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What do you dislike most about today's society?

263 replies

RUNFAST11 · 01/11/2020 18:34

For me this society has made good steps i.e. gender equality, fight against racism and speaking out on mental health.

However, there are aspects which I dislike.

  1. Posting everything on social media (nowadays a lot of people feel like they need to post everything on social media which can be dangerous as someone who is not close to you can know important details of your life)

  2. Consumerism (wanting new things, latest stuff etc..) I think see this especially with children who want what their friends have such as the latest phone, shoes, laptop etc..

  3. The world is more individualistic rather than collectivist (Before we used to check up on our elderly relatives, neighbours and would have a chat to people say who we saw outside.) Another example is bashing people on benefits, free school meals rather than helping these individuals some see them as scroungers which is totally wrong.

  4. Too much hypocrisy (We see people making campaigns like #BeKind but they are the same people who bully others.)

  5. We need to teach more real life things from an early age that impacts everyone (i.e. cooking, finance, savings etc..)

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OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 03/11/2020 07:35

The lack of proper leadership. I’m old enough to remember Nixon (hell LBJ, Wilson and Thatcher) and whilst they were generally bloody awful, they didn’t act like spoilt children, they were statesmen who didn’t trample roughshod over tradition. Could you imagine something like the Frost/Nixon debate now?
The rejection of science and facts. The wholesale destruction of the natural world.
I hate this world.

Roselilly36 · 03/11/2020 07:39

Lack of kindness & empathy.
The permanently offended & entitled.

gluteustothemaximus · 03/11/2020 07:41

Everyone's opinions on social media. Like they are facts.

Judgements on others, lack of empathy.

Left and right political arguments.

DartmoorDoughnut · 03/11/2020 07:44

Virtue signalling. Just do something nice/good and get on with your life.

Pomelos · 03/11/2020 07:46

I’ve been reading the Nurture Effect: How the science of human behaviour can improve our lives and our world, and since having a baby really feel for the children whose needs are not met. Empathy needs to be taught and nurtured and children model the behaviour of their parents. If we were all kinder, I’m sure society will be a better place. Sadly it won’t be in my lifetime but I hope for my daughter’s sake, the world she grows up in will be better.

Gancanny · 03/11/2020 07:51

If people stopped being such snowflakes, got on with things and had some resilience then our services wouldn’t be so overwhelmed.

Snowflakes.... yawn

Services are overwhelmed because of years of chronic underfunding and a system not fit for purpose.

Nottherealslimshady · 03/11/2020 07:51

That you can choose not to work but still have an income.

That we dont punish rape and child abuse strongly enough, especially when you tried but didn't succeed so get a lesser sentence.

That we're still fucking racist.

That we keep starting wars with countries that have valuable assets then call the citizens trying to protect themselves terrorists.

Nottherealslimshady · 03/11/2020 07:56

Calling people who want the world to be better or dont hide their emotions and turn to drink and hurting those that love them instead of saying they're struggling "snowflakes".

It's just another way for people too afraid to face life head-on to stick their heads in the sand and cover insecurity with nastiness.

gurglebelly · 03/11/2020 08:05

My biggest hate is the 'I say it how it is' people. No, that's just a euphemism for being and arsehole most of the time. And it's interesting that (mostly) these people are often incapable of dealing with it if some 'says it how it is' to them

Lifeisabeach09 · 03/11/2020 08:09

Social media, increasingly dirty, littered streets, pervasive aggressive/angry atmospheres in public, lack of respect, political correctness gone haywire.

refusetobeasheep · 03/11/2020 08:14

The venom. Fine to disagree and discuss but the 0-100 acceleration to full on name calling is just depressing.

LadyCatStark · 03/11/2020 08:17

Entitlement
Snowflakes
Fakeness; fake lips, fake eye lashes, fake nails, fake hair, fake boobs, fake pictures on social media. Everyone looks the same!

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 03/11/2020 08:20

To have no resilience to anything at all and scream MH for the slightest inconvenience

This 1000% times.

Agree, and then people wonder why our MH service are so over burdened. People don't seem to have any resilience skills anymore

This. Our MH services are overburdened with people with simply not much resilience skills and those with severe, chronic mental illness then find it very difficult to access these services due to them being clogged up. Much of the funding goes towards input for people who 20 years ago wouldn't have been entertained in MH services while the genuinely mentally ill are having day services, groups etc disbanded due to lack of funding. Very frustrating to watch.

Nocaloriesinchocolate · 03/11/2020 08:22

Those who are screaming continuously about their human rights and totally ignoring the natural corollary - their human duties.

A lack of tolerance towards those of us of an older generation who after a lifetime of language changing sometimes get confused about what to call black people. (Since BLM I assume that is the correct term).

Lightheartedly, beards. DS (adult) had one which i couldn't stand. (He very perceptively said that was because only adult men gave beards and in my mind he was still my little boy - I hadn't realised but he was dead right!). AnywAy, he's frontline NHS and was told to shave it off as the PPE wouldn't fit! Yay!

Wherehavetheteletubbiesgone · 03/11/2020 08:24

People taking offense at everything. "Dumbo is racist", "you can't say that any more" and people who try to out politically correct each other.

Individualism and our effect on the environment everything is about my rights sod the impact on others. It's about making life easier (i used Terry's nappies to reduce waste but now disposable nappies are much more common). Asian countries have a much more collective society.

Finally house prices are stupid and it is entirely generational, council houses have been sold off cheaply to older generations and not replaced. The private sector rental market has flourished as housing inequality has grown. Coupled with final salary pensions being removed makes it pretty grim for a young person in work.

Proudboomer · 03/11/2020 08:24

Peoples need to post every bit of their lives online from a picture of what they are eating to the the of their sister in a car crash (yes the second did actually get live steamed.

Feelings over facts.

Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one but just because someone posts theirs on YouTube it doesn’t make it more valid than mine. Some with celebrities just because you were in a marvel film it doesn’t mean that your extra special and the whole world needs to listen to you.

Celebrity culture with the likes of Cardi b being role models for young girls.

The rise in influencer culture. Why are people so dependent on others telling them what they need to buy.

CorianderLord · 03/11/2020 08:26

Lack of community - it's only natural now everyone moves around more for work but it would be lovely to be friends with more than one of my neighbours.

Incels - men who think they're owed something by women.

madcatladyforever · 03/11/2020 08:26

There just isn't the community there was in the 60s and 70s. I'm 58 so I remember. Social media killed it. People weren't as horrifically lonely as they are now.

PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 08:40

Hallie, hun, MH services are overwhelmed because of lack of funding. It took me two years to get seen and I attempted suicide twice during that period and self harmed so badly I had to go to hospital. I had the police called on me because I was sat on the edge of a station platform about to jump off.

How mentally ill do you have to be before MN takes you seriously, just out of interest?

Givemeabreak45 · 03/11/2020 08:44

The lack of connection in my generation (late 20s) - using social media etc as a means of 'keeping in touch' with people when it's all pretty meaningless. No one having time/being bothered to actually meet up in person. Obsession with 'living your best life', 'fomo' and documenting everything on social media. General selfishness. Bullying on social media. People complaining about racism/homophobia/prejudice then bashing another group in society...
The damage we've done to our beautiful planet and continue to do...

the80sweregreat · 03/11/2020 09:16

People who flout the rules and have to make a huge fuss.
Was in a fast food restaurant and three young people refused to put a face covering on and were abusing the poor lady who asked them politely to wear one. The girls pushed past her to use the loos and the man stood and argued for ten minutes before finally going. It took three staff to finally tell them him he couldn't come in and they had to clean the toilets after the others left.
It was shameful behavior. Wear a face cover if you want to order food inside.
It's not hard and they didn't have any reasons not to. It Wound me up so much. People dropping litter also winds me up.
Anyone who is arrogant or rude. No need for it especially towards people just doing their jobs.

Iamnotminterested · 03/11/2020 09:17

Virtue Signalling masking the vast majority of people's 'I'm alright Jack' reality.

Another vote for social media and the need for instant and constant gratification.

That millions of people still die every year due to a lack of basic food, sanitation and medicine.

PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 09:17

@the80sweregreat

People who flout the rules and have to make a huge fuss. Was in a fast food restaurant and three young people refused to put a face covering on and were abusing the poor lady who asked them politely to wear one. The girls pushed past her to use the loos and the man stood and argued for ten minutes before finally going. It took three staff to finally tell them him he couldn't come in and they had to clean the toilets after the others left. It was shameful behavior. Wear a face cover if you want to order food inside. It's not hard and they didn't have any reasons not to. It Wound me up so much. People dropping litter also winds me up. Anyone who is arrogant or rude. No need for it especially towards people just doing their jobs.
This, and I’d add the way people think it’s acceptable to treat service staff like dirt.
earthyfire · 03/11/2020 09:24

Social media, I don't use it as much anymore as I hate what it's become. I stepped away from instagram entirely because it just made me feel like a customer to anyone famous I was following, I don't want to be bombarded with the next "great" thing/freebie they are endorsing/advertising.

Runningdownthathill · 03/11/2020 09:25

@CaptainCorellisPangolin

1) Constant advertising. Especially sexualised advertising. It's everywhere and it must be working to an extent if they keep doing it. Who are these people buying perfumes/sofas/yoghurt because there's an almost naked young woman standing next to it?
  1. A lack of questioning our choices. Not just what we do, but why we do it. Comes up a lot in arguments about liberal feminism and radical feminism. Yes, of course it's your choice to wear makeup, but has it not occurred to you that it would be a humongous coincidence when it is overwhelmingly the female half of the population who spend hundreds (sometimes thousands, reading the s&b threads here) on cosmetics, considering that each one is making that choice entirely of their own volition?

  2. Which segues into consumerism. The sheer amount of stuff that people have. The clothes and shoes and makeup and a new phone every year. People are shopping out of boredom.

  3. Lack of nuance in arguments and a tendency toward either extreme. People are desperate for easy answers to complex problems.

  4. An insistence that everything new is better and a sneering attitude toward anyone who, actually, quite likes listening to the radio, for example. There is a sweet spot between a refusal to progress and rapid change with no thought for the people being left behind. Mostly, it is driven by a pervading focus on youth culture.

  5. The dumbing down of everything. A push for everything to be informal. Primarily the fault of social media.

I'm only 30 and I'm too old for this shit.

So,so true!