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What do you dislike most about today's society?

263 replies

RUNFAST11 · 01/11/2020 18:34

For me this society has made good steps i.e. gender equality, fight against racism and speaking out on mental health.

However, there are aspects which I dislike.

  1. Posting everything on social media (nowadays a lot of people feel like they need to post everything on social media which can be dangerous as someone who is not close to you can know important details of your life)

  2. Consumerism (wanting new things, latest stuff etc..) I think see this especially with children who want what their friends have such as the latest phone, shoes, laptop etc..

  3. The world is more individualistic rather than collectivist (Before we used to check up on our elderly relatives, neighbours and would have a chat to people say who we saw outside.) Another example is bashing people on benefits, free school meals rather than helping these individuals some see them as scroungers which is totally wrong.

  4. Too much hypocrisy (We see people making campaigns like #BeKind but they are the same people who bully others.)

  5. We need to teach more real life things from an early age that impacts everyone (i.e. cooking, finance, savings etc..)

OP posts:
GlummyMcGlummerson · 01/11/2020 20:49

People thinking the rules don't apply to them.
I know someone who breaks every rule - yes they're small ones but it's annoying. Eg takes pictures at the theatre, uses the showers at swimming when she's been asked not to due to COVID, expects the school to bend to her children's whims - such as not take part in PE because they don't like it, take in juice even though it's banned in school, having her mum come round every day of lock down to babysit because it's too hard to work from home and look after her kids. Because no one else had to do that this year Hmm

It's everywhere, nobody wants to just fall in line because they're so special they need to be an exception

dublingirl66 · 01/11/2020 20:49

That men think abuse in relationships is normal

The women are objects for them

That Rey has full rights over a woman's body and can even go as far as abusing her in pregnancy

pigcon1 · 01/11/2020 20:54

Inequality

Doodiesbear · 01/11/2020 20:58

That no one takes responsibility for anything anymore. There's always an excuse it's not their fault or someone or something else to blame. People confusing fault and responsibilities. Something might not necessarily be your fault but still be your responsibility to deal with.
People expecting their views to be respected and their wants and needs to be met, but totally unwilling to compromise even in the slightest so that other people's views are also respected and so their needs and wants can be met.

That some people's wants are considered far more important than other persons needs.

The general attitude towards jobs that are traditionally low income but also at the same time essential to a functional society. The belief that they're not worth enough to have a decent enough wage to live on, yet despised for having benefits top that income up. While society continues to use these services on a daily basis to facilitate their own lives, to care for their elderly relatives and children, to serve them in shops and demand the highest behaviour and service from them at the same time.

That absent parents (mainly men) are excused from any parental responsibility for their children, financially or otherwise in favour of solely blaming the woman, vilifying single mothers as sluts who should have kept their legs shut and just wanting to milk a poor man of his money.

ForthPlace · 01/11/2020 20:58

@jericool

For those in the comments moaning about MH: why don't you just stick us in asylums like you used to? This 'resilience' stuff is a load of BS. If you'd ever been mentally ill yourself maybe you'd understand, but because you're fine you think everyone should be. Judgemental dicks. People like YOU are what I hate

I think you are all saying the same thing. Genuine MH illnesses are different to everyone claiming to have MH issues. Surely if you have MH issues, the fact that 'everyone' seems to have too does the genuine a disservice. Not sure if I'm explaining well enough.

One of my DS's said he had MH issues, a huge drama, yet not something he'd suffered from before. I asked, listened...turned out he wasn't getting on with his uni work...just a bit unfocused. When I said...to him "mmm? Mental health issues? ...do you mean lazy? ...after a couple days thinking about it, he admitted I was right. MH my arse, too many late nights, too many late mornings and a procrastinator. He needed to have some resilience in organising himself and some focus to get his work done. Not MH issues and really wrong of him to claim that.

Stripesnomore · 01/11/2020 20:59

Some of the things mentioned on here strike a chord because they are vices I dislike about myself rather than society as a whole... consumerism, selfishness, social media.

Stripesnomore · 01/11/2020 21:03

Forth, your son should talk to a doctor or other HCP who doesn’t know him personally. All the things you have described do sounds like classic symptoms of a mental health problem.

Notnownotneverever · 01/11/2020 21:04

The general inability to focus on the present. Constant checking of phones, social media and taking phone calls when people are with others. It is sad that a person cannot go out to meet with someone else and pay full attention to them for the whole time they are with them. It makes the person you are with feel less valued I think.

MrDarcysMa · 01/11/2020 21:06

Instagram influencer culture and grown women using filters to make themselves look like children

SaltandPepperIt · 01/11/2020 21:07

The normalising of pornograhy. You are made to feel you are wrong/narrow minded/old fashioned of you think it's revolting and insidiously ruining young minds.

Also dislike the older generation mocking and patronising the young like trump did with Greta Thunberg. Not sure his or my generation did much to stop the earth dying. I certainly didn't in my youth. They deserve more respect

SpeccyLime · 01/11/2020 21:07

The transphobia

D4rwin · 01/11/2020 21:07

The whole ridiculous disconnect with the real world and everything being completepy fake and meaningless.

ForthPlace · 01/11/2020 21:08

stripes...no, this was a while ago, he laughed about it...he looked at his party life and knuckled down.

Must say, I was the same...recognise a bit of procrastination ...anything but do my work!

See, what I mean though...mush have MH issues...course he hadn't. Bloody lazy and a kick up the rear...,😂

catlovingdoctor · 01/11/2020 21:11

General sense of entitlement. Absolutely despise it.

Stripesnomore · 01/11/2020 21:14

I didn’t say he must have mental health problems, but factually disrupted sleeping pattern, lack of concentration, not completing tasks, lack of interest in work and studies, procrastination, those are all standard signs of the most common mental health problems.

Misinterpreting what other people are saying, as in you thinking me saying they are symptoms means that he must have a mental health problem. Well, that’s magical thinking, where you make assumptions about what someone else thinks. That’s not a symptom, but it is a vulnerability to mental health issues that can be dealt with through CBT.

user1471538283 · 01/11/2020 21:20

Entitlement, selfishness and hypocrisy. But god forbid they should be called out on their anti social behaviour ...

diggadoo · 01/11/2020 21:20

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Youandmeareluckytobeus · 01/11/2020 21:22

People's sense of entitlement.
Lack of resilience.
Consumerism.
Obsession with talentless celebrities.
The instant society - many people don't want to work hard to achieve their dreams. They just want things to fall into their lap without putting the effort in.
Social media.

saltedkiss · 01/11/2020 21:23

The fact that we still victim blame people on benefits, rather than vote to change the successive governments that have created the conditions for this to happen.

A belief that if you shout loudly and complain enough times that you will get your way.

Parents publicly deriding schools or, even worse, individual teachers, on social media or WhatsApp groups. I see it all the time and I think it's so rude and absolutely disgraceful. I'm not saying schools and teachers should be immune to questioning but I've seen damaging gossip about teachers' private lives and a real crowd mentality form if one parent doesn't like a particular teacher, which has irreparably damaged relationships between the teacher and their class.

The fact that rudeness has been normalised as "being honest", "speaking your mind" and "standing up for what you believe in".

People seeing the world through their individualistic lens rather than accepting that sometimes you should act a particular way for the benefit of others.

The hypocrisy of the people behind the #bekind movement, who were then also the ones slating Chris Whitty's appearance on social media.

Stripesnomore · 01/11/2020 21:25

Forth, and sorry I am being a bit of an arsehole to you. I seem to have come on this thread to personally behave in ways that demonstrate what is currently wrong with society.

sst1234 · 01/11/2020 21:27

People typing on their smartphones that they hate consumerism. People harping on about how it was great in the good old days, when actually if you speak to the people who lived through the good old days, they tell you horror stories about lack of choice, poor food quality, blackouts. In short, it’s so tedious, how everyone’s a socialist - until they can’t get an iPhone, that is.

furrypesto · 01/11/2020 21:32

I think the exchange between ForthPlace and Stripesnomore actually highlights the issue being brought up. Yes, those symptoms can indicate mental health problems if they are persistent but they can also indicate someone going through a perfectly normal stressful time which then resolves. This is otherwise known as life. I have very complex, severe mental health problems and actually I do get fed up with people wanting to label quite normal reactions to normal life stresses as 'mental illness' so that the term is beginning to become almost meaningless. It's like we simultaneously have more openness around mental health issues which is good but that people have become hyper aware and maybe have unrealistic expectations of life so that all bouts of insomnia, upset, low mood in their mind indicates a mental health issue.

So I really get where jericool is coming from but I also think it's to do with a watering down of what it actually means to have a mental health disorder because normal human emotions have been pathologised to an insane degree.

MilkshakeandChips5 · 01/11/2020 21:48

@furrypesto

I think the exchange between ForthPlace and Stripesnomore actually highlights the issue being brought up. Yes, those symptoms can indicate mental health problems if they are persistent but they can also indicate someone going through a perfectly normal stressful time which then resolves. This is otherwise known as life. I have very complex, severe mental health problems and actually I do get fed up with people wanting to label quite normal reactions to normal life stresses as 'mental illness' so that the term is beginning to become almost meaningless. It's like we simultaneously have more openness around mental health issues which is good but that people have become hyper aware and maybe have unrealistic expectations of life so that all bouts of insomnia, upset, low mood in their mind indicates a mental health issue.

So I really get where jericool is coming from but I also think it's to do with a watering down of what it actually means to have a mental health disorder because normal human emotions have been pathologised to an insane degree.

I 100% agree with this. I work for a Company that places significant focus on Mental Health and was lucky enough to join a talk by a Doctor who specialises in resilience on how to differentiate life and the stress that comes with that with Mental Health as an illness. Life is stressful. Shit happens that isn't always nice and that can make you feel anxious or disrupt your sleep or like your heart is heavy. Mental wellbeing and health feel different to me.

That being said, I am equally guilty of being impatient when feeling all of the above.

Pedallleur · 01/11/2020 21:52

Everything you've all mentioned. But really social media, celebrity culture (an oxymoron right there) and obsession with appearance, as tho you could be on the tv v.soon really grinds me.

SpookyPants · 01/11/2020 21:52

I immediately thought of social media.