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I'm sick of people from Northern England who voted tory complaining on the news

557 replies

ssd · 27/10/2020 22:54

Suck it up. You voted for them. No one made you.

Everyone is entitled to have a moan, but seriously, WHY WHY WHY did you ever vote tory thinking they'd got your back?!?!

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Keeping2ChevronsApart · 27/10/2020 23:18

@ssd

And to make it clearer, I don't mean loyal tory voters, you are beyond help, I mean traditional Labour voters who thought Boris was their man.
Ah yes good old Tony Blair, he did so much for us.
MelodramPatheticism · 27/10/2020 23:19

They voted tory because they were that scared of Corbyn being the next pm. I blame Corbyn for this mess. He should have resigned long before the election and given Labour a proper chance.

GirlCrush · 27/10/2020 23:19

@R1R2 is there really any need for that? I didnt actually read your post beyond the rudeness so no idea if what you say is even valid!

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 27/10/2020 23:20

I'm always amazed that any working class person, no matter where they live, ever votes for the Tories. Why did they think Johnson and his cronies were on their side? He's a known charlatan and liar, among other things. And Cummings?? Gove?? Ffs. I was desperately disappointed and frankly, angry last December when they won by such a large majority and for a while I thought the people who voted for them deserved everything coming to them. However, I still have my strong beliefs and principles so do have a lot of sympathy for them, especially the children. I just hope they remember how they've been treated when the next general election comes round.

Ginfordinner · 27/10/2020 23:21

I'm in South Yorkshire which is usually a swathe of red, but we now have a Tory MP Sad, who has voted against anything positive she could have done for her constituents.

Our labour MP resgined from the labour party and decamped to another constituency just before the election, so we had a new labour candidate that no-one knew anything about. The Lib Dem candidate has done more for this constitiency than the Tory MP.

Miljea · 27/10/2020 23:21

I reported R1R2 myself. Maybe the 'poorly educated' remark hit home? 😉

Ginfordinner · 27/10/2020 23:22

I didn't vote Tory BTW, but I think people voted Tory because they felt there was no viable alternative.

Miljea · 27/10/2020 23:23

One could have spoiled one's ballot! Your 'enemy's enemy' is not your friend!

R1R2 · 27/10/2020 23:25

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Inkpaperstars · 27/10/2020 23:28

Well, at the time those who was asked often mentioned Brexit. They also even more often mentioned Corbyn, some particularly referencing his IRA sympathising. Labour did not offer a viable alternative. The Tories were laughing because even a hint of an effective opposition and they would have been out, but Labour failed to be that.

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Iamthewombat · 27/10/2020 23:33

Is this ‘straight talking Maureen from Barnsley’, whose opinions we have been treated to this week?

jcyclops · 27/10/2020 23:38

I agree that there seems to be a lot of northern Conservatives having a moan on TV at the moment. It is very striking, however, that none of them seem to be wishing they had voted Labour.

GirlCrush · 27/10/2020 23:44

@R1R2 what are you trying to say? i've just come back to find everything you've said has been hidden by MNHQ

sally067 · 27/10/2020 23:46

They made their bed, they'll have to suck it up. So weird how they thought a party funded mostly by billionaires would represent them better than a party which is mostly funded by organisations that represent 14 million nurses, postmen, office workers, etc.

Would have thought 10 years of austerity would have shown them what Tories think of working people but somehow they fell for the classic trick that a new leader = a completely different government. All tory governments are they same, it's their basic ideology.

Brexit to a lot of people is (was?) more important than anything else too, yougov polling showed that a lot of people would have happily had their children's livelihoods destroyed in order to get Brexit done. They asked for it.

Purpledaisychain · 27/10/2020 23:48

You do know that not everybody in the North voted tory don't you?

And that people in the south also voted tory?

MadameBlobby · 27/10/2020 23:49

YANBU

Remember they told us “they knew what they were voting for” well it turns out this was it!

BrummyMum1 · 27/10/2020 23:50

If you can’t complain in the middle of a global pandemic when can you complain? Regardless of where you live or who you voted for you are allowed to complain in my opinion.

Purpledaisychain · 27/10/2020 23:53

@MadameBlobby

No one knew that they were voting for a government to lead us through a pandemic. Confused How could we?

I voted labour, more out of loyalty than out of any love for Corbyn. As rubbish as Bojo is, I dont think he would have been any better. During the vote, we were stuck between a rock and a hard place in terms of the two party leaders.

Gettinggrumpier · 27/10/2020 23:54

@R1R2

Because labour had done so fucking much for them the past 20-30+ years they had held those seats
This, with bells on.

The Conservatives, made coucils sell off their social housing. Did Labour in their decade plus of power stop it? Did Labour build back up the levels? No of course not, because too many of the MPs of all persuasions were making a nice bit of money being private landlords.

Labour got rid of nearly all the grammar school's, helped with social mobility as it did with me. However, when it came to their own children, MPs like Blair, Abbott and Thornberry, ensured that their children didn't go to the local comprehensive, but instead went to the best selective schools.

Labour has done nothing of consequence for their Northern heartlands and took them for granted. If the Conservatives take them for granted there won't be much difference then.

MySoCalledLife · 27/10/2020 23:54

I'm in Liverpool, we didn't vote Tory.

Or for Brexit for that matter.

We're not that daft, despite popular opinion Grin

So if I want to have a good moan I'll crack on...

user1471448866 · 27/10/2020 23:55

@ssd

Suck it up. You voted for them. No one made you.

Everyone is entitled to have a moan, but seriously, WHY WHY WHY did you ever vote tory thinking they'd got your back?!?!

Maybe you would be better off asking why people who have never ever voted Conservative in their life did so in the last election. I have never voted Conservative in my life but know many people who did so in the last election and to be honest “suck it up” has to be one of the most childish responses I have ever seen.Why don’t you want to consider why traditional Labour areas didn’t feel able to vote Labour in the last election? Why don’t you want to think about what the Labour Party has to do to appeal to these previously die hard Labour areas that voted Conservative ? Sixth form politics of ‘suck it up’ may appeal to The politically illiterate but the fact is that the Labour part failed spectacularly to appeal to vast swathes of the North ( and in fact didn’t even make any attempt to do so). Perhaps the reality is that ‘the North’ has woken up to the reality that no one in Parliament has their back - that is certainly the overwhelming view of people I know.
Purpledaisychain · 28/10/2020 00:01

Actually, the South has more blue areas than the North. The way you are carrying on, OP, makes it sound like the South is all red.

PickAChew · 28/10/2020 00:02

We didn't all vote tory.

Chloemol · 28/10/2020 00:03

I am sick of the leftist Tory bashing shit that appears on this site in a regular basis

Like Labour are any good, Kier swings about in the wind just like Jeremy did

Never mind I look forward to the forming of the MN party, for the next election, then you can all get in as MPs , form a Government and run the country as you think fit, as many of you all believe you know what’s best