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What do you dislike most about today's society?

263 replies

RUNFAST11 · 01/11/2020 18:34

For me this society has made good steps i.e. gender equality, fight against racism and speaking out on mental health.

However, there are aspects which I dislike.

  1. Posting everything on social media (nowadays a lot of people feel like they need to post everything on social media which can be dangerous as someone who is not close to you can know important details of your life)

  2. Consumerism (wanting new things, latest stuff etc..) I think see this especially with children who want what their friends have such as the latest phone, shoes, laptop etc..

  3. The world is more individualistic rather than collectivist (Before we used to check up on our elderly relatives, neighbours and would have a chat to people say who we saw outside.) Another example is bashing people on benefits, free school meals rather than helping these individuals some see them as scroungers which is totally wrong.

  4. Too much hypocrisy (We see people making campaigns like #BeKind but they are the same people who bully others.)

  5. We need to teach more real life things from an early age that impacts everyone (i.e. cooking, finance, savings etc..)

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Chosennone · 01/11/2020 21:56

Might get flamed for this. I am in a blended family myself.
But the lack of 'family' at all. Both sexes procreating literally willy nilly. Several children born out of ONS/ FWB type situation. Or people getting pregnant within weeks of meeting someone despite the fact their are already various DC on both sides.

Stripesnomore · 01/11/2020 22:02

Pesto, but I am not saying that they mean the person has a mental health problem. I am saying that they are symptoms. A doctor would talk to someone and see if they had other symptoms or if there was not really an issue.

My mother had a similar approach to me when I was a teenager in the eighties, very pull yourself together. So I ended up attempting suicide and having years of mental health problems, and part of that was due to lack of knowledge of and general awareness of what mental health problems are.

If someone suspects they have mental health problems, or exhibits signs, then none of us have the expertise to diagnose them as having/ not having them. They should see a doctor. Another facet of modern life - as the meme says we all parkour from being mental health experts to epidemic experts to race relations experts just because we read something on social media. But we’re not.

With my own adult kids I have been clear about mental health issues but also that ultimately the only person who can take responsibility for resolving those issues is the person who has them. There is no magic wand or free pass with them; they are just another thing to handle in life.

But I was still an arsehole to the previous poster. Sorry for that.

Okbye · 01/11/2020 22:03

Entitlement!! Omg this really makes me want to scream! The me me me mentality that SO many adults/kids have now is truly astonishing.

Also agree with a PP about (some) women getting pregnant willy nilly with whichever man comes along next, even if the woman already has several kids and is living in hardship.

MrsMomoa · 01/11/2020 22:04

A complete lack of empathy.

Mask Police I'm looking at you!!

DdraigGoch · 01/11/2020 22:05

@Drogonssmile

Sorry I should add a disclaimer that I'm mostly talking about work (NHS) patients being verbally abusive as if they're the only one.
Oh it's not just the NHS. In any job where you are in contact with the public, you will come across entitled twats.
rosiejaune · 01/11/2020 22:07

Inequality. And it's the root of most if not all of the other things anyway.

YouKnowWhoo · 01/11/2020 22:08

@sst1234

Never taking responsibility for your choices, it’s always someone else’s fault. All bad behaviour is put down to mental health issues, holding people responsible for their actions is just not done.
Yep, I agree with you.
Gingernaut · 01/11/2020 22:10

The dumbing down, the disparagement of education and training and the rise of woo and 'alternative science'.

From television to social media, where are the Horizons, The World In Actions and the QEDs - instead of wall to wall trash?

The lack of science and engineering knowledge is despair inducing.

HateIsNotGood · 01/11/2020 22:12

Thankfully I live in a place where mostly your recommendations are followed therefore YANBU.

However I would amend Point 5;

Cooking - yes, and I would add Sewing too (maybe one of the neighbours you chat to can sew but not so good at something you do) but Finance and Savings aren't separate categories, just call it Finance. Otherwise Point 5 is overweighted towards Money stuff.

And Add a Point 6:

Appreciate the birds singing, the ever changing sky and the seasons.

sevencontinents · 01/11/2020 22:15

Twitter abuse
Rampant consumersm
Fashions - encourages huge amounts of waste and relies on us blindly following what the industry tells us we should wear/put in our homes.
The influence of Rupert Murdoch over the world.
The current obsession on the right with left 'virtue signalling'.
The belief among the left that everyone on the right is 'selfish', 'thick' or 'racist'.
The fact that the caring professions are grossly underpaid.
That we are all still buying from Amazon despite what we know about them.
That private schools exist at all.

Oh. That felt gooooood.

Annabanana455 · 01/11/2020 22:16

How entitled so many people are

And bad driving. So much bad driving.

Feellikefrighteningyeah · 01/11/2020 22:17

Swearing .It's prolific

tearstainedbakes · 01/11/2020 22:37

Entitlement and the tendency to not be willing to understand life beyond your own experience.

Am enjoying the people pointing out that social media is ruining society by posting it on social media.

Runningdownthathill · 01/11/2020 23:10

Agree with all that has been said on the whole.
I think the joy has been sucked out of life. No one seems to have a genuine sense of humour anymore. Everyone is so busy finding fault/ calling everyone else racist/transphobic etc. All this finger pointing and self righteousness , no genuine empathy and most of all no ability to think independently .
As someone said above, where have all the programmes like Panorama gone? All we get now is shallow wittering and poor presentation.
Everything has been dumbed down, no one can spell or speak grammatically. Serious subjects are not addressed.
Tv programmes have commercial breaks every three minutes and seem to be aimed at five year olds.
EVERYTHING is sexualised to a wearisome extent.
Porn is seem as normal.
Life seems to be completely dreary these days, no fun, no spontaneity. No originality or creativity.
I watched Michael Palin talking about Monty Python tonight and realised a programme like that would just never be made these days. The BBC wouldn’t pay for it and no one would think of the idea.
The other thing is the general lack of kindness or manners. People scream abuse and swear at each other online so think that extends to real life. A bit of tolerance and good manners goes a long way.

ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble · 01/11/2020 23:28

Fanaticism of any kind.

Stupidity.

Autumnblooms · 01/11/2020 23:34

The constant one up man ship of ‘well I have/had it harder and coped fine’

Also the fact that people are their own islands these days and community/seeing families regularly are a thing of the past

grassisjeweled · 01/11/2020 23:40

A piece of shit is the same as gold to a throwaway society.

@Mymycherrypie

This is one of the cleverest things I've seen written on here for a long time!

furrypesto · 01/11/2020 23:50

Stripesnomore the situation you describe happening to you is only confirming what I wrote. You clearly had a real problem that needed addressing and I'm sorry that no one listened to you. Nowhere did I say that distress that leads to a suicide attempt should be ignored - quite the opposite. But actually, as the pp demonstrated, sometimes someone needs a chat with a family member or a friend and to realise, no it's not something that warrants medication/sectioning/etc but is a normal reaction to a stressful situation. Of course not everyone has that outlet and maybe that's another problem with modern society - no one has time to listen, to support anyone because they're too busy struggling with day to day demands.

I'm sorry if you felt I was minimising your own struggles - believe me, that is not what I intended. I am also a child of the 80s and know how damaging the denial around mental health is. But I also think it is damaging to assume that every negative symptom, thought, feeling, automatically equals mental health problem. It's about maintaining a balance as with all things; yes, be open to the possibility of mental health problems and educate yourself about them but also be open to other possibilities too. And we must never forget the power of simply being heard and listened to by a loved one.

Ginorwine30 · 01/11/2020 23:50

The awful selfie culture! Everyone is so obsessed with how they look and all the awful lip fillers, fake boobs, fake arses etc. women seem to look more and more like caricatures and it’s sad Sad
And when they say they’ve had surgery for themselves but it’s for everyone else really

ViciousJackdaw · 02/11/2020 00:52

When I was a girl and 'played out' with my friends, any adult could tell any child to keep the noise down, to get out of their garden, not to play footy near windows, that sort of thing. You'd often hear 'Pack that in or I'll tell yer mam!' (regardless of whether they knew who yer mam was!) and we would indeed pack it in.
Nobody would dare these days.
On the other side, any adult could also feed and water any child too. In the summer holidays, we were often given ice pops or cups of squash by various adults in the streets where we played. Again, that just doesn't happen now.

BeanieB2020 · 02/11/2020 01:12

Excessive sensitivity--it's not necessary to have "trigger warnings" and "safe spaces" everywhere. It teaches jumping to automatic "offense" and "harm" instead of fostering resilience. Life is hard, and we need resilience. Shielding people doesn't help.

dayslikethese1 · 02/11/2020 01:29

A lighthearted one:
Makeup is too complicated these days, I don't understand what all these different products do, there used to be way less of them.

dayslikethese1 · 02/11/2020 01:30

Also no-one seems to want to walk anywhere anymore even if it's a really short distance and they are able...

TRus · 02/11/2020 02:19

@sst1234

People typing on their smartphones that they hate consumerism. People harping on about how it was great in the good old days, when actually if you speak to the people who lived through the good old days, they tell you horror stories about lack of choice, poor food quality, blackouts. In short, it’s so tedious, how everyone’s a socialist - until they can’t get an iPhone, that is.
That's it !

I don't mind not being able to get an iPhone. I don't mind even desperately wanting IPhone and not being able to get it. What I don't like is being forced into having one.

seayork2020 · 02/11/2020 02:41

I am finding people who spend as much time as possible constantly worrying about things and using anxiety (yes there are people who do genuinely have anxiety and other mental health issues, they are not who I am speaking of) that they want to control everything their friends talking about the things they do with their kids has to stop because they fell bad, they can't see 'perfect' things on social media because they feel bad, people can't talk about their kids school results because they are of course bragging and it makes them feel bad.

People can't talk about what they buy their kids for Christmas, they can't talk about their partners

If someone invites a friend for coffee that cannot happen unless every single person is invited because they will feel left out, all kids have to be invited to every birthday party because their kid may be left out. One relative can't do something nice for another because then family politics starts

then there is all the angst about the way grandparents don't babysit their grandkids properly or spend 24 seconds more with their other siblings kids - and the IL or ex-partner/new partner dramas

People feel judged but others just existing

Putting this much thought into feeling judged/feeling bad all the time must get exhausting

Then there is 'I know I am being irrational so you need to agree with what I say or I will call you a big meanie'

And as another poster mentioned the massive overuse of trigger warnings and the like

but the main thing is the double standard of women are precious petals and men are big mean baddies

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