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What do you dislike most about today's society?

263 replies

RUNFAST11 · 01/11/2020 18:34

For me this society has made good steps i.e. gender equality, fight against racism and speaking out on mental health.

However, there are aspects which I dislike.

  1. Posting everything on social media (nowadays a lot of people feel like they need to post everything on social media which can be dangerous as someone who is not close to you can know important details of your life)

  2. Consumerism (wanting new things, latest stuff etc..) I think see this especially with children who want what their friends have such as the latest phone, shoes, laptop etc..

  3. The world is more individualistic rather than collectivist (Before we used to check up on our elderly relatives, neighbours and would have a chat to people say who we saw outside.) Another example is bashing people on benefits, free school meals rather than helping these individuals some see them as scroungers which is totally wrong.

  4. Too much hypocrisy (We see people making campaigns like #BeKind but they are the same people who bully others.)

  5. We need to teach more real life things from an early age that impacts everyone (i.e. cooking, finance, savings etc..)

OP posts:
Zenithbear · 03/11/2020 09:29

*gurglebelly

My biggest hate is the 'I say it how it is' people. No, that's just a euphemism for being and arsehole most of the time. And it's interesting that (mostly) these people are often incapable of dealing with it if some 'says it how it is' to them*

I know a couple of these, my Auntie is a pretty vicious one. She has no friends and wonders why no one visits her.

Gancanny · 03/11/2020 09:32

Our MH services are overburdened with people with simply not much resilience skills and those with severe, chronic mental illness then find it very difficult to access these services due to them being clogged up. Much of the funding goes towards input for people who 20 years ago wouldn't have been entertained in MH services while the genuinely mentally ill are having day services, groups etc disbanded due to lack of funding

Services do filter out the people who don't have need of them and for whom the service wouldn't be appropriate/suitable. The waiting list isn't first come first served, its triaged based on need and there are separate services for those in immediate crisis.

The reason the services are patchy, inconsistent, and difficult to access is due to lack of funding because mental health support is not considered a priority.

It is not weakness to ask for help or to seek mental health support however many posters here seem to think that "bucking up" is the cure for all ills.

Runningdownthathill · 03/11/2020 09:38

@Gancanny

Our MH services are overburdened with people with simply not much resilience skills and those with severe, chronic mental illness then find it very difficult to access these services due to them being clogged up. Much of the funding goes towards input for people who 20 years ago wouldn't have been entertained in MH services while the genuinely mentally ill are having day services, groups etc disbanded due to lack of funding

Services do filter out the people who don't have need of them and for whom the service wouldn't be appropriate/suitable. The waiting list isn't first come first served, its triaged based on need and there are separate services for those in immediate crisis.

The reason the services are patchy, inconsistent, and difficult to access is due to lack of funding because mental health support is not considered a priority.

It is not weakness to ask for help or to seek mental health support however many posters here seem to think that "bucking up" is the cure for all ills.

The ‘help’ that people mention is non existent. Those who are lucky might get six sessions of CBT which is no use for those with more than mild depression. Other than that there are only anti depressants. Which often don’t work or make things worse. A relative had been clinically depressed for a decade and has had no help bar six different anti depressants and a short course of CBT. They are actively suicidal and struggling desperately. No one cares.
SkedaddIe · 03/11/2020 09:46

Enemies of progress.

So what if people are virtue signalling, there are far worse things to be proud of! BLM?perfect. Vegan? You're a better person for the planet than me, literally, and I'm not mad at you.

And the flip side to that is the closet bigots. Anti BLM... hmmm... I literally cannot fathom in what universe it's a bad thing for people to not want be murdered. Personally, I'd prefer that bigots aren't also cowards then at least we can have an open debate to educate each other or I can avoid them completely.

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 03/11/2020 09:47

Entitlement.

People who claim oppression and victim status when in reality they just don't like being told no.

Misogyny and the expectations of females today both in looks and sexual behaviour.

unmarkedbythat · 03/11/2020 09:49

Being more pleased that 'the other side' has lost than that whatever/ whoever you were supporting has won.

Gancanny · 03/11/2020 09:49

The ‘help’ that people mention is non existent.
Those who are lucky might get six sessions of CBT which is no use for those with more than mild depression. Other than that there are only anti depressants. Which often don’t work or make things worse. A relative had been clinically depressed for a decade and has had no help bar six different anti depressants and a short course of CBT. They are actively suicidal and struggling desperately. No one cares.

I know. Its an absolute scandal and is pushing people into increasingly desperate situations but it is due to cuts and lack of funding not because Debbie from Wigan wants a but of help with feeling anxious.

Macncheeseballs · 03/11/2020 09:54

The fact that everyone thinks it's their god given right to drive everywhere

RoseGold7 · 03/11/2020 10:04
  1. Lack of representation in the U.K. in various industries: media, arts, sport etc (East and SE Asians).

  2. Fake social media photos and videos (Filters and FaceTune) - people look totally different in real life. To the point they are unrecognisable.

  3. Mental health is still a taboo Sad

RoseGold7 · 03/11/2020 10:05

@Gancanny

*The ‘help’ that people mention is non existent. Those who are lucky might get six sessions of CBT which is no use for those with more than mild depression. Other than that there are only anti depressants. Which often don’t work or make things worse. A relative had been clinically depressed for a decade and has had no help bar six different anti depressants and a short course of CBT. They are actively suicidal and struggling desperately. No one cares.*

I know. Its an absolute scandal and is pushing people into increasingly desperate situations but it is due to cuts and lack of funding not because Debbie from Wigan wants a but of help with feeling anxious.

Agree. CBT is great for those with anxiety or recent depression. Not so great with those suffering long term trauma and suicidal thoughts.
cantdothisnow1 · 03/11/2020 10:10

The way, as a society, we treat disabled children.

Until I had them I had no idea that disabled children are often actively denied an education in this country.

Local Authorities spend money to deny these children a fair opportunity in life.

www.goodschoolsguide.co.uk/digital-media/blog/councils-squander-sen-childrens-funding

DugongDay48256 · 03/11/2020 10:46

At school I had sewing & cookery classes

As a teenager I could by some cheap material from the market & make a pair of trousers & wear them the same day

I could cook some basic meals
.
I also have a school qualification in Latin

Which skills do you think have been the most useful as an adult ?

DugongDay48256 · 03/11/2020 10:48

Buy

AcornsVsBcorns · 03/11/2020 10:52

Lot of things, but mostly politics.

We're now at a stage with politicians of "They are lying. We know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying - they just don't care because we're worthless to them".

HelloBambinos · 03/11/2020 10:55

I agree with entitlement and selfishness of people. The whole idea thar more money equals a more worthy and better person you are.. Ridiculous. Social media driven and materialistic people. Have a conversation for crying out loud.. Pretending to believe in something and pose for a photo just for likes because it's the 'in thing'.. Ramming opinions down everyone's throats rather than accepting individuality.. Then acting superior.. The who is the biggest victim.. Panic buyers.. Hoarding needed items to sell for profit.. God the list goes on. No sense of community and care for others.. Just greed and attention seeking.

PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 10:59

@Zenithbear

*gurglebelly

My biggest hate is the 'I say it how it is' people. No, that's just a euphemism for being and arsehole most of the time. And it's interesting that (mostly) these people are often incapable of dealing with it if some 'says it how it is' to them*

I know a couple of these, my Auntie is a pretty vicious one. She has no friends and wonders why no one visits her.

I am as well and it is not a good thing.
DeeCeeCherry · 03/11/2020 11:02

Schadenfreude
Un-social media

DugongDay48256 · 03/11/2020 11:04

Consumerism is not compulsory, never was & never will be

Ive never understood why people don't keep an eye on their finances & live within their means/cut their cloth accordingly

Kidneybingo · 03/11/2020 11:20

That nepotism and lack of equal opportunity is still a thing in so many walks of life.

the80sweregreat · 03/11/2020 15:22

Kidneybingo . Nepotism also winds me up : it's not what you know but who you know. It's sad that this is so true and always will be. The old boys network is alive and well!

PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 17:34

The media is very bad for this. Working class kids have far more hoops to jump through than middle class kids with the right connections.

Namechange8471 · 03/11/2020 17:51

Most young people (although i expect not all!) seem very vapid, obsessed with tik tok and eyebrows. I feel they would benefit from reading more and doing more, the internet has ruined some of them.

Yes to consumerism, cheap clothes, tat from the poundshop, Christmas eve boxes, all a load of shite.

I think apathy is a big threat to today's society, a lot of people can't be bothered to do anything, especially of it doesn't effect them.

faelavie · 03/11/2020 19:59

I came into this thread expecting to say everything you've said in point number 3.

Individualism over collectivism is my main problem with today's society. I feel like people are all just "me me me" now, and go about their day with very little thought of how their actions may affect others.

PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 22:30

@faelavie

I came into this thread expecting to say everything you've said in point number 3.

Individualism over collectivism is my main problem with today's society. I feel like people are all just "me me me" now, and go about their day with very little thought of how their actions may affect others.

The Bonfire Night threads are an example. There's a lot of 'fuck your pets/autistic people/people who hate loud bangs, we want to have fun dammit'.
eaglejulesk · 04/11/2020 05:04

There just isn't the community there was in the 60s and 70s. I'm 58 so I remember. Social media killed it. People weren't as horrifically lonely as they are now.

That is so true, and it's very sad.