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What do you dislike most about today's society?

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RUNFAST11 · 01/11/2020 18:34

For me this society has made good steps i.e. gender equality, fight against racism and speaking out on mental health.

However, there are aspects which I dislike.

  1. Posting everything on social media (nowadays a lot of people feel like they need to post everything on social media which can be dangerous as someone who is not close to you can know important details of your life)

  2. Consumerism (wanting new things, latest stuff etc..) I think see this especially with children who want what their friends have such as the latest phone, shoes, laptop etc..

  3. The world is more individualistic rather than collectivist (Before we used to check up on our elderly relatives, neighbours and would have a chat to people say who we saw outside.) Another example is bashing people on benefits, free school meals rather than helping these individuals some see them as scroungers which is totally wrong.

  4. Too much hypocrisy (We see people making campaigns like #BeKind but they are the same people who bully others.)

  5. We need to teach more real life things from an early age that impacts everyone (i.e. cooking, finance, savings etc..)

OP posts:
garlictwist · 04/11/2020 05:56

With a lot of these things it's a case of "twas ever thus". I think the world has always been this way due to human nature - we are inherently selfish.

SpecialWGM · 04/11/2020 06:45

I don't agree with the last part of your statement. Surely doing good whatever the reason is a good thing? Sharing that you bought a homeless person a hot drink on a cold day on FB isn't a cardinal sin.

P.s. I haven't been out shopping for a while and having had a very, very tough year have avoided going out too much in general. However I have in the past told friends on FB about my good deed not because I want them to think I'm great but to engender the idea that we should try and help people.

SpecialWGM · 04/11/2020 06:47

My response was to @pisspants stupid phone!

Caeruleanblue · 04/11/2020 06:57

There just isn't the community there was in the 60s and 70s. I'm 58 so I remember. Social media killed it. People weren't as horrifically lonely as they are now
I think it's due to cars - people walk from the door to the car - no interactions with anyone.
In the past we walked to the bust stop etc passed people, spoke to them. Supermarkets also took away the reason to be in town.

The population has grown by a third since I was young that is a LOT of people more on the roads, even in the hills as hillwalkers with dogs upset sheep, holidaymakers swamp beauty spots.

But the internet - OMG you could take up and learn any hobby, skill, musical instrument, foreign language, how to repair stuff, mental health support info, e t c..............
If people can't be bothered to take advantage of that and prefer to use social media so be it.

eaglejulesk · 04/11/2020 07:06

But the internet - OMG you could take up and learn any hobby, skill, musical instrument, foreign language, how to repair stuff, mental health support info, e t c..............

You have a good point, but it could also be argued that in earlier times if people wanted to learn something they got together with like minded people and you learned together, and bonded over a shared interest. Doing it at home by yourself, even if you do meet others online, is a poor substitute to my way of thinking.

malificent7 · 04/11/2020 07:11

Social media helped my dd immensely during lockdown as she used it to keep in touch with all her friends....conference calls on insta etc. Without it she would have been more lonely.

Halliehallie9828 · 04/11/2020 07:17

@Rollmopsrule

Halliehallie9828 people like you that throw words like snowflake and resilience around. Just absolutely clueless! On a thread were people are wishing for more kindness and empathy in the world aswell.
I’m kind to lots of people but that doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to think a lot of people lack resilience skills in today’s society.
LedaandtheSwan · 04/11/2020 09:12

I love Repair Shop. The things they repair and restore...some were meant to last for years. Now you can buy a £1 t-shirt from a well known Asian country off eBay, wear it a few times then chuck it in the bin. It's wasteful.

My Grandparents did recycling before it was needed urgently. They repaired their clothes etc, they saved tins, boxes and tubs and re-used them to store stuff, they grew their own food and kept chickens, they re-used leftovers until it was gone. They lived through WW2 so they formed those habits out of necessity, really. We need to get back to that.

Also, I don't like selfishness and how social media has created fixed tribal world outlooks. In my job, many people don't take ownership of their actions. It pisses me off.

lazylinguist · 04/11/2020 10:55

So what if people are virtue signalling, there are far worse things to be proud of! BLM?perfect. Vegan? You're a better person for the planet than me

But the problem is, virtue signalling is not only done by genuine, enthusiastic show-offs. It's also done by hypocrites and cynical companies and organisations who want to look woke while actually continuing to treat people like shit. Virtue-signalling is also responsible for calling for people to be cancelled for things like a single tasteless joke on their social media account when they were 14 or even on the basis of them not having posted anything in support of a particular issue. It's used as a stick to beat people with, and not always in the name of true progress.

Littleideasbigbook · 04/11/2020 11:18

I recognise a lot of this on social media/the internet. In real life? Not so much. My jobs means I go into lots of different houses, services, schools, organisations and community places. It is a rare and strange situation where someone is outright awful/selfish/virtue signalling/rude/snowflake/entitled. See it all the time online. In RL? Not much at all. I am lucky, but most people I encounter face to face are lovely. I live in Keighley, work in Bradford so not living in a bubble either. (Although not so much driving wise. Maybe it's a glass screen! Turns people into arseholes!)

keeprocking · 04/11/2020 11:26

The lack of balance and the pull to extremes, in both directions, eg extreme left or extreme right.
The cancel culture and ignoring all the opinions of someone if you disagree with some of their ideas.

We live on a sphere, more or less, if one moves far left or and another moves far right you meet up on the other side. The victims of Hitler and Stalin were just as dead irrespective of their opinions.
The cancel culture etc don't simply ignore your contrary opinion they get abusive and aggressive.
We're in a situation where people are too afraid of normal, human interaction for fear of 'offending' one of the professionally offended. As an old woman exiled from the North I like to watch Last of the Summer Wine over a late breakfast, it struck me the other day that it couldn't be made today, it would tick just about every 'ism' box going.

FourTeaFallOut · 04/11/2020 11:37

The inability of people to talk with and listen to those of a different opinion without descending into a pit of feelings and character assassinations. The art of compromise and, where that is impossible, agreeing to disagree.

I think it has led to the kind of division that will not be bridged, a political landscape of high drama and tantrums and a common language in which intolerance and offense has replaced robust debate.

PhilSwagielka · 04/11/2020 13:24

@keeprocking

*The lack of balance and the pull to extremes, in both directions, eg extreme left or extreme right. The cancel culture and ignoring all the opinions of someone if you disagree with some of their ideas.*

We live on a sphere, more or less, if one moves far left or and another moves far right you meet up on the other side. The victims of Hitler and Stalin were just as dead irrespective of their opinions.
The cancel culture etc don't simply ignore your contrary opinion they get abusive and aggressive.
We're in a situation where people are too afraid of normal, human interaction for fear of 'offending' one of the professionally offended. As an old woman exiled from the North I like to watch Last of the Summer Wine over a late breakfast, it struck me the other day that it couldn't be made today, it would tick just about every 'ism' box going.

Really? It always seemed fairly harmless to me.
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