To ask if Biden has definitely won?

[bluewanda]

He has, right? Joe Biden is the new POTUS!

Biden ain’t the greatest candidate ever, but he was the right man to capture the broadest possible antiTrump vote. Getting that mentally unstable, divisive, climate change denier out the WH was all that mattered. Mission accomplished.

Biden is not Trump. That's the one thing to get now, So let him and the US move on, doesn't matter if he is a puppet. He is NOT TRUMP lol.

It's such an insanely complicated process, why don't they just use actual number of votes? We wouldn't have ended up with the fart last time had that been the case.

Oh come on there's loads of these incidents. It all adds up. He can't hold a proper debate, reverts to "c'mon!" whenever he can't argue a point etc. There's so much analysis on line. I've nothing against him but he's not capable of being president and just because we really, really want him to be, we can't pretend otherwise.

Biden did fine in the debates especially when Trump got threatened with the mute button. He got a much more favourable post debate feedback.
He’s a political expert, understands the economy and is experienced - everything Trump isn’t.

Ok, well we will see won't we

[quote MotheringShites]@purplebunny2012 I thought the ban was a Presidential decree and could be lifted by the POTUS. Biden was vocally against it when it was introduced.

Anyway, it was a lighthearted comment which I forget will only be met by snidey remarks on here.[/quote]
Fair enough light-hearted. But as by travel you presumably mean to other countries, then it is definitely not the decision of one person in one country, IYSWIM

No, put on the news!

@TheJourneyWoman

Oh come on there's loads of these incidents. It all adds up. He can't hold a proper debate, reverts to "c'mon!" whenever he can't argue a point etc. There's so much analysis on line. I've nothing against him but he's not capable of being president and just because we really, really want him to be, we can't pretend otherwise.

And then you balance that against the alternative, and Joe looks pretty damn good.

The DNC really need to find better candidates though.

@earnshaw47

whatever your personal feelings are about Donald Trump, as far as brexit is concerned , it would have been better if he had won ,Joe Biden has no interest in us

Good, maybe he'll leave our NHS alone. I completely disagree with you, but then I voted to remain

I am constantly praying for that to be true. I am a wreck.

The DNC really need to find better candidates though.

This is what I will never understand. How can these two be the best that entire nation could come up with? I wonder if the whole situation is such a poisoned chalice, none of the younger, more dynamic candidates wanted to touch it and are holding out till four or eight years time when hopefully things might have calmed down a bit.

Does he? He doesn't even know his grand daughter's name apparently. I agree he won't be in charge alone though. He's not capable of it. Those pulling the strings will make sure he's well cushioned and only wheeled out when it can't be avoided.

FFS, he makes a slip up, as he has a stammer it’s harder to correct and he is being mocked for it.

Whereas Trump A, can’t hold a glass of water with one hand,

Recommended that the scientists investigate to see whether injecting bleach might be a suitable treatment for COVID.

Said that the only reason why the U.S. COVID figures were so high was because they were testing too much so to stop testing...

There’s a pattern there too isn’t there? It seems he also believes the only reason why he’s losing is because they’re counting votes against him so to stop counting.

And where is Trump? Seriously he hasn’t been seen in public since yesterday morning, and then he sounded decidedly off.

Normally he would be out whipping up hysteria, shouting from the rooftops about how it was all fake news, and how he had already won, but he hasn’t.

Either there’s something seriously wrong with him, hence the campaign announcement that he’s alive and well because the public can’t know that yet, or his team have kept him out of the spotlight because he’s such an embarrassment. But that’s unlikely because he doesn’t take advice or instruction from anyone.

So where is he?

@TheJourneyWoman

Oh come on there's loads of these incidents. It all adds up. He can't hold a proper debate, reverts to "c'mon!" whenever he can't argue a point etc. There's so much analysis on line. I've nothing against him but he's not capable of being president and just because we really, really want him to be, we can't pretend otherwise.

We really, really want Trump not to be.

That's all.

If you were offered a choice between, I don't know, a bowl of pasta or a smouldering bag of shit, would you sit there going, "I don't feel like pasta"?

So you want us to just ignore and not discuss the failings of the other candidate then?

OK, a better analogy: if you were on the Titanic and you were fortunate enough to bag a lifeboat, would you complain that it was uncomfortable and a bit unsafe?

(Maybe you would?)

@TheJourneyWoman
Trump claimed that climate change was “a Chinese hoax”. I don’t want such an idiot managing a branch of Tesco, let alone pushing policy that will affect the whole important country/world. What part of that is hard to grasp?

Normally he would be out whipping up hysteria, shouting from the rooftops about how it was all fake news, and how he had already won, but he hasn’t

He has, via social media, but Twitter and Facebook have been working overtime to put messages on all his posts.

@TheJourneyWoman

So you want us to just ignore and not discuss the failings of the other candidate then?

Sure, with people who are willing to put some effort into actually providing evidence for their claims instead of just parroting right-wing tropes.

It's not very interesting for us Brita, but if Biden wins, the thousands of jobs under his control will actually be appointed and the heads of education, the environment etc won't be taken by lobbyist people who hate education, the environment etc. Judges will be appointed who are not all pro gun and anti abortion. Basically, normal politics can return.

He won't actually be able to achieve large signature policies because of the gridlocked system. But he also won't be shouting about how much he loves neo Nazis. So things will be better.

Joe Biden seems like a rational human being - what more could you ask for given the competitor. I can't believe people will actually admit to being pro-Trump - it's like being pro-Hitler, I mean he has absolutely no redeeming qualities that I can see, just a total liability. Every pro Trump comment I've seen is misinformation. The only negative for Biden I can see is his age - which is basically the same as Trump....

Good summary of the options

We can hope.... so many conflicting reports.

I'm holding my breath! -Remember, that was the mis-placed confidence that enabled Trump to walk into the White House those long 4 years ago! "The show ain't over until the horizontally, generously, proportioned lady has sung!"