Anyone else annoyed when someone saying 'get a job'

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Before COVID it was still hard to find a job but now it has become more difficult.

Recently, Dispatches showed a programme where there were 947 applications for a waiter role at a Manchester role and the pay was around minimum wage. And the person who got that job was later told they could not be hired due to the new lockdown restrictions.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/minimum-wage-restaurant-job-receives-947-applications/02/11/

Unemployment is likely to rise and could reach double figures in 2021. Getting a job is not as easy it was in the past where you could walk in and get hired. Now you have things such as: online applications, Skype interviews, Face to Face interviews, Online tests etc...

I have just recruited for a job that in theory anyone could learn to do but in reality relevant experience is helpful especially in being shortlisted. We had over 250 applicants and wanted to interview 10 of them. 4 had already got other jobs by the time we had done our shortlisting.

There are jobs out there but I guess it is those people that have the experience and can write a convincing application that will be getting them.

I feel really wary of the 'anyone can do care work' mentality. Not everyone can. I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to wash an elderly person who had soiled themselves without retching, and they deserve better than that. There is an element of vocation and care which I don't think should be glossed over.

@MustardMitt

I feel really wary of the 'anyone can do care work' mentality. Not everyone can. I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to wash an elderly person who had soiled themselves without retching, and they deserve better than that. There is an element of vocation and care which I don't think should be glossed over.

A close friend had a brain injury and lives in a care facility, he has sadly been ‘cared’ for by the ‘anyoe can do care work’ brigade.

I saw someone babbling on about "just get a job" on a local page. They went on to suggest lorry driving, unloading cargo at the docks and construction site labouring, which are apparently all recruiting. I'm curious how many of these would seriously employ (or be remotely suitable for) a single mum with young children or an older person with no experience in these areas. People don't think before spouting their prejudices.

Getting a job is not as easy
No it isn't, but too many associate not easy with not possible.

Not easy means that it will take longer and require more effort, but it isn't a licence for not bothering because it's hard.

And yet we have farmers closing fields full of produce that's going to waste because theres no one to pick it now "all those Europeans coming over here to steal our jobs" cant travel. Maybe it's just the good jobs that get loads of applicants?
But I'd hire someone who said "I've even picking broccoli for the past two years because I didn't get any other jobs I applied for" over someone who said "I've been on benefits for the past two years because I couldn't get a job". If you're out of work, you're less employable than someone that's in work, no matter what that work may be.

I looked into this when I was furloughed but there weren't any remotely nearby.
I do think (as with a lot if things) there is an element of luck, although all the people on here who got a job within 2 hours/days of being made redundant will probably insist it was due to their attitude and tenacity.
Example - OPs post was a low paying job with over 900 candidates. Later on another PP says they had a fairly low paid admin job advertised with 9 candidates applying. So to get the 2nd one there would be a certain element of luck as there is far less competition. Of course you need tenacity and a positive attitude but sometimes luck does play a part. I've only had 3 jobs - 2 were due to being in the right place at the right time!

I've been looking for a finance role for the last month. There's very little out there to even apply for!

Think it depends on the area. Round by me there are lots of jobs. My employer must have advertised at least 30 since lockdown. Other areas there is absolutely nothing. Not a good time at all x

Not BU if the person is trying hard; trying to get a job atm must be a nightmare!
BU, if the person isn't trying or being too selective; trying to get a job atm is a nightmare and unfortunately being picky isn't really an option for most.

@Waxonwaxoff0

And no one enjoys being on benefits, I was on them and it was shit.

Because you didn't enjoy being on benefits doesn't mean that others don't.....!!!!

Always plenty of jobs in social care

I must be a mighty wizard then - all these jobs then when ever I had to apply for jobs - FOOF! they disappeared!

That and some bizarre changes to geography - who'd have thought Kent was in the Midlands?

If people are overwhelmed by all the jobs to apply for - simply summon me and OPPA DISMISS JOBS!

It's a bit of a shit superpower to be honest.

I was made redundant during the first lockdown and knew if I didn't find another job quickly it would be almost impossible at 53.
I took the first job I was offered 6 weeks after my redundancy. It's not my ideal role and it's only part time but it's currently better
Than nothing

Part time cleaner role where I work, over 600 people applied for what is a 7 hour role. Pre-covid, apparently it used to get about 150 people. It's worrying.

There a re loads of jobs around but they are not all the sort of jobs everyone wants. BUT if you are out of work and struggling, its gotta be better to take any sort of work than sit around, visiting the dole office and collecting your benefit. I have so much respect for people who take any work to keep themselves and their families fed and clothed. So hard to stack shelves when you have been in management all your life but hey, they've got their self respect. No dossing at home for them. there are plenty of jobs in my industry but some people get more on benefits, so can't be bothered to work.

I think it depends where you are in the country and which area of employment you are looking at.

There are lots of care/health/logistics/procurement/factory/supermarket/farm work but many don't want this as it's "too hard" or consider it beneath them.

Back in the day people were also prepared to travel great distances to work or even move areas but this is not the case now.

I'm not saying that's the case across the board but there's a real element of this pandemic or not and the same people complain about immigration so what can you do?

I don’t buy this stuff of people being too picky. If there are more unemployed than there are positions, those who don’t get the jobs will remain unemployed. That number is only going to go up, thanks to this pandemic. Some people have their skills in areas that have been really badly hit and that’s not their fault. Some compassion wouldn’t go amiss here.

Back in the day people were also prepared to travel great distances to work or even move areas but this is not the case now.

I can understand this if people were getting a promotion or a ft job but it's a big upheaval not only to move , but if a partner is working, is their commute still possible, or taking kids out of school....for a part time/zero hours/minimum wage job?

My son could write a book on ‘how to get fired and piss off your parents’. I should be proud because he has Asperger, but went to uni to do degree in French and Italian, then holds a PSV licence and now an HGV licence. But gets fired on average every 6 weeks. But we’ll done him for continuing to apply (and get) jobs. I’d love to know what he says at interview to get over the ‘what happened last time’ question. He got sacked from delivery driver for Ocado on Friday (backed into a plant pot, but no damage to van, but customer complained and as he was still on probation he got sacked) but starts new job on Monday.
So jobs are there. But I’m dammed if I can find them!

@Nottherealslimshady I know that is terrible, but my daughter applied to be a fruit/vegetable picker back at the beginning of the summer, was told she'd be contacted, was offered a job in Perth (Scotland) we live in Kent, and nothing since.

She was even prepared to do the Perth job until we realised it was very short term and would cost us more to get her there than she would actually earn.

The farmers might have the fields of produce but they don't seem interested in employing British workers.

She's applied for every job she can, and not even had one acknowledgement. My daughter has Asperger Syndrome and this is making her very depressed as she thinks she is at fault.

Meeoow!

@AmberAndAlexsMum honestly if she's putting it on her applications then it may well be. It's a massive spectrum and people are more aware of those that are less easy for neurotypicals to work with. If she takes it off then during an interview describe it as one of her strengths, aspergers come with good and bad traits, really push the good.

@Theoldwrinkley

My son could write a book on ‘how to get fired and piss off your parents’. I should be proud because he has Asperger, but went to uni to do degree in French and Italian, then holds a PSV licence and now an HGV licence. But gets fired on average every 6 weeks. But we’ll done him for continuing to apply (and get) jobs. I’d love to know what he says at interview to get over the ‘what happened last time’ question. He got sacked from delivery driver for Ocado on Friday (backed into a plant pot, but no damage to van, but customer complained and as he was still on probation he got sacked) but starts new job on Monday. So jobs are there. But I’m dammed if I can find them!

That seems harsh that he got sacked by Ocado for that. Ocado would have been insured and would have replaced the plant pot. I do this job for another supermarket and unfortunately accidents do happen (quite often!)

Warehouse jobs are crying out for people as are Royal Mail. My nephew who is 24 has gone through 3 jobs in the last 4 months. The loss of these jobs is down to his own silly fault - oversleeping, not liking it etc but the jobs are out there

Most Royal Mail jobs are agency zero hour contracts. You never know what shifts you will be offered in a week so it isn't suitable for people with caring responsibility.

The person complaining that people won't move for work- didn't you read the poster higher up in the thread who mentioned binning any CV from people out of area? Generally unless it's a graduate or senior role companies don't recruit out of area.