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Dealing with a toxic EX, Am I being unreasonable?

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Hover93 · 16/10/2020 10:32

Ladies, I need your help. Me and my ex partner split up some time ago, we have 2 children together and we get on really well, have a good relationship co- parenting our girls and still being friends.

We both have new partners now, my new partner has 4 children two boys aged 15 and 13 and two girls ages 6 and 5. The boys are older an dont really like staying over they want to be on there computers or seeing their friends/girlfriends typical teenage boys however, the girls we have stay over.

This is where it gets difficult and I need advice regarding his difficult ex.

So we have his girls every Wednesday over night an take them school the next day and then give them tea on Thursday before taking them home and then we don't have them again untill the following Wednesday but then that week we have them Wednesday night, Friday night, Saturday night an take them home Sunday night. So basically every other weekend we have them all weekend. But still 8 times over the month. We told his ex we would start bringing the girls back at 2pm every Sunday so we had a couple of hours break before my girls came home an we had work the next day. But she refused an said we cannot bring them home untill bedtime as shes out and made plans as thats her weekend and its our problem to sort them.

My girls stay at there dads every Saturday night and sometimes 1 night in the week depending on what shifts he works. My partner has started a new job now which also requires him to work away some weeks, we have asked his ex if we can change the days having the girls from ever other full weekend to every Friday night instead. This would mean every Wednesday and Friday they stay with us, he even asked his mother if every other Saturday she would have the girls so his ex could still have a full weekend with no girls. The reason we wanted to change is because of his new job for one but also because the way it fell it meant we only had 2 days a month with no children to be able to do anything, I may sound like I'm being selfish but everybody needs some time especially new relationships.

Basically his ex has refused an said it doesnt suit her and the girls are in a routine with every other full weekend and thats how its staying. Without sounding petty and like I'm having a go at her the girls are not in any routine. Here is a couple of examples: last week we was told we can't drop the girls off untill 8pm on Sunday because she was out, 8pm came an she said she aint getting the girls she won't be back we will have to sort them David asked what time was there bedtime as it was a school night, she replied what ever time I put them to bed. So no routine which we already new anyway. So we kept the girls, bare in mind not only were they in school the next day but we also had no clothes/uniform for them alls they brought with them on the Friday was the clothes they were wearing, a coat and there tablets. We were not suprised by this anymore and had already bought an entire new wardrobe for the pair of them for when they are with us as they always looked homeless. The first time they came there bag consisted of 1 pair of knickers, 1 pair of leggings, 1 pyjama tshirt and 1 tshirt which was full of crusty food. Its really sad too see as they cry an want to take their stuff home when they go but I refuse as it doesn't come back.

The weekend that she is meant to have them she takes them to my partners mothers an she xmas them while she goes out or the boys look after them. I'm concerned for the girls in general, they sleep on metal camping beds, the only time they have a bath or shower is with us, they even questioned why we make them brush there teeth as they never have to do it at home, there late for school almost everyday even though the school in 10 doors down from there house, they even refuse to eat my food because "its tastes disgusting when its not made in a microwave"

We had to take the one of the boys shopping and buy him a toothbrush an toothpaste because they didn't have one and we found out for months he was either not brushing his teeth or having to use his brothers

Anyway so I've gone of a rant now but basically, I want to know of we are being unreasonable asking to change the days to every Wednesday and Friday instead of every other weekend?

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lyralalala · 16/10/2020 12:13

People who are looking into full-time care of their children don't cut their quality time with their kids.

Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:14

I'm not rearranging it to suit me! Its because of my partners new job and he won't be seeing them less he wants them every week!!

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Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:15

There both parents responsibility regardless of who there with!

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Cabinfever10 · 16/10/2020 12:16

Ok 1st off why has their dad not bought clothes for them?
If he has them every Wednesday over night why doesn't he have uniform for them?
Why do you think that you get any say in the contact arrangements?
Does your boyfriend pay maintenance? And if he does does he contribute to uniform if not why not?
As he doesn't see his boys so never buys any food or drink or toiletries why are you complaining about him buying a toothbrush and toothpaste.
Something very wrong is going on here and I think it has more to do with you boyfriend and you (who are nothing to his kids) than his ex.
Unless it is to tell your boyfriend that he needs to get his act together with regards to his kids you need to but out

Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:18

Oh an when we do ask for them on extra days we get told no as its not our day.

So no we don't want them less we want them more but are either being told no or thats it doesn't suit her

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lyralalala · 16/10/2020 12:18

@Hover93

I'm not rearranging it to suit me! Its because of my partners new job and he won't be seeing them less he wants them every week!!
He will be spending less quality time with them. People relax and unwind over the weekend.

Post school Friday and then counting down the hours to going back to Mum Saturday will not be as much quality time as the whole weekend.

Why has he taken a job that will affect his ability to have his, apparently badly neglected, children?

S111n20 · 16/10/2020 12:20

so his ex could go to the pub

travelled to Blackpool on a drinking session with her new boyfriend

Are you slightly jealous of the ex by any chance ??

BackAwayFatty · 16/10/2020 12:20

I think you're being unreasonable based in wanting to reduce for having time to yourselves at the girls expense.

Secondly it is not mums responsibility to provide clothes. I would be unhappy if I was having to pack bags. It is the second home, not a sleepover.

If you are so concerned about their well-being, I do not understand why you would want to reduce contact?

WhatWouldJKRDo · 16/10/2020 12:24

You’ve painted this woman as a neglectful feckless drunkard, and you want to have time free from your respective children?

Newsflash, OP - people with 6 children between them don’t get child free nights.

And slagging off his ex is not a classy look. If she was genuinely this negligent your post would be about how to support them.

peakygal · 16/10/2020 12:25

First you start off with saying she won't suit you and change her plans so you can spend time alone and follow up with maintaining shes a bad mother. She's neglecting her kids but you think she should agree with DP seeing them less?? Ummm yeah doesn't make sense. You sound very like my ex DPs wife Hmm

Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:26

Hes pays monthly maintenance nearly £100 more than he should he pays for all there clothes at our house and he pays for all their uniforms for all 4 kids every single item, he also pays for all there school fees, milk, toast, school dinners ect and any trips they have

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TheDuchessofMalfy · 16/10/2020 12:27

My God you are so unreasonable I don’t know where to start!

Of course you should have them for the full weekend of EOW - Friday night straight from school until Monday back to school is quite a normal arrangement / court order where this applies. Plus every Wednesday. Extremely common.

You absolutely should have a wardrobe do clothes for each child at your house, plus tooth brush, tooth paste etc and everything they need. They ought to be able to arrive at your house in the clothes they stand up in - in many households school uniform - and to be able to go through the weekend as though yours was their only home.

TheDuchessofMalfy · 16/10/2020 12:28

OMG and he thinks the CMS amount is what he “should” pay - it’s the bare minimum, not a target.

Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:29

We asked to change it for work reasons not personal time

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lyralalala · 16/10/2020 12:29

Did he make sure his maintenance calculation only included the overnight reduction for 2 children since he never has the other 2 overnight?

TheDuchessofMalfy · 16/10/2020 12:30

It’s not unreasonable for the Mum to want to keep them in a routine of days either.

lyralalala · 16/10/2020 12:31

What happens to the 13 and 15yo while the Mum is away for all these weekends away?

Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:32

Like i said he pays, almost £100 more than what he should pay via csa, he pays for All the school uniforms, and all school fees ie dinners, milk, toast trips ect

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Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:32

Either home alone, at our house or at there friends

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Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:33

Its not a routine though surly having them with us set days every week is better than every other week?

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Hover93 · 16/10/2020 12:34

He made the calculation based on having all 4 children not with him any days so he's paying way more than he actually should which isn't an issue

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lyralalala · 16/10/2020 12:35

@Hover93

Its not a routine though surly having them with us set days every week is better than every other week?
Every other week is a routine.

It's the routine they are in. EOW and one night during the week is the most common pattern.

It your kids staying with their dad every Satursday that's the unusual thing - don't even want to go away for a weekend?

Noitjustwontdo · 16/10/2020 12:36

The neglect stuff seemed to be an after thought, like you sat there considering how badly you could paint the Mother so we’d all agree with you. If your partner is genuinely concerned for his children’s welfare he should be pushing for full custody. Also, he pays £300 a month for four children- two of whom he barely sees. This doesn’t make him a contender for Father of the year.

lyralalala · 16/10/2020 12:36

@Hover93

Either home alone, at our house or at there friends
So a 13 year old is regularly left home alone, and a 6 and 5 year old are regularly neglected, yet your partner is still only considering full access?

If they are left home alone regularly why don't they stay with their Dad? Why does their Dad not insist for safety reasons if nothing else?

S111n20 · 16/10/2020 12:37

£300 for 4 children a month.....

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