Anyone else annoyed when someone saying 'get a job'

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Before COVID it was still hard to find a job but now it has become more difficult.

Recently, Dispatches showed a programme where there were 947 applications for a waiter role at a Manchester role and the pay was around minimum wage. And the person who got that job was later told they could not be hired due to the new lockdown restrictions.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/minimum-wage-restaurant-job-receives-947-applications/02/11/

Unemployment is likely to rise and could reach double figures in 2021. Getting a job is not as easy it was in the past where you could walk in and get hired. Now you have things such as: online applications, Skype interviews, Face to Face interviews, Online tests etc...

@mrsbyers

There are loads of seasonal opportunities locally along with longer term factory / unskilled work yet still high rates of unemployment in pockets - it must be that a lot of people want to live on benefits maybe ?

What utter cobblers.

he just always fancied moving to Cornwall

fair enough!

Not many jobs around here. DH has found one after 14 weeks of applying for anything going after being made redundant.

It's just above NMW, it's working 10 hours day / night shift pattern, it's seasonal, conditions are dire, it's basically shit. But it's work for now. It's a far cry from his previous, very skilled job.
We feel the employer is taking the p* but really, we have no choice.

Benefits aren't a holy grail if you have a mortgage.

As for me, I am looking, as well after loosing my job. Somehow, it has to fit around DH because of the DC. We can't afford childcare, even if it's topped up.

That's the reality.

We are not lazy or work shy... we always have worked. We just don't have the right skills for the jobs currently available...

@Lowkeevslucille Cambridgeshire, near a station with connections to kings cross. 9 applications, 1 didn't respond when contacted, 1 didn't turn up to interview. Degree not required, advertised externally through a university and several agency sites. We didn't get wtf happened!

Plenty of people are prepared to apply for 'unskilled' jobs, but those who have had more 'skilled' ones (quotes because many of these roles do need skill!) will be rejected as overqualified!

@lemmywinks84

Does this depend on region? We had fuck all applicants for an admin assistant for 21k last month in my team. 9 applied. South east 55 mins from London.

Where did you advertise?

[quote lemmywinks84]@Lowkeevslucille Cambridgeshire, near a station with connections to kings cross. 9 applications, 1 didn't respond when contacted, 1 didn't turn up to interview. Degree not required, advertised externally through a university and several agency sites. We didn't get wtf happened! [/quote]
To be fair, a good agency should only give you half a dozen cvs maximum, but very good ones. You pay them to do the work, not to waste your time with dozens of irrelevant cvs.

But if you had asked for more, it's a strangely low number!

@Echobelly

Plenty of people are prepared to apply for 'unskilled' jobs, but those who have had more 'skilled' ones (quotes because many of these roles do need skill!) will be rejected as overqualified!

only if they only list their (irrelevant) skills and experience. You can be "over qualified" but sell yourself to make yourself interesting for the employer.

Don't lie, but make yourself relevant. It IS hard to know if cover letter are even read, sometimes they aren't, but you should try to squeeze enough info in your CV.

Yeah my friend is a marketing manager for many years - lost job due to Covid - she was working for a large travel agency - once ski season was cancelled she was let go

She’s applying for everything - retail & hospitality won’t even entertain her applications - she has no experience in these industries since she was a student 15 years ago!

Marketing jobs - interviews are coming her way only in the last few weeks - they are 3 stages long - expect a lot of projects to be completed in advance of each interview so it is a lot of work - but she’s doing it all!

All these interviews are jobs much lower level than her last job - and 2 have already said she’s overqualified and decided to go with someone else - they said they felt she would leave quickly to a marketing manager role and they don’t think there will be room to progress at their company!

She has been asked to a stage 4 of an interview for another company and awaiting outcome of another one

All in all it is not going well and it’s not as simple as saying just get a job.

there was a job as a receptionist going in my workplace over the summer.
730 (I think) applications. For a shitty, low paid job.
Of course people with experience are at an advantage. Why would you bother to train a 19 year old who has never worked on a desk, when you can have an older person who has extensive reception experience and needs less training and supervision?

DH was made redundantly in August at 58. He’s applied for a lot of jobs since, no offers. He’s applied for roles in his previous field at the same level & been interviewed but younger, degree holders were appointed or the job was withdrawn. He’s also applied for a lot of more junior roles, some much more junior, barely NMW and hasn’t even had an answer for the vast majority.

His pensions don’t kick in for a long while yet, JSA is peanuts and doesn’t last long, it’s not looking good. Thankfully I’m still working.

YANBU OP.

I’ve shared this before, but husband was made redundant when youngest was still a baby - luckily my salary is enough to support us, but the boys are 9 and 11 now and he needs a job! He is SO bored and that makes him lazy (it makes me lazy too, not a judgment). He has applied for so many job, not even got as close as an interview. His CV is fine, I can only assume because he’s applying for zero hour type stuff they’d rather hire an 18 year old for minimum wage which is obviously less than for a nearly 40 year old.

@wheresmymojo he’s had 4 interviews in total, all in finance. One has frozen recruitment, the other 3 were thanks but no thanks. It’s soul destroying. Luckily I earn sufficiently to pay the bills but his self esteem is through the floor.

I'm finding that there address very few full time o permanent jobs out there's, I an just about to start my second short term contract since being made redundant in April. I've had to take a massive pay cut, but I'm working and just about covering the bills although there's is nothing spare.
What I am finding is that the pay for most jobs seems to have dropped drastically, employees seem to want massively more from people plus several years experience but only want to pay entry level salaries. I also have a zero hours contract with the post office and am picking up a few shifts a month to top up my pay. I certainly didn't expect to be working 2 jobs again at my age, but needs must!

@mrsbyers

There are loads of seasonal opportunities locally along with longer term factory / unskilled work yet still high rates of unemployment in pockets - it must be that a lot of people want to live on benefits maybe ?

There might be where you live, but that is not representative of everywhere. Where do you get off being so judgemental?

If someone is on out of work benefits they are required to apply for almost any job going. Most will not be suitable for the positions but they can tick the relevant box for the DWP. This probably explains why a previous poster referred to receiving applications from people who had apparently not made any effort to show why they might be suitable for the job and who were obviously totally unqualified.

I am having to go back into the job market having not worked for an employer for 25 years. I am dreading it and am trying to get voluntary positions to build up my employability.

I am a single parent and have a child with SN and no child care available so am badly restricted in what I can do. Although mentally I feel young I am not and although date of birth is not something which goes on a CV these days it doesn't take a genius to work out how old someone is by looking at their experience.

I try to be positive and am doing online courses for IT and school accounts systems but frankly I am very pessimistic.

I manage a care home and have had adverts out for a variety of roles for a few months. We pay above minimum wage. Loads of people apply but many don't respond to calls and emails for interviews and many who do don't show up. I think people think they're too good to work in a care home.

feellikeanalien
go for temping agencies too!

But be very clear on what you can and can't do, in terms of hours...

if someone is on out of work benefits they are required to apply for almost any job going. Most will not be suitable for the positions but they can tick the relevant box for the DWP

The job seeker commitment (having to agree to apply for x jobs a week) was suspended in April and I don’t think it’s been brought back in yet.

It depends on the industry I think. I’m in logistics and still getting texts every day offering temp to perm HGV jobs from agencies although I haven’t been full time driving for a good while. Some shit pay but many well over the national average. Local Biffa site are desperate for drivers and the full time guys on afternoon shift are on around £40k when bonuses are included.

@LordLancington

It depends on the industry I think. I’m in logistics and still getting texts every day offering temp to perm HGV jobs from agencies although I haven’t been full time driving for a good while. Some shit pay but many well over the national average. Local Biffa site are desperate for drivers and the full time guys on afternoon shift are on around £40k when bonuses are included.

Driving a truck is around min wage? Wtf

Driving a truck is around min wage? Wtf

£40k isn’t minimum wage!

It’s a weird sector. You’ve got artic drivers on close to minimum wage doing 60 hour weeks and then you’ve got crane drivers on £55k (top ones on much more). Some of the onsite guys and highways agency drivers are on £200 a day.

I think @azzizia misread the national average part @LordLancington. At least I hope so

I did read the national average incorrectly @LordLancington
How much would one expect to earn as a lorry driver?

One of our drivers fancies a change and keeps applying for jobs. It seems like he’s turning down an offer almost every week. Last week it was a quarry company (tipper truck) offering around £35k for basic hours and 1.5x hourly rate for overtime. He declined as he didn’t fancy working every other Sat morning.