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What do you dislike most about today's society?

263 replies

RUNFAST11 · 01/11/2020 18:34

For me this society has made good steps i.e. gender equality, fight against racism and speaking out on mental health.

However, there are aspects which I dislike.

  1. Posting everything on social media (nowadays a lot of people feel like they need to post everything on social media which can be dangerous as someone who is not close to you can know important details of your life)

  2. Consumerism (wanting new things, latest stuff etc..) I think see this especially with children who want what their friends have such as the latest phone, shoes, laptop etc..

  3. The world is more individualistic rather than collectivist (Before we used to check up on our elderly relatives, neighbours and would have a chat to people say who we saw outside.) Another example is bashing people on benefits, free school meals rather than helping these individuals some see them as scroungers which is totally wrong.

  4. Too much hypocrisy (We see people making campaigns like #BeKind but they are the same people who bully others.)

  5. We need to teach more real life things from an early age that impacts everyone (i.e. cooking, finance, savings etc..)

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Millie2013 · 02/11/2020 21:01

Yes, entitlement and thoughtlessness. It makes me sad Sad

Runningdownthathill · 02/11/2020 21:35

It’s so good to read this thread and realise there are still sane, articulate people around.

MrsZola · 02/11/2020 21:46

How mean, unkind, judgemental and unaccepting people are. As previous posters have said, it's all about the individual and nothing about the community.

ChupForPresident · 02/11/2020 21:56

@Drogonssmile

The entitlement. Absolutely no empathy for anyone else.
I was going to post this, and as someone who has to deal with patients on the pharmacy end of things your next comment had me nodding like my life depended on it Grin
WaterOffADucksCrack · 02/11/2020 22:58

That women have been sold the lie of "you can/should have it all". Meaning much of society thinks we should work full time but also do everything around the house plus be responsible for the children as it's soooo difficult for the men who only have to go to work. I don't subscribe to that but many don't have a choice.

Also how people say how amazing it is that we're now less racist. There should be no racism at all!

CaptainCorellisPangolin · 02/11/2020 23:38
  1. Constant advertising. Especially sexualised advertising. It's everywhere and it must be working to an extent if they keep doing it. Who are these people buying perfumes/sofas/yoghurt because there's an almost naked young woman standing next to it?

  2. A lack of questioning our choices. Not just what we do, but why we do it. Comes up a lot in arguments about liberal feminism and radical feminism. Yes, of course it's your choice to wear makeup, but has it not occurred to you that it would be a humongous coincidence when it is overwhelmingly the female half of the population who spend hundreds (sometimes thousands, reading the s&b threads here) on cosmetics, considering that each one is making that choice entirely of their own volition?

  3. Which segues into consumerism. The sheer amount of stuff that people have. The clothes and shoes and makeup and a new phone every year. People are shopping out of boredom.

  4. Lack of nuance in arguments and a tendency toward either extreme. People are desperate for easy answers to complex problems.

  5. An insistence that everything new is better and a sneering attitude toward anyone who, actually, quite likes listening to the radio, for example. There is a sweet spot between a refusal to progress and rapid change with no thought for the people being left behind. Mostly, it is driven by a pervading focus on youth culture.

  6. The dumbing down of everything. A push for everything to be informal. Primarily the fault of social media.

I'm only 30 and I'm too old for this shit.

RedToothBrush · 02/11/2020 23:46

Superficiality.
Wanting everything dumbed down and black and white.
Lack of critical thinking.
Vacuous meaningless virtue signalling rather than getting up of your arse and doing something.
Polarisation of views.
Lack of appreciation for things.
The erosion of justice.

Wearywithteens · 03/11/2020 00:37

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PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 01:40

Selfishness and cruelty and ignorance. Kindness and compassion are seen as weak.

PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 02:39

@justanotherneighinparadise

The unashamed bragging. What happened to being humble? The oneupmanship on who is most worthy of the biggest victim award. I find watching the documentaries about WW2 just so heartbreaking. 16 year olds going off to war for our freedom and yet we’re so disrespectful of their sacrifice and their trauma when they came home. Many never discussed what has happened and yet we have so many people wrong their hands online about the literal violence of words. Shameful.
Equally, ‘you can’t ever be upset about anything because WW2 happened’. WW2 is always used as a way to shut people up. 6 million Jews died at the hands of the Nazis, does that mean I get to tell people to shut up about their problems because at least they’re not choking to death on Zyklon B?
PhilSwagielka · 03/11/2020 02:47

@Jericool

For those in the comments moaning about MH: why don't you just stick us in asylums like you used to? This 'resilience' stuff is a load of BS. If you'd ever been mentally ill yourself maybe you'd understand, but because you're fine you think everyone should be. Judgemental dicks. People like YOU are what I hate
Thank you for saying this.
eaglejulesk · 03/11/2020 03:24

Well said @CaptainCorellisPangolin

Halliehallie9828 · 03/11/2020 03:51

@Jericool

For those in the comments moaning about MH: why don't you just stick us in asylums like you used to? This 'resilience' stuff is a load of BS. If you'd ever been mentally ill yourself maybe you'd understand, but because you're fine you think everyone should be. Judgemental dicks. People like YOU are what I hate
You don’t agree and that’s fine. I don’t personally think it’s BS. Everyone seems to have MH issues now of one type or another because they are unable to cope with having a bad day or are a bit down on their luck. If people stopped being such snowflakes, got on with things and had some resilience then our services wouldn’t be so overwhelmed.
steff13 · 03/11/2020 05:11

People. And also, society.

Rollmopsrule · 03/11/2020 05:24

Halliehallie9828 people like you that throw words like snowflake and resilience around. Just absolutely clueless! On a thread were people are wishing for more kindness and empathy in the world aswell.

Dongdingdong · 03/11/2020 05:58

The idea that things used to be so much better.This news in...nope
I don't know - there were fewer people, fewer vehicles on the roads, fewer dogs and cats, better air quality, less stuff, less pollution

@Caeruleanblue agree with all this except the fewer dogs and cats bit!

blueangel19 · 03/11/2020 06:17

Social media. The negative influence of social media Also, for the influence in elections and young people.

Political correctness going to extreme, cancel culture, collective thinking.

BefuddledPerson · 03/11/2020 06:45

I've thought a lot about this thread. I've decided it is apathy.

The world, and the UK, is fucked, we all know things need to change. We could change them. But we don't.

Bluesheep8 · 03/11/2020 06:59

Selfishness.

Horsemad · 03/11/2020 07:04

@Runningdownthathill

It’s so good to read this thread and realise there are still sane, articulate people around.
This.
Zenithbear · 03/11/2020 07:06

The rat race.
The whole you have to have a career straight away and you can have dc later bollax.
If you do dare to go to work then you can work until you drop dead. Do not dare to try to claim one penny.
Cruelty to children and animals.
People who have had everything handed to them on a plate talking about others less fortunate as if they are scum.
Young women who think their face needs to look like a plastic doll.
Being told what you can laugh at.
Greed.
So many people want perfect lives, relationships, dc, houses, car, jobs etc right now there are no compromises or working towards goals anymore. People don't appreciate what they have.
Competitiveness.
Narcissism.
Environmental damage and destruction.

TheJourneyWoman · 03/11/2020 07:06

Identity politics.

Cancel culture.

The depressing focus on women's and girls looks to the exclusion of all else about them. It's always been like that to a certain extent but The Kardashians and their ilk really seem to have set it on stone that this is what it is to be female.

Caeruleanblue · 03/11/2020 07:09

Young women who think their face needs to look like a plastic doll
It's not just women. - but given a choice between. a shiny botoxed mask and Mary Beard I'd watch Mary every time.

Mummadeeze · 03/11/2020 07:18

Probably addiction to mobile phone use. I am stuck to mine too but realise I would be a better parent, more interesting person and would definitely have more varied and creative thoughts if I gave it up.

Laughingcrow · 03/11/2020 07:21

The constant moaning and entitlement and the new helicopter parenting I have encountered. I'm 28 and most of the mums I know worry about every little thing but at the same time don't try to find anything out... Actually we have Google and knowledge to no end at our fingertips yet not many people think to go and have a look if they aren't sure about anything... Drives me crackers. Instead they ask a hundred people and still say oh I'm not sure... Or turn to Facebook for advice to be then told to use Google Hmm