Circuit break in england?

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Do you think boris will announce one by the end of the week? It would make sense to coincide with schools half term.
I think we need one, cases rising everywhere with the potential of higher death rates.
All these tier lockdowns are rubbish and confusing imo a 2 week circuit break is the best way forward to keep things under some control.

Too little too late for a circuit break - SAGE were suggesting one several weeks ago at a point when it may have had an impact. It would have little effect given how the pace of transmission has increased.

So do we just standby and let the virus get out of control?

If 2 weeks was a suitable timeframe to turn things around, how come the first lockdown was so long? I think if it was 2 weeks there might be a certain level of compliance, but I dont think a lot of people (and businesses) will have the mental or financial ability to deal with an open ended lockdown.

I dont like the term circuit break, it's misleading and gives some excitable people the idea it will fix the situation and 'reset it'.

There is just no point in having huge areas in the South in lockdown when cases are low. Yes Wales is doing a lockdown but it has a population of 3m, the northwest of England has 7m where there are supposed to be tighter restrictions. Makes more sense for England to have a targeted approach.

I wish on the news they would point out that comparing England to Wales or Scotland is pointless. They are, population size wise, more like counties.

Compliance is key. Some people have got so complacent. They need to get these covid marshals out that were mentioned a couple of weeks ago.

Boris needs to take action not just keep giving out confusing information that even his own party can't get to grips with.

I keep hearing this two week circuit breaker but never what it will achieve. Two weeks will achieve very little without other strategies being put in place. We don’t seem to have any, it will end up having to continue for months.

We broke up on Friday for two weeks so I doubt it. It would have been more sensible to start the circuit break yesterday to cover half term break.

It’s pointless. 2 weeks does nothing for the virus and damages the economy further. Really hope Boris doesn’t cave on this.

I doubt that Johnson will do a circuit breaker but he definitely should do. Once again, we'll be far too late to react. Once again, far too many people will lose family members, and we'll end up having a far longer lockdown in November/December.

It's ridiculous. Keeping numbers of cases low, using test and trace properly is the key to being able to open everything up again much faster than these late measures all the time.

I don’t think he will. I think Starmer has backed him into a corner by supporting one. Boris won’t do something like this so soon after Labour suggested it. Maybe in a little while when he can say “when labour suggested it, it wasn’t necessary. It is now”.

Some English schools are already starting half term this week. Some for two weeks, others for one. Others start it next week.

If they were going to do they should have been organised and made it span half terms where possible, at least the most common weeks. They've left it too late to do that now.

If a two week lockdown circuit break will solve anything, why did the first lockdown limp on for 3-6 months (depending on how much time it screwed your circumstances over for).

What magical event will occur in two weeks that will solve anything.

Awaits some bright spark in some quango to suggest activating some nuclear weapons, both anhilating Covid and making sure that the number of Sadly Covid Deaths is a low proportion.
I think I'm being sarcastic, but this is 2020 and we seem to be aiming for economic and social anhilation anyway and it's about the right kind of disutopian policy that sounds like it should be fiction.

No but there will have to be one November at some point as the numbers keep growing. They’ll watch what effect NI/Wales has and then act accordingly in England. They won’t make it to Christmas holidays that’s for sure.

For those who question the need for a circuit break in England Jeremy Farrar explained it very well on Sky with Sophie Ridge this am if it’s possible to rewatch it. He’s an excellent communicator.

It's a tough one... I'm in an area of the (rural) Midlands that has had 62 cases in a week...
Bringing in lockdown somewhere like here is likely to cause more damage to smalk businesses than covid is currently.
That said, it's very selfish to think that because we are lucky, we shouldn't implement things which will keep others safe.

I'll abide by what I'm told, and be glad I don't need to make this sort of decision.

The public will not buy in to lockdown again, as it is there is very little compliance. The government has lost all trust and people have lost faith that any measures will actually work. People would do it with the expectation of back to normal after 2 weeks and when that doesn't happen things will turn nasty.

And typically, if they DO do it, it's being left v late and giving little notice. As others have said, half term varies so whenever they call it, schools will be asked to switch to remote learning with no notice. We're (private small school) well into it and use Teams throughout even when in school, but DS's state school is just starting to get sorted and doubt they'd be up and running effectively in a week. Again, missed opportunities from Gov to get funding and training place earlier.

At a guess having watched what Jeremy had to say I think Gov will sweeten the next lot of restrictions coming with good news re vaccine coming Q1 21. Seems like Cummings style.

Already half term here. They had fucking months to get test and trace working and they fucked that up... what do you think they're going to do in a fortnight?! It'll be a month... then another month... then more contracts thrown at Boris's buddies.

The most this lot of fuckwits will achieve in a fortnight is another shitty 3 part slogan and change the colour scheme on the press conference podiums again.

A business has to cover all the overheads for those two weeks and if grants / loans are running low they’ll close.

And then you have truing to get people to stay at home and not do other things during a holiday like meet people.

It’s a tough thing to do

What's going to happen with wages with a two week lockdown?
Two weeks worth of furlow across the board again?

There is no point in having a circuit break - it will just damage the economy further and once it’s over cases will start to rise again. People are also not going to comply with further restrictions, everyone has had enough!

We need to settle down and find a way to live with it not keep shutting the whole fucking country down.

I think there should be circuit breaker lockdowns instead of these wishy washy rules that change every five minutes. It seems to make more sense to plan to have things fully open with normal opening times for a time to allow normality for the economy, people’s mental heath and some sense of normality, and then have two to three week circuit breakers as needed where everything possible closes and movement is completely restricted.

The certainty of knowing that both lockdown and normality would happen would enable schools to plan properly for closures, we could open up hospitality and entertainment places properly and then fund their closures, we could take advantage of everything that has already been set up for as many jobs as possible to be done from home. And people’s self employment and mental health would cope better knowing that life was only on hold for a short time and would function as normal (with masks etc) the rest of the time.

I think Keir fucked it by demanding one.
Now Boris can’t capitulate.