Anyone else annoyed when someone saying 'get a job'

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Before COVID it was still hard to find a job but now it has become more difficult.

Recently, Dispatches showed a programme where there were 947 applications for a waiter role at a Manchester role and the pay was around minimum wage. And the person who got that job was later told they could not be hired due to the new lockdown restrictions.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/minimum-wage-restaurant-job-receives-947-applications/02/11/

Unemployment is likely to rise and could reach double figures in 2021. Getting a job is not as easy it was in the past where you could walk in and get hired. Now you have things such as: online applications, Skype interviews, Face to Face interviews, Online tests etc...

DP was laid off 3 weeks ago, he has applied for any job going,
The only problem he has is that he can't drive, our local cafe had over 300 applications for one job, so that is what he is up against.

I think the vast majority of people want to work and I believe it is really difficult finding a job/changing jobs at the moment unless in some sought after careers.

I think people who say 'get a job' perhaps have not been in the same position, low number of jobs and high number of applicants so ignorance drives the statement.

Years ago when I left school it was easy to walk out of one job and into another. It is much harder now and also the rise in 0 hour contracts, small hour contracts but they want massive flexibility etc makes it really difficult. When I first entered the job market it was full time or set hours and plenty of jobs on offer.

I sympathise with anyone struggling to find work at present.

I can give you a view from the over side...

Yes, we get "hundreds" of applications.

AT LEAST half are not even for the right location. If you apply for a job in Manchester but give me an address in Truro, your CV goes straight in the bin. You have to be pretty senior AND clear about your relocation for any employer considering offering you an interview, let alone a job on the other side of the country.
Even if most interviews have been done remotely since March.

AT LEAST 3/4 send a generic irrelevant CV and either don't bother doing a cover letter, read the spec, or even better make completely unrealistic requests. If you apply for a weekend job but state you won't work Saturdays, that won't get you far ..
Basically people apply to a job randomly without even reading the job description, and it shows.

Then, of all the candidates you offer an interview to, maybe half will mess you around, not turn up.

I could carry on, but basically when you read there are hundreds of application, it never means there are hundreds of candidates.

@rwalker

Most people could get a job in care tomorrow if they wanted .

I really hate this, some people are really not suited to care work, I did it for 3 days as a temp job and couldn't cope with it.

Its not like you are sitting there drinking coffee with Captain Tom

Does this depend on region? We had fuck all applicants for an admin assistant for 21k last month in my team. 9 applied. South east 55 mins from London.

@lemmywinks84

Does this depend on region? We had fuck all applicants for an admin assistant for 21k last month in my team. 9 applied. South east 55 mins from London.

where did you advertise! That sort of jobs tend to attract hundreds, included half of "interested by part-time around the children"

My friend is an NHS admin manager. Had a part time band 2 clerical vacancy (£18k) and over 200 applicants. Most were very good - secretaries, PAs, office managers, HR officers, project managers who had earned much more in their previous roles but had been made redundant and needed a job. Even a £9k pro rota job.

SE here. DH got 3 offers of delivery driver work from the main supermarkets.Offered 16 hours but dies 45 most weeks as short staffed.
I got a second job in September after a single phone call to an Indeed job vacancy. Bonus being that now I have a month on furlough from the second job.
Recession is actually a great time to start up a business and make the most of the big boys being forced to scale down. If only I had a good business idea.

My friend is recently separated from her dh having been a sahm with a 4 hours a week job for 10 years. She has no degree but applied for 3 jobs and was offered all three. People always say it’s hard to get a job and I would imagine it is right now but I know 5 people who’ve all started new jobs since April.

I know several people who applied for all the "numerous" jobs in supermarkets in March and April, both shop floor jobs and delivery driving. They were turned down left, right and centre. I'm sure supermarkets would prefer to employ less educated people who are less likely to speak up if they're being treated badly. Yeah yeah, someone will come along in a minute and tell me they got a supermarket job with a PhD and management experience - you're an anomoly. Most low/minimum wage employers don't want to employ highly skilled people.

@HammerToFall

I decided to go back to work after ten years in March when dh was furloughed. Decided on the Monday morning had a job by 2.30. But I am nhs admin trained and they were very very short. Best thing I ever did. Am now working weekends, nights and loads of shifts on all the maternity wards

How would be the best way to get into an nhs admin job?

All these people getting jobs at the drop of a hat - what was I missing? It took me SIX MONTHS to get ANY job in my last cycle when I was unemployed for 6 months and that was 2005.
I signed up with multiple agencies
I tailored my CV
I even went around with hardcopies

I guess I suck at jobseeking - that is true as I get worse the longer I do it - it certainly puts a cherry bomb in my executive function.

rwalker
“Most people could get a job in care tomorrow if they wanted”

This comment makes me very unhappy, largely because I think it carries an element of truth. People who need to be cared for require the highest standard of carers, but with wages for carers as shockingly low as they are, I suspect this often isn’t the case.

There is a lot of hiring in parts of the civil service at the moment. The jobs are all on civil service jobs.

@edwinbear

YANBU OP. DH was made redundant from a finance role a year ago, he’s applying for everything - roles similar to what he did but also supermarkets, retail, bar work (pre second lockdown), but can’t get anything. Not that surprising, why would someone hire him for a retail job when there are so many out of work retail staff going for the same jobs. He’s 52 and reached the conclusion he will never work again, I think he’s probably right.

Has he been getting interviews?

NoGoodPunsLeft yes, I think you're right. It was so odd how impossible it was for so many people to get the work, when we were all being told how desperately workers were needed.
Yes, it was probably Daily Mail-esque fodder. Another excuse for them to attack benefit claimants. To pick on some of the poorest people in society. People who need support. Weird how some people get such a kick out of picking on the poor. I'll never understand it...

@HammerToFall this is great. You have an sector specific qualification and thanks to your home set up you can work nights and weekends. I am alone with kids. Covid has killed normal childcare/family helping (they are in 80s and over 2 hours drive away anyhow) and I cannot imagine how much night nannies charge.

A few great stories are lovely to read. But there also is a lot of hardship around.

tectonicplates in our local supermarket there was literally a cut off. DS & DD got in, DSiL stood behind DD in the queue, didnt.

Also I was never averse to fruit picking jobs as a student but I NEVER saw them advertised. They were usually only advertised in Polish if there were advertised in the UK.

At least I would have been outdoors and not in a shitty flea-infested factory instead.

@Azzizia to be honest I just rang a couple of agencies explained what I was looking for and started the next day. We must have a shortfall in nhs admin staff where I am. This was in a&e which lasted a few weeks and I have gone from post to post on the bank since then. I guess it's just experience that makes you desirable as they don't have to spend hours training on the systems etc. There are at least ten jobs come up on nhs jobs per week In my area and once I decide where I want to be willl apply for a permanent one

@Lowkeevslucille

I can give you a view from the over side...

Yes, we get "hundreds" of applications.

AT LEAST half are not even for the right location. If you apply for a job in Manchester but give me an address in Truro, your CV goes straight in the bin. You have to be pretty senior AND clear about your relocation for any employer considering offering you an interview, let alone a job on the other side of the country.
Even if most interviews have been done remotely since March.

AT LEAST 3/4 send a generic irrelevant CV and either don't bother doing a cover letter, read the spec, or even better make completely unrealistic requests. If you apply for a weekend job but state you won't work Saturdays, that won't get you far ..
Basically people apply to a job randomly without even reading the job description, and it shows.

Then, of all the candidates you offer an interview to, maybe half will mess you around, not turn up.

I could carry on, but basically when you read there are hundreds of application, it never means there are hundreds of candidates.

Absolutely! We were hiring for hospitality jobs. Nothing fancy, but still. We had applications from job centre which were 1 sentence, not even a cv. We had people who put 1 day availability on a full time job advertisement. We had people who said they couldn't do stairs when we specifically stated there were stairs (and no, nothing could have been done around it). We had many not turn up. We had some turn up in tracksuits. Have some respect fgs. For us and yourself. So yeah. HUNDREDS of applications. Not hundreds usable ones.

Imho large number of them sent it just so they could say they applied.

What worries me most about this situation is pretty much everyone (discounting the rare few online companies who have done well) Is in a good position.

Many people have actually lost jobs/been furloughed and this is costing the government massively. Usually this cost would be offset by squeezing the middle earning (£40-£100k) professionals but most of them are also suffering massively now and facing job insecurity. I don’t know anyone who feels safe right now and whilst people might say ‘well they should pay more taxes to support those furloughed on NMW’ why?? Why does one family deserve to lose their house any more than another and certainly not because they’re being forced to fund the other.

Before covid people are all levels of income/society had lives they could just about afford. That’s going to change/has already changed for so many.

I just fail to see where the gov will recoup this money from. It won’t be the millionaires/ billionaires as they’ll leave the country in a flash

*a bad position

I lost my job whilst on mat leave. When recruiters ask you what you are up to at the moment and you say you have been on maternity leave you may as well say you have the plague. You can tell in the back of the mind they are thinking there is going to be an issue if the nursery shuts, etc

AT LEAST half are not even for the right location. If you apply for a job in Manchester but give me an address in Truro, your CV goes straight in the bin.

That reminds me, I've just started a new job and my manager told me they had one CV from the other end of the country, no previous experience in the industry he just always fancied moving to Cornwall