Anyone else annoyed when someone saying 'get a job'

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Before COVID it was still hard to find a job but now it has become more difficult.

Recently, Dispatches showed a programme where there were 947 applications for a waiter role at a Manchester role and the pay was around minimum wage. And the person who got that job was later told they could not be hired due to the new lockdown restrictions.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/minimum-wage-restaurant-job-receives-947-applications/02/11/

Unemployment is likely to rise and could reach double figures in 2021. Getting a job is not as easy it was in the past where you could walk in and get hired. Now you have things such as: online applications, Skype interviews, Face to Face interviews, Online tests etc...

I don't think it's quite as simple as 'get a job'. A lot depends on area - if you are in a city/large town with lots of factories/warehouses etc. It might be easier. Rural Devon is probably a different matter.

People's individual circumstances also matter, if someone has caring responsibilities, they may genuinely not be able to take a job which requires very early starts/late finishes etc.

There are jobs which the vast majority of people could do e.g. working in a warehouse is something most people could be trained to do and could carry out.

Other jobs aren't like that. My mum works in a nursing home. She has done nursing/care all her life. She enjoys it and is bloody good at it. She says that sometimes people apply or even start jobs and they are simply not cut out for it. Not their fault, it's not something everyone can do.

I am a teacher of a shortage subject in a good school. Sometimes when we advertise we don't get any applicants! When we do get applicants we are not inundated by any stretch. So, if someone is good they are likely to get a job fairly easily. Yet the PE dept had 94 good applications for the last job they advertised. Any one of them could have done the job but obviously many were disappointed.

It's competitive and depending on your skills, experience and qualifications, you'll find it more difficult. It also depends on what work you're prepared to do.

My DD18 has managed to get 3 part time jobs during this pandemic and she started university this year. 1 job is ad hoc and she fits it all in around her degree.

She's very tenacious and hard working. My Dsis got a short term contract during lockdown, which has ended and now has another one.

I know a few people who have been successful at getting work.

My organisation are making redundancies, but they're also recruiting as well.

I know there are so many applicants for jobs at the moment and recruiters can be fussy....as they have their pick of candidates.

How much would one expect to earn as a lorry driver?

It’s extremely variable. Curtainsider deliveries of pallets is low paid (£10.50 an hour for 10.5 hour days). However, if you get your CSCS card to work on construction sites (costs about £180 and a day in a classroom) you can earn £200 a day in the right job.

Supermarket arctic drivers are on up to £45k for the big supermarkets but you’d usually need two years experience. The best jobs usually involve more than just driving - mobile cranes, car transporters, water trucks for Severn Trent etc.

There’s a lot you can do but it’s not linear progression like office work. Crane drivers who drive the ones which can lift 1200 tons can be on £85k and will sometimes wait around for a day or two until the conditions are calm enough to do a ten minute lift. But obviously if they drop hundreds of tonnes they could kill people and destroy whole buildings etc.

I convinced two of my driver’s mates to get their HGV licenses when I was a driver - one got his paid for by the employer upon contractual agreement so stay for I think it was 1.5 or 2 years. Both guys in early 20s with zero qualifications and on close to NMW. They immediately jumped up to £35k which is good for their age and certainly compared to the prospects they’d have had elsewhere.

@LordLancington

I convinced two of my driver’s mates to get their HGV licenses when I was a driver - one got his paid for by the employer upon contractual agreement so stay for I think it was 1.5 or 2 years. Both guys in early 20s with zero qualifications and on close to NMW. They immediately jumped up to £35k which is good for their age and certainly compared to the prospects they’d have had elsewhere.

Thanks for all the replies.

I once saw a lady who looked like a grandma driving a truck down a motorway..... might be a good career.

I agree with PP who said depends on the job, my school cannot get people to work as cleaners. 3 hours a day, not great in terms of school hours as its after school, but we are still understaffed.

I have applied for about 60 jobs after loosing my job due to covid a couple i have had a no from the rest nothing
Currently doing some temping work as thats all i have been able to get
Ds1 went for seasonal worker at a non essential shop but then latest lockdown happened and again he has heard nothing now
It is def not easy , none of the agencys here have much at all wither and hundreds are going for same jobs and pay has gone down also

@cherrypavalova your daughter was lucky as round here no jobs can be applied for over the phone all pretty much advertised on online job sites which you have to apply for
I have applied for loads of different types of job and not been successfull at all yet , not even secured an interview .
I have had my cv looked at incase something was a miss , the agencies I am registered with said that at any other time i could have a choice of jobs but nothing t moment
Im also happy to work full or part time so pretty flexible but all i have is a few weeks temp work

I once saw a lady who looked like a grandma driving a truck down a motorway..... might be a good career.

I watched a woman backing a 65ft arctic into an incredibly tight gate the other day! Only inches to spare. Had loads of impatient cars waiting and she looked cool as a cucumber. What I like is that, despite it no doubt being a blokey environment, all that essentially matters is that you can drive well and obv not be aggro on the road.

I’ve actually seen much more diversity than when I was in my office job tbh. The team I manage includes two British Jamaicans, a Hungarian, a Sikh, and several Muslims. They’re all spot on but I’d never have encountered them in the office as they don’t all speak the queens English.

You have to pass a medical to be a hgv driver, so it isn't something everyone can do. The test isn't easy either.

Well part of the problem is that people think that good honest work like care work is " hell jobs". I have done care work and it is not a " hell job"...it is very rewarding but pays very little.
Any job where we have to get our hands dirty is now regarded as" hell work."

@mrsbyers come to where i live and find me one then
My dh works so we get hardly any help and my jsa of £70 odd quid stops as i was only entitled to contributory based which stops after 6 months
I have applied foe various jobs more than 60 , i can only apply to those that come up that im either qualified to do or capable
I am now doing a couple weeks temping but thats all i got
Last week i applied for another 6 jobs , i have heard nothing and am unlikely too as that seems the norm
At the moment
Never been out of work for over 30 years

I have also done cleaning..now training for NHS which also requires one to get ones hands dirty but seems like we'd now all rather sit behind a desk.

@malificent7 not everyone has the ability to do care work though for various reasons

You have to pass a medical to be a hgv driver, so it isn't something everyone can do. The test isn't easy either.

You want to see the state of some of our drivers! 😂

I’m certainly not suggesting people become truckers as it’s a marmite job (which I loved) but more pointing out how some sectors still need more labour.

Having just recruited a member of staff, for a minimum wage part time job that received over 50 applications, I was pretty amazed how many people read the job advert to begin with. Only 12 applied correctly, and we're talking a CV and email, not rocket science, and out of those, only six did not guess that I was recruiting for something I really wasn't. I did wonder if people actually wanted the job 🤷

@Ultimatecougar

You have to pass a medical to be a hgv driver, so it isn't something everyone can do. The test isn't easy either.

Everything is something not everyone can do...

@rwalker

Most people could get a job in care tomorrow if they wanted .

That would have been the case before Covid but in my large city there's much fewer vacancies advertised on Indeed for care work than there were last year.

We recently recruited for an admin officer (£20k) in my civil service department and got around 80 applicants. I’ve recruited for other more niche posts in different locations and only got a handful of people applying.

The applications this time round were generally of a very high standard, experienced adminstrators, people with good degrees etc. Candidates with no office experience and poor qualifications have much less chance of employment. Many people cannot spell and have poor grammar and I feel sorry for these people when they apply. In the competency based questions they simply cannot write coherently. What happens to these applicants? Do they end up finding jobs?

It’s generally a good place to work and more desirable than many organisations in the small city I live in but I wouldn’t say that the role itself is particularly interesting but the T&Cs are better than some.

There’s a recruitment freeze on curently and around 40 civil service posts are going. Hopefully most of the displaced people can move into other internal roles. I think some of the jobs will be outsourced to constractors so I suppose they’ll be TUPEd across.

DWP is recruiting hundreds of work coaches though to get people into non-existent jobs!

@Sobeyondthehills
rwalker
Most people could get a job in care tomorrow if they wanted .
I really hate this, some people are really not suited to care work, I did it for 3 days as a temp job and couldn't cope with it.

Its not like you are sitting there drinking coffee with Captain Tom

I know and done it myself and soon as I could left because it didn't like it. But would do it again because if you need a job you need a job if like it or no doesn't come into it .

@rwalker

Its not about liking it or not, its about being capable to do it. I am not capable of doing care work, and I personally I find it very disrespectful to throw around the term likes its all cake and cookies.

Just like I couldn't be a nursery teacher, I couldn't be a care worker and they have my upmost respect for doing a job, that not many could do for the pay that they do it for.

@Sobeyondthehills
@rwalker
Its not about liking it or not, its about being capable to do it. I am not capable of doing care work, and I personally I find it very disrespectful to throw around the term likes its all cake and cookies.

There are many types of care jobs it not all wiping arses and personal care .Some are background support and welfare checks to enable people to have a good quality of life be safe and live independently .

@DenimDrift

i'm a retail manager and currently recruiting

retail experience is vital ....especially in this climate. Don't care if candidates have degrees in rocket science.....you would need a few years in recent retail under your belt

retail is no longer the 'shit' job it used to be seen as

I second this... I'm on £13 and hour.. hardly shit for putting stock on shelves.

I think it depends what part of the country your in and whether there is a demand for jobs! I've never had a problem getting a job personally but I know others that do but they don't give up and do get one in the end.

It is tough as employers have their pick at the minute.

That being said, I have a hairdresser friend with his own business. On hearing about the upcoming lockdown on the Saturday pm, he immediately publicised on FB and via email that from the Sunday, when usually closed, through to Wednesday when they obviously had to close, he would be open 7am - 10pm to meet demand. By the Friday he had also managed to get a temporary job delivering parcels for the next month. If you are not picky and averse to hard work there are jobs out there.

@rwalker

I get that its not all that, but I am basing my opinion on the jobs available in my area.

And not everyone can do those, care does cover alot of things, lets not throw it around as though everyone can do it though.

Retail covers a shit ton of roles as well, use to be considered a job anyone can get and its just not that easy and its a sector I know a large amount about, unlike care, which like I said I managed 3 days in