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People not understanding what no deal actually means?

493 replies

flashbac · 21/10/2020 01:15

Do you understand what it means? For food prices, crime enforcement, things that affect you?
Think we can just trade with the rest of the world come January? Easy as that? Do WTO rules ring a bell? Pound crashing?
Or do you think sunlit uplands await you?

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NanyangParkway · 24/10/2020 03:18

@yellowishzebra

I’m amazed that the conversation in a country like the UK can include “It’s not great but I can get by on my 40 or so Swedes, and perhaps swap some.” Or in other words, how some ignorant Brexit-voting clowns inched the country closer to the siege of Leningrad ..:)

rhib2 · 24/10/2020 06:19

Very few people understand the complexity of Customs Freight clearance procedures and despite having had some years to prepare the Government have done bugger all. Now , with just weeks to go they have begun the blame game and are warning businesses to 'Be Ready'.
They got rid of thousands of Customs employees as soon as they could and now have no-one with any experience to help sort out the mess.
I think they were relying on having a 2nd vote to remain......
we are in for a hard time

Localocal · 24/10/2020 08:40

@RunBackwards , exactly.

It's a complete and permanent catastrophe. I know everyone hates bankers, but they pay a huge proportion of the taxes that pay for our services, so throwing away our position as the financial capital of Europe is fiscal suicide. That's gone, now, no matter what deal we finally end up with, and so is a huge chunk of tax revenue with it.

Agriculture, tourism, hospitality, entertainment, manufacturing - you name it. All are going to suffer from barriers to movement. It's going to suck and our children will inherit a poorer and more fractious country.

Plus covid.

Clareflairmare · 24/10/2020 08:43

I'm livid with anyone who voted Brexit. I'll hold them culpable until I die. It was an unforgivable stupidity. If you don't understand how bad this you had no business voting and effecting the life chances of my children.

DameFanny · 24/10/2020 08:55

@SurroundedByIdiotsEverywhere

Ignore the remoaners/remainers, they are still very bitter losing over 4 years ago...

They think we will be living in caves soon, they are pathetic and boring!

If you think that's what's going on you are very, very dim
Peregrina · 24/10/2020 10:21

I'm livid with anyone who voted Brexit.

I am more livid with those who put Boris Johnson's Tories in. Back in 2016 a lot of people thought we would probably have an EEA type agreement like Norway, Iceland and don't forget Liechtenstein, which would have suited many, Remain voters included.

By December 2019 people knew that Johnson had illegally prorogued Parliament and had chased the moderate Tories out of the party. So they knew exactly what he was like, and these are the ones that I am livid with.

Luddite26 · 24/10/2020 13:17

Yes i will never get over people giving that lieing philanderer the keys to no 10 with a huge red carpet rolled out.
Many elections over the years i have sat up and watched the results. even in 1992 while living in bed and vreakfast accomodation as a homeless single mum. I have never cried . Last December i cried for hours and drank myself to sleep with the help of disarrono.
I turned my back on hope and politics that night. Still can't believe what has happened. Even this morning saying they have done enough to help struggling families. Absolutely shameful.

Rapunzathepenguin · 24/10/2020 15:53

I've cried many times at the results of our supposedly democratic elections. Last December I was furious beyond words with the witless, selfish, self-centred, materialistic self-justifying short-sighted golems who voted this lot into power, or allowed them into power.

They won't understand what they've done until they and their kids and dependents are starving in a ditch somewhere. And even then they'll probably go on about what a wonderful approachable PM jolly BJ the Clown and his bunch of trainee clowns make. I just hope to God karma kicks in, but it infuriates me that the rest of us have to suffer until we can get out. England, for me, is pretty much finished. I'm praying for a Biden win, not just because Trump is a sexist, racist, lying, harassing, piece of Dreck, but because with any luck he'll also tell the English government where to stick that "special relationship" they drivel on about.

(Here's something that might strike a note with some of those of you who voted Leave - you do know it's extremely likely it'll add quite a lot of waiting time at passport control in airports as you toddle off to your second or third homes or your "business" abroad, right?

Now just imagine what it's going to do to fresh food and other imports, and then go and take a look at where most fresh food comes from, at your local Tesco or whatever. Then have a look at what actually grows in Britain. Although I'm sure the Magic Turnip Pots currently being cultivated on balconies and postage stamp gardens all around the land will evidently feed us all forever.

That's before even looking at where raw ingredients come from, or components for medicine like, ooh, insulin, and our lack of skills and infrastructure in this country to make many of our own medications.

Still, I'm sure one of the usual suspects will be along very shortly to tell us that Magic Mushrooms plc ("Medication to Die For"TM) is going to be slapped up overnight right next to the Garden of Kent Nigel Farage Memorial Car Park, the Katie Hopkins Charm School, and the Unicorn Sanctuary, while apparently Teesside is going to be redesignated as a tax haven.

flashbac · 24/10/2020 17:45

*Ignore the remoaners/remainers, they are still very bitter losing over 4 years ago...

They think we will be living in caves soon, they are pathetic and boring!*

How very ignorant and childish. Do you believe the Earth is flat too? What is pathetic is the inability to see where we are heading. But good old English bulldog spirit will force our fresh foods and medicines through will it?

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goldenharvest · 24/10/2020 19:18

My crystal ball is hazy, so please illuminate me.....

rorosemary · 24/10/2020 19:33

@rashalert

What do you think Glaxo and Smith Cline Make? They make, amongst other things, insulin.

Stop this dreadful scare-mongering-worrying diabetics sick.

It is uncalled for.*

I can't see any evidence that they make insulin. They make diabetes medicin, yes, but I can't find what insulin they make. Can you enlighten me please? Type 1's die without insulin.

frumpety · 24/10/2020 19:43

Let's hope the governments is a bit clearer @goldenharvest , given there are only a couple of months left to get things organised for a no deal end to transition. The fact they haven't and it is blatantly clear that they haven't, would hopefully suggest they are going to blink at the last moment.

Rapunzathepenguin · 24/10/2020 22:19

I'm not scare mongering, thank you.

I have a very close friend who is a Type I diabetic. Many of the reasons I was against leaving the EU were based on the origin of food and ingredients for medications.

www.diabetes.org.uk/about_us/news/insulin-brexit outlines the main manufacturers of insulin in the UK. Of course this was pre-pandemic, so who knows, perhaps our amazing government might have come up with a magic solution in the 2+ years since. And for the skills required to produce insulin, maybe they can just retrain a few ballet dancers and chefs.

NanyangParkway · 25/10/2020 01:24

I know! Completely bonkers. Turning 'The garden of England' into a truck stop too.. the Swede-eating traffic jam that awaits, all benefits undreamt of in 2016!

longwayoff · 25/10/2020 05:19

Perfect. The Farage Garage, a lasting memorial to the man who brought the people of Kent the freedom they devoutly wished for, along with so many others. I expect they'll be delighted they've brought this on themselves and thrilled to have the evidence of their decision making right on their doorstep every day. Feel unable to share their joy though. Stock up on everything.

flashbac · 25/10/2020 10:17

BJ might be waiting to see who wins US election:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/24/johnson-will-wait-for-us-election-result-before-no-deal-brexit-decision

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Havanananana · 25/10/2020 11:30

Brexit: Business group warns prices of items may rise by 'almost a third'

The cost of some everyday items may rise by almost a third (30%) under a no-deal Brexit, a business group has warned, as the UK and EU move closer and closer to the deadline for negotiation

Items could become “much more expensive,” with the potential hit of tariffs and rising inflation, Logistics UK said

The group’s head David Wells wrote to the Sunday Times, urging prime minister Boris Johnson to work towards an agreement

www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-business-group-warns-prices-of-items-may-rise-by-almost-a-third/ar-BB1an9yy?ocid=msedgntp

KooKooKachu · 25/10/2020 15:10

@Havanananana I posted that article on my SM. The Leave voters I know are strangely quiet on the matter. No shouting their joy from the rooftops. How strange.

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