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To put up with being spoken to like this..

259 replies

loopyloz88 · 11/10/2020 00:38

Before I start I just want to make you aware that I know I was an idiot, I know I shouldn't have messed when I didn't know what I was doing, and I know I was in the wrong and DH was fully in his right to be mad at me!

Tonight our heating and hot water stopped working. Brand new boiler only installed last year. DH had a mess around and managed to get the heating going, but the hot water tap then had no water at all, none even coming out of the tap. I made the not so bright idea to go and have a look. Yes I know I was stupid. I did something to the pressure which then made hot water spew all over like it was going to blow up, I shouted for DH who came and turned it off at the mains.
This was about 10pm. I know he had a right to be mad at me but he shouted at me loudly in the garden (there is no way the neighbours won't have heard) calling me thick and a stupid bitch, that he just wants me to fuck off. I said I was only trying and I'm sorry. He's saying I'll have to find the money to fix it, I'm so stupid he knows I won't tell anyone what I've done...
I said I know he had a right to react but its not acceptable the way he's spoken to me. It woke up DC as he continued to shout once we got in the house. He's been upstairs sulking since, so its looking like it's going to be a (chilly) night on the sofa for me!

OP posts:
MollyButton · 11/10/2020 12:41

Please OP - Get Out!

Your Mum has a point. This is abusive.
We all do silly things sometimes - but no one deserves to ever be spoken to the way he did to you.

(And that's before the fact that the problem was all his fault anyhow.)

Think hard. Phone Women's Aid if only for advice. But please get out, he is not a nice person.

differentnameforthis · 11/10/2020 12:45

@loopyloz88

He’s bringing things up that I don’t even remember saying or what he’s talking about, hand on heart. And when I say I don’t even remember that I get “that’s convenient.. I bet the random strangers on mumsnet wouldn’t agree with you if they knew what you’re really like..”
He's gaslighting you.
CreamCabbages · 11/10/2020 12:45

Glad to hear that you got the boiler fixed.
Unfortunately, the damage done by domestic abuse can’t be fixed so easily.

Based on your mother’s experiences, you know first hand the impact that growing up in an abusive household has.

Your children are taking this all in. Stop minimising his behaviour and leave him. If not for your sake, then for the sake of your children.

loopyloz88 · 11/10/2020 12:52

If I’m honest, once we knew everyone was ok - I think most people would’ve seen the funny side. Me running out of the garage screaming “help!” to water pissing all over. It’s one of those things that clearly isn’t funny at all but when you know everyone is safe and it’s ok it’s one of those things you can laugh at.
Him.. not at all. Just complete anger. You know like when kids in a class giggle and then the teacher massively shouts and shocks all the kids? I feel like one of those kids in class right now.
He HATES me being on here and talking to people. All he says is if he knew my side, if he knew what you were like. I honestly feel like saying get a bloody account, find my thread and come and tell your side then. As I said I don’t hide that in the past I’ve said nasty things. I have. Does that mean I’ve made him into the person he is? With someone else who was less ‘Hard work’ would she not bring out this side to him??

OP posts:
loopyloz88 · 11/10/2020 12:53

Sorry he says if THEY (people on mumsnet and my friend) knew his side THEY would give different answers, no he. Sorry I’m so tired today.

OP posts:
Whatsthefuss · 11/10/2020 12:55

OP - send him a link to this thread. Let him see that the consensus is he is a horrible abusive person.

Meuniere · 11/10/2020 12:58

Of course he does say that. Of course he will say that if people KNEW they would see things his way.

That’s just another way to say that only what he says and HIS truth is right. Whatever you say is wrong/invalid/not true.

If he was saying anything else, he would say have to acknowledge he is wrong too.
And there is no way he will do that. You know it.

amicissimma · 11/10/2020 12:59

So you believe your Mum suffers PTSD from growing up with an abusive parent and then you subject your children to the same.

Meuniere · 11/10/2020 13:00

And please do NOT send him a link to this thread.
He would just use it against you. He will turn it so that you will loose the support you get on here (because I’m pretty sure he will then make it very hard for you to come on here!).

I know you are hoping he will see the light if enough people tell him the same things. But HE WONT.

notreallybotheredaboutausernam · 11/10/2020 13:05

Haven't RTFT but a new boiler will be under warranty for at least a year, but more likely 2.

differentnameforthis · 11/10/2020 13:06

@Whatsthefuss

OP - send him a link to this thread. Let him see that the consensus is he is a horrible abusive person.
Good God, no DON'T!!
TheNoodlesIncident · 11/10/2020 13:06

OP your abusive marriage is harming your children. How can you stick with this man knowing that?!

I grew up with an abusive stepfather, I'm nearly fifty and still affected by the things he did and way he behaved. I would not put my child through that for anything, but his father is the most loving and generous of souls and he wouldn't shout at anyone, least of all in front of vulnerable children... He is also competent and reads up on how things work and what can go wrong before he starts a job, so he wouldn't have a problem sorting out a malfunctioning boiler, but that's not really relevant is it? What matters is when things go wrong, he keeps his head and remains amiable towards others, not raging and blaming them and glossing over his own mistake like your husband did.

You can't fix him, he won't change. For your sake and the children, you need to get away from him. It doesn't matter if he's nice enough 95% of the time, if he's obnoxious and abusive the remaining 5% that's still not acceptable. You won't get a sorry or thanks out of him, he thinks you don't deserve it and he can't acknowledge he was wrong.

ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule · 11/10/2020 13:07

@notreallybotheredaboutausernam

Haven't RTFT but a new boiler will be under warranty for at least a year, but more likely 2.
Clearly. Because OP has fixed it. And is realising she doesn't deserve treating this way.
differentnameforthis · 11/10/2020 13:07

@notreallybotheredaboutausernam

Haven't RTFT but a new boiler will be under warranty for at least a year, but more likely 2.
Then perhaps just read OP's posts...
diddl · 11/10/2020 13:15

@loopyloz88

Sorry he says if THEY (people on mumsnet and my friend) knew his side THEY would give different answers, no he. Sorry I’m so tired today.
Well if you are so difficult (from his POV), why does he stay?

Why does he want to be someone who he thinks is a thick, stupid bitch?

CovidCanFuckOffNow · 11/10/2020 13:17

Good luck OP, sounds like you are seeing things as they really are. He will try to make you see it differently but stay committed to understanding that his behaviour is unacceptable and absolutely will affect your developing children.

There are lots of online resources and even coaching courses that could help your husband to acknowledge and deal with his anger problem but he has to see it in himself first.

Whatisthisfuckery · 11/10/2020 13:18

OP, you’re twisting yourself up in knots here trying to find ways of justifying the way he treats you. There’s no maybe he shouldn’t have behaved like that, he shouldn’t be speaking to you like that, ever. You say he made you feel like a little child, but would you call a little child thick and a stupid bitch?

It’s very clear that you have been forced to change the way you act so as not to tip off his temper. Ok nobody acts perfectly at all times, and it might be that you did need to curb your tongue a bit, I don’t know, but it hasn’t worked, has it? You’ve said yourself that he blows up over increasingly smaller things, so what does this tell you? You have made efforts to curb the excesses of your behaviour, whether they were really excessive I don’t know, probably not particularly, but instead of him trying to do the same, he has increased his.

I also think you need to stop telling yourself porkies about why you feel uncomfortable about telling your mum. You know she grew up in an environment like the one your DC are growing up in and that it’s damaged her, and you also know it’s not because you don’t want to upset her that you don’t like telling her. You don’t like telling her because you know that what she’s telling you is the truth, that this behaviour isn’t acceptable from your husband and that it will have a massively negative impact on both you and your DC.

As for your H: notice it’s not his stuff he throws and breaks, and if he’s such a fucking amazing boiler guy why was he leaving the pressure to flatline at zero? Everybody knows you shouldn’t do that, and that it is as likely to knacker your boiler as over pressurising. If he’s such a genius he should know that, the twat.

I think you could try couples counselling but it’s not advised if there is abuse in the relationship, which there clearly is. I think you’d be better spending the time and money having counselling by yourself to drill down into the reasons why you are willing to accept this behaviour, and why you think it’s ok for your DC to be exposed to it. You’re ignoring your mother, who has direct experience of growing up in a household where abuse is present and I think that would be a much more worthy avenue of exploration than trying to make your H desist in behaviour that he’s clearly choosing to engage in. The fact that he’s choosing to engage in this behaviour means that it has some benefit for him, and he clearly thinks these befefits are worth it, so you’d be wasting time and energy trying to get him to change. Instead you need to look at how you need to change, because at the end of the day that’s the only thing you have any control over.

CreamCabbages · 11/10/2020 13:19

He says if only people knew his side?

What, that he is controlling and will shout at you, throw your things and call you names if you disobey him?

He is blaming you for his own behaviour. From some of your posts it’s clear that you have internalised this and are buying into this notion that you are ‘hard work’.

Why should you not have opinions and a right to reply to him? Why should you have not tried to fix the boiler? He does not own you.

Like I said upthread, you need to leave him, if not for your sake then for that of your children.

Magicpaintbrush · 11/10/2020 13:25

I would leave my DH if he spoke to me like that - which he never has and never would. To call you names like that shows such a staggering lack of respect or love that for me that would be the end - true colours shown and no going back from it. There is absolutely no excuse or reason for calling the person you are supposed to love abusive horrible names - none. Even if you'd flooded the house.

Magicpaintbrush · 11/10/2020 13:27

Just to add, out of all the many many many couples I know irl, whether it be family or friends, I know only 2 men who have called their wives names like that, and both wives divorced them. Name calling in a marriage is not normal, it is totally abusive.

roarfeckingroarr · 11/10/2020 13:54

What the hell OP? What has he done to your self esteem? You tried to fix it - so what? Is this usual behaviour from him?

TheTeenageYears · 11/10/2020 14:00

I think one of the fundamental differences between 'most' women and men are that women will read things like mumsnet, speak to fame or friends and even strangers if needs be and therefore have an alternative perspective for almost all situations. This can influence their thoughts and behaviour but generally speaking isn't the case for men. @loopyloz88 you have received a huge amount of input from loads of people from all walks of life and situations on this thread and I bet your DH hasn't even given his behaviour a second thought never mind reach out to anyone in order to check it. I do wonder if situations wouldn't get to the state they do if both parties were open and honest with others around them in order to get a proper perspective. I know from conversations with my own DH that the thought of seeking external validation just wouldn't cross his mind - it's just a totally different mindset and really not helpful. I feel women often involve over the years as a result in a way that many men never do.

TheTeenageYears · 11/10/2020 14:01

Family not fame

GilbertMarkham · 11/10/2020 14:32

but then he just has this temper. It's like he see's red and there is no.. reasoning?

The poor dear.

Does he have this with mates, bosses, customers, policemen, people in authority, bouncers, members of the public who are as physically strong or stronger than him??
That must be very inconvenient for him, he must get into a lot of fights, he just have been put in the cells quite a number of times? Lost numerous jobs? Been thrown out of lots of places?

Or does he only have this problem with his dependants (who are also physically weaker than him)?

GilbertMarkham · 11/10/2020 14:36

And before he uses the "you're especially annoying" line;

A. I doubt that, and
B. People are generally annoying. There are constantly things with people and in life that test your temper. You choose to control it or you don't; men like him choose not to control it/to indulge it with their partners and kids.

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