Anyone else annoyed when someone saying 'get a job'

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Before COVID it was still hard to find a job but now it has become more difficult.

Recently, Dispatches showed a programme where there were 947 applications for a waiter role at a Manchester role and the pay was around minimum wage. And the person who got that job was later told they could not be hired due to the new lockdown restrictions.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/minimum-wage-restaurant-job-receives-947-applications/02/11/

Unemployment is likely to rise and could reach double figures in 2021. Getting a job is not as easy it was in the past where you could walk in and get hired. Now you have things such as: online applications, Skype interviews, Face to Face interviews, Online tests etc...

@mrsbyers

There are loads of seasonal opportunities locally along with longer term factory / unskilled work yet still high rates of unemployment in pockets - it must be that a lot of people want to live on benefits maybe ?

Really??? I've been made redundant from a factory (along with 400 others), and that site is now closed. Sainsbury's and Argos are making thousands redundant, the very well known holiday firm near me has cut it's cleaning and housekeeping staff, the bars and restaurants are closing so that's some more out of work...I could go on. I don't know which world you are living in but it's clearly not the real one.

@Tittiana that is a big problem especially for young people how are they supposed to get experience if many employers want 3-4 years experience for a job paying £18,000 a year? I luckily have been in work for the last few years but when I see some job adverts I am shocked. For example, asking 3 years admin experience for a basic admin role. Employers have a lot of applications and now are using things such as 3-4 years experience, graduate etc to reduce the pool of applicants they consider.

There are a lot of jobs that people wont do, those are the jobs that are still desperate for people. My husband was an unskilled immigrant to the UK he came over on a spousal visa with a third world education. Within 6 weeks of being in the UK he had a fulltime job working as a picker in a recycling factory. The job involved hand sorting through recycling they had to sort through a certain amount of waste every hour or the got fired. It was hardwork and he had no transport other than a bike so had to cycle over an hour each way every day, due to his visa he was not able to claim any benefits at all so he had no choice but to take whatever job he could. He has progressed up in the company but even now in the midst of huge unemployment no-one who works outside of the offices are British

@Nottherealslimshady

And yet we have farmers closing fields full of produce that's going to waste because theres no one to pick it now "all those Europeans coming over here to steal our jobs" cant travel. Maybe it's just the good jobs that get loads of applicants? But I'd hire someone who said "I've even picking broccoli for the past two years because I didn't get any other jobs I applied for" over someone who said "I've been on benefits for the past two years because I couldn't get a job". If you're out of work, you're less employable than someone that's in work, no matter what that work may be.

Here we go...

That's interesting NameChange84. Round my way it's exceptionally difficult to find work. I know several people who are desperately seeking.
I'm self-employed, and just about managing to scrape a living again, for which I'm grateful. Otherwise, it'd be an exceptionally worrying time and place to be...

Unemployment is predicted to be 13.2% next year. That’s 4 million people. There are simply not the jobs. It’ll get worse with increasing automation.

Just to clarify, I am not saying people should not apply to jobs because they will get rejected.

Of course you have to try hard to get a job e.g. take time to do applications and tailor your CV/Cover letter. I am saying that most people are trying their best but are still struggling to find work. Of course it depends on where you live as well. Some cities are better for finding work than others.

My partner was made redundant on day one of lockdown, hes an actuary, so a sector with jobs available and a sector that are extremely busy at the moment. Despite this companies just weren’t hiring, it took him just over three months to get a job with another company.

He did apply for other jobs to try and get any work before he gained another actuary role, but he has a physical disability so things like shop work etc are things he just can’t do. Things he can do (essentially just computer and phone work) were either shut due to lockdown, or only hiring people with previous experience. Twice he had interviews arranged over zoom and the interviewers just didn’t bother to attend the interview and didn’t bother contacting my partner to cancel.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.retailsector.co.uk/50381-robots-could-take-half-a-million-uk-retail-jobs-within-the-next-five-years/amp/

Half a million jobs could be automated in the next five years.

Not all the jobs that need filling are available within easy and cheap daily commute for the people who need them. Moving away from friends and family for a minimum wage job can be very daunting , you lose your support network

There is a big difference between "getting a job" and "getting the job".

There were always hindreds of CVs for positions. Unemployment wasn't high, though obviously it will be higher now.
Warehouses around here are always advertising jobs for above minimum wage. But for example banks, not so much.

I’ve just left a career in dental nursing after being on maternity leave, and just got a full time job as tech support working from home. I start Monday.

I’ve never had an issue finding or getting a job, I think it must be area based because I never found it difficult or my county sparse of jobs. There are plenty. I can imagine London and similar large cities are finding it tough though.

I’m an industrial recruiter and can’t fill vacancies at the moment. Applications are down 60% on this time last year 🤷‍♀️

I am going to try putting this in my cover letters as why I am the perfect fit for the job "The country believes you should get me the job". Or how would you word it?

@PriceEmUp could you PM me the details if they hire anywhere in the UK?

I think there are layers to this shitty situation..

1. If you have children you need certain hours and certain wages and cant do last minute cover which arsehole employers seem to expect.

1. Agism, even between choosing an 18 year old vs a 27 ones.

1. Zero hour contracts , very long probations and temp contracts

1. Wanting experienced candidate but nobody willing to give experience!!

1. Highly qualified candidates applying to jobs they are more than capable of doing. I get they must be forced to do this but arsehole employer then gets big headed and more picky. Huge expectations for shitty returns and people desperate enough and battered by rejections that they lower their prospects for such jobs for the sake of having some money.

1. Largely mothers being penalised for taking time out to bring up family and then work and childcare provisions so unfruendly, hostile even, making it all a million times harder to 'just get a job'.

The poster smugly saying oh its about attitude look at my dd she got a job:

1. Your dd doesnt have children or 'real life' costs living with you

And 2. Your dd is probably young so employers far more likely to choose her and make allowances for lack of expeeience

There’s lots of problems at the moment when looking for a job-
If you go downwards then you are competing against people who have actually been doing similar jobs so have experience that is relevant no-one cares that you are a whizz at excel when all they want you to do is stack shelves plus they are going to employ the person who’s career is retail rather than someone who’s career is something else so likely to bigger off the minute they get a better job.

Having said that, I’ve been applying for lots of jobs as have gone back from furlough ok reduced hours as exhibiton and events industry is still pretty much shut down. Was offered a job that wa similar to what I do now and possibly even a slight step up but on reflection I turned it down for various reasons. I have also managed to get a seasonal job stacking shelves in Tesco a couple of night shifts a week and am also currently in the selection process for a civil service job (did online test and application, have had interview and just waiting to see if got through to next stage)

I have however never heard from dominos to do delivery driving, and lots of other admin type jobs I applied for.

I agree. I was made redundant and my MIL (who has worked for the same supermarket for nearly 20 yrs) couldn't believe the process for applying for a job at a supermarket now. IME supermarkets are some of the toughest jobs to get at the moment. I've been lucky to now get a new job in the same sector I was in previously but at a significant salary drop.

Most people could get a job in care tomorrow if they wanted .

Nottherealslimlady re farm work - I don't blame you for thinking that at all, as It's a tale we're frequently told. But it's not the reality at all. During the summer, I knew of many people who tried & tried to get fruit picking work, in response to the government pleas to 'Pick for Britain'. They were persistently told, by every farm, that there was no work, and that they (the farms) had been inundated with applications. It was so weird how different the reality was from the myth. Nobody could make sense of it. I think many people would love to do healthy outdoor work. It's often just not there, and/or would require long stays away from home, which would be impossible for many people. But, as I say, I don't blame you at all for thinking that...

@cardswapping absolutely! Literally anywhere in the uk? Any preferences on what you would or wouldn’t do?

YANBU

I have been applying for jobs where I meet the person specification yet still cant get an interview under guaranteed interview scheme (I have a disability). It isn't easy and I suspect is only going to get harder

DS was able to get a supermarket picking job within an hour of applying right at the start of the first lockdown.

But:

• he has no commitments so could take the hours offered (3am starts)
• DH already works there and was able to vouch for him
• he is young, fit and able to take on a physical job
• he was only doing bits and pieces helping out his GM with gardening work so the £800/month he is earning now feels like a fortune

I have been applying since March. Jobs of the level I am qualified for and lots of others that pay less than will cover my bills. ( I was self employed, not entitled to any assistance, not had an income in seven months).
I have applied for well over 100 jobs, most you never any response, most thanks but no thanks sent on a Friday afternoon - thanks for that
It is soul destroying but you have to keep going, give up is not an option.
FU to anyone who that most of us are not trying!

@WanderingFruitWonderer

Nottherealslimlady re farm work - I don't blame you for thinking that at all, as It's a tale we're frequently told. But it's not the reality at all. During the summer, I knew of many people who tried & tried to get fruit picking work, in response to the government pleas to 'Pick for Britain'. They were persistently told, by every farm, that there was no work, and that they (the farms) had been inundated with applications. It was so weird how different the reality was from the myth. Nobody could make sense of it. I think many people would love to do healthy outdoor work. It's often just not there, and/or would require long stays away from home, which would be impossible for many people. But, as I say, I don't blame you at all for thinking that...

I'm pretty sure the Pick for Britain was a story concocted by daily mail reader types to bash the unemployed or benefits claimants. Judging by the crap i saw on Facebook over summer it worked.

One of the people I know who posted about it didn't have a response to my (many) challenges to why it wasn't necessarily a gopd idea because she clearly hadn't thought it through and was of the attitude demonstrated on this thread (just get a job, it's not difficult)