To ask if Biden has definitely won?

[bluewanda]

He has, right? Joe Biden is the new POTUS!

Some people on florida are still angry that their votes werent counted properly so their electoral college votes went to Bush instead of Gore.

It wont be allowed to happen again, surely.

[quote MadameMinimes]No other news organisation has called Arizona yet.

I agree that it’s more than a technicality but this isn’t true. AP called for Biden, several hours after Fox, admittedly.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/explainer-why-ap-called-arizona-for-biden-donald-trump-joe-biden-arizona-maricopa-county-ap-b1583189.html[/quote]
AP is not a news organisation. They are the pollster used by Fox.

Two weeks ago, the US government stoplossed US army and national guard members and brought them into cities like Austin today in case of violence.

I wasn't aware. Can you link to a source for this?

They are also used by the guardian for all of their tallies.

85% chance of victory for Biden.

The BBC should be ashamed of their lacklustre coverage of this election. Even The Sun is doing a better job, much as it pains me to say a good word about that lot.

253/270.
He’s got this!!

@MissConductUS I don't believe it's been reported yet. I'm aware of this as I'm currently on a stint in the US working in this field while colleagues are out with COVID, and then saw a number of my students from the courses I teach get pulled down to Austin (Army, not national guard) in the middle of their degrees. These are advanced students based at in the DC area and from West Point, so not exactly local.

@prh47bridge

Unless there are two associate press organisations, then no they are not pollsters. They are a news outlet; a not for profit, worldwide news outlet for factual journalism which is usually highly respected.

I liked Biden's speech about reconciliation and bringing America together again. SO different to the divisiveness of the Orange Fool.
I hope to God Biden gets in. It's still too close for comfort

Unless I’m crossing wires somewhere and AP doesn’t mean what I think it does the AP is the associated press. Very much a news organisation.

We've seen curveballs before. Don't call it yet. But let's hope so.

I'm not convinced yet.

At this stage I would put Biden at 95% + as having 270+ EV on completion of counting. What Trump will do after that God knows. There simply aren't any good signs coming in for Trump at this moment.

AP is Associated Press. They are a news agency.

I fear violence will stop the counting and it will be chaos.

Biden is currently about 1/9 with the bookies.

[quote sergeilavrov]@christinarossetti19 North Carolina have 117,000ish ballots outstanding, and postal ballots have until the 12th November to arrive, so I wouldn't anticipate getting a solid result until then.[/quote]
Thank you!

What are the current bookies' odds for Trump, does anyone know?

@prh47bridge

They're also like, the gold standard news source for calling elections because they have so many journalists calling and speaking with election officials and pollsters so they can collate the information. They are great at polls because they dont just send a few people out to poll the public; they call in information from as many reliabe sources as they can get.
And they aren't just used by Fox.

But as well as making poll information available, they also just report the news.

The remaining states are:

North Carolina (15 electoral votes) - likely Trump
Georgia (16 EVs) - toss up but Biden slightly favourite
Pennsylvania (20 EVs) - Biden slightly favourite
Arizona (11 EVs) - likely Biden
Nevada (6 EVs) - likely Biden
Michigan (16 EVs) - likely Biden (and ABC has just called it for Biden while I've been typing)

In addition to the above, there will almost certainly be a recount in Wisconsin (10EVs). Currently Biden is shown as the winner in Wisconsin.

Only three incumbent Presidents have been defeated in history.

Some shops are boarded up around here, and some have announced shorter hours for the next little while until we see how things pan out.

There is an air of nervous anticipation, mingled with disbelief that it is so close after all that Trump has put the US through. I live in a very blue part of a stalwart blue state and sometimes I think that the surrounding states are foreign countries.

[quote WhereverIGoddamnLike]@prh47bridge

They're also like, the gold standard news source for calling elections because they have so many journalists calling and speaking with election officials and pollsters so they can collate the information. They are great at polls because they dont just send a few people out to poll the public; they call in information from as many reliabe sources as they can get.
And they aren't just used by Fox.

But as well as making poll information available, they also just report the news.[/quote]
You are right. I should have said broadcaster rather than news organisation. Most broadcasters (and, indeed, most of the pollsters) think that Fox and AP have called Arizona right but they shouldn't have called it yet.

There simply aren't any good signs coming in for Trump at this moment

More to the point his numbers haven't gone up for hours
Even an occasional win might have calmed him, but he must be climbing the walls by now