I'm sick of people from Northern England who voted tory complaining on the news

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Suck it up. You voted for them. No one made you.

Everyone is entitled to have a moan, but seriously, WHY WHY WHY did you ever vote tory thinking they'd got your back?!?!

The funny thing is, come January when Brexit is a fate worse than death, no one will be able to blame it on Labour.

I’m weirdly looking forward to the sudden realisation of what a stupid idea it was. And then I’ll be donating and volunteering in as many food banks as I can, because they’re going to be inundated.

Labour weren't promising to stop Brexit were they?

"Next time, educate yourself and vote for the party that will actually support you"

Does it ever occur to you that they did just that?

@Miljea

I read the OP and, like many, thought 'this won't go well' 😂-

But, I understand the sentiment.

I cannot fathom why any traditional Labour voter in a Thatcher decimated, chronically under-invested, poorly educated, austerity riven north of England town would imagine in their wildest dreams that any Tory would have their interests at heart.

How much history do you need?

I agree. However, I don’t think that just because you voted for someone, you don’t get to complain.

@torquewench well more fool them for believing Tory lies. Did we not learn anything from history?!

Anyone with half a brain can see that Boris is a self serving buffoon with no interest in helping the regular person.

Compared to Corbyn who had decades of doing the right thing... look beyond the headlines - created by Boris’ media mates and educate yourself on voting records etc.

Not saying Corbyn was the ideal candidate but he’s a damn site better than what we currently have running our country.

You make you bed. You lie in it.

This year, more than ever, has made me resigned to how people only think about themselves - fighting over toilet paper anyone?! - and that is why Boris got into power. If we want out of this mess, we need to worth together.

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God the ‘working class’ North stereotypes on this thread. I’m in the North and I reluctantly voted labour. I’m glad they didn’t get in - I didn’t want Corbyn as PM, but they have learnt nothing from why they lost. Keir Starmer is I think trying to turn the party around but there’s a strong momentum streak still running through it.

1. Everyone didn't vote Tory
2. Everyone isn't working class
3. Labour was tone deaf and treated their usual voters with contempt
4. I haven't heard anyone who voted Tory for the first time complain that they would have rather had a Corbyn government

I don't suppose any of that will get in the way of your opinion though

Well, they say that if you don’t vote you can’t complain. So actually voting gives people the right to complain....

And truth is that no-one knows what labour would have done here. The hypotheticals are all very well, but there isn’t a government in the world who haven’t been criticised for their position on COVID, so just because ours haven’t done what people think the opposition would have, doesn’t mean the opposition would have done it.

When one party criticises another it is generally all about political point scoring and nothing more. Labour are quick to shout “you shouldn’t be doing x or y,” but nowhere have labour come up with an actual plan as to what should be done.

And FWIW I didn’t vote for either of them, but while on MN people seem to think that only the stupid and hard of thinking voted Tory, out there in the real world the overwhelming majority of people who voted voted for them, to the extent they claimed a landslide victory. People might not like it, but clearly labour aren’t all that if most people don’t want to vote for them, even people who previously were in labour strongholds.

God the ‘working class’ North stereotypes on this thread

It's all a bit whippets and caps 🙄

This attitude that the voters vote the wrong way is very damaging for the parties engaging in it.

It’s not the voters who vote wrong, it’s you fit not offering then something to vote for.

Thing is globally EVERY country is struggling with covid but apparently our labour government could handle it better.
Every decision always comes down to money very very easy to ask for things when it's not you who going to have to finance it .

It’s up to people from ‘northern England’ to keep the Tories out is it?

Look at the map. Most of the remaining red is in the north.

rwalker The Tories had a choice of 11 people to be leader. Almost all of the other 10, especially Jeremy Hunt, would have done a better job and thousands fewer would be dead.

There would have been fewer deaths under a Labour government, if only because Jeremy Corbyn would have acted quicker under trade union pressure.

The funny thing is, come January when Brexit is a fate worse than death, no one will be able to blame it on Labour.

Believe me, they will try. It will be Corbyn’s fault naturally 😂

I agree with you OP, I don’t understand why working class people though this government would ever look out for them.

What? The whole of the North of England is working class? All of it? Everywhere? I didn't know that.

@dadumb well, I remember my dad being devastated when Gordon Brown helped himself to half of the pension that he'd worked 40+ years in a heavy manual labour factory job to save for. He'd "made his own bed" and it was pulled from under him by Labour.

because of the demise of the working man's clubs
and jeremy corbyn

we are all middle class now

I'm northern and I voted labour. Can I moan?

What about my sister who's from the south and voted Tory?

It was the Brexit brain-washing project that did it.

I have family in Doncaster/Chesterfield, all changed from Labour to Tory because BJ will ‘get brexit done’.

Completely agree w you OP.
You vote Tory - you reap what you sew I'm afraid 🤷🏼‍♀️

And to make it clearer, I don't mean loyal tory voters, you are beyond help

😂😂😂

Labour let them down. Many loyal labour voters in the north watched a party that used to know who they represented lose the focus of what they were and what they wanted. I'm a historic labour voter, but the party hasn't a clue whatnot is at the moment, I didn't vote for them at the last election (nor did I vote blue).

It's not just Tory / labour as options for voting you know. And dismissing what are real societal problems coming from the polarisation of politics like this is a ridiculous strategy. You don't win hearts and minds and make change by berating people.

1. Not Everyone in ‘the North’ voted Tory
2. Not Everyone in ‘the North’ is working class.

‘The North’ isn’t so different to your precious south, we have naice places, we have run down places, we have middle class and working class people and plenty in between. Just like ‘the South’.

I think promoting this devision is a harmful to our country and completely not needed when everyone of us is struggling in our own way through this crisis, we need to unite not blame each other and allow the divide to grow wider.
If it makes my word more valid to you: I am from Yorkshire, I voted labour and prayed enough others nationwide would too.