To be really angry that seeing my parents is illegal?

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My area is very likely to be locked down next week. I am so furious that it’s going to be against the law for me to see my parents, and my children to see their grandparents. We did lockdown properly last time, it was absolutely awful. My mental health plummeted and I don’t think I can do it again. I rely on support from family and friends.

Just feeling so incredibly angry about it all tonight. Poor people in Leicester have lived like this for 100 days so far with no end in site.

I’m so fed up and I know I’m going to be told to just get on it it. But I just need a space to vent.

@Lostinacloud

Not going to be told to just get on with it by me. In fact I am willing the whole of the UK population to stop just getting on with it and to push back against this control by fear. How dare any government tell any free individual that they are not allowed to see their own family. I actually cannot believe that people are willingly accepting this no matter what is going on.

The most sense I've heard from anyone in ages regarding all this. Fully agree

@Belladonna12 so they should just suck it up then? Get on and die of cancer because of a virus that's been massively oversold to the general public?

I second that @Doods3

@MaxNormal

For as long as it takes luv

I am not your luv, it's not up to you, and as long as it takes won't last forever when the tax revenue dries up.
And I cannot begin to express how heartily sick I am about people banging on about the fucking war.

Oh fuck yes. Pretty much everyone going down that round sounds an absolute clunge.

Yes, it's awful.
But so many people are using the 'awfulness' as being equal to 'unfair' and then deciding they will play by their own rules. And so cases go up.
How can it be fair or unfair to have a pandemic? Heck knows I think this government has made a pig's ear out of handling it, but I sure as heck am not gambling with my health or others.
The vast majority of cases in our area have been through contact in homes. Close contact is the red flag (enough to breathe in someone else's breath) for 15 mins - just don't.

@WinifredSanderson Did you not read what she said? If we don't lockdown the hospitals will be full of people with the virus and there will be very few other treatments available.

But so many people are using the 'awfulness' as being equal to 'unfair' and then deciding they will play by their own rules. And so cases go up

This.

@Doods3 and @Lostinacloud

You're both wrong. Utterly. Selfishly. Stupidly.
And if you like I can explain to you all the details of how a member of my family in their 30s had their life support switched off, shall I?
Overfuckingsold???

@Flaxmeadow

Personally I think the restrictions are dragging it on for longer

But that is the whole point of the restrictions. To slow it down, flatten the curve, so the health services are not overwhelmed in a short space of time

This is cliched guff. It would be better if people thought for themselves rather than spouting the same old tropes.

@BackBeatTheWordisOnTheStreet there are already no other treatments available even with lesser cases of covid in hospitals!! Or did you not read the part where I said my relatives have had their cancer treatments halted??

@Doods3 I agree with @Lostinacloud, too.

@Standingstone77

Honestly completely understand how you feel, but this is not some dystopic government control conspiracy. I am an A+E doctor. I spent 12 hours in full ppe treating sick covid patients yesterday. Half of the ones I saw died. Nothing anyone can do. Had to tell a 42 year old’s family he was going to die. THAT’s why you can’t see your parents.

Please read this.

I wish there had been more camera teams in the hospitals last time. So many posters on here are convinced it's a conspiracy, but they haven't quite thought it through. The government clearly WANTS shops, businesses, pubs etc to stay open so they don't have to bail out the workers and get more taxes. I cannot see what they could be gaining from having a pandemic.

@RonaLisa What is your big plan then, if you think these restrictions etc are "cliched guff"?

Totally understand how u feel I was shielding for 16 weeks and could not see any of my family at all. But, and here's the but, do u really want to take the virus to your parents? U or yr children could be asymptomatic ( no symptoms) and u should be safeguarding the more vunerable really.

I say this to those that don't I ey the rules. Your human rights does not extend to causing harm or death to others so stop moaning follow all rules put in place and get on with it! The more u don't do it the more of your human rights will be took away. You reap what u sow!

Without a lockdown we are pursuing herd immunisation - that's what they mean when they say they won't comply.

Approx 46,000 Brits have died of Covid - people who were alive at the beginning of this year. Its the highest death rate in the developed world outside the US!

MIT estimate 250,000 people will die if we pursue herd immunity. A death rate would totally collapse the NHS.

Some on here seem to want this or "don't care' but I'm guessing they assume it won't be them dying alone in a hospital ward because it finally caught up with them.

www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/16/905285/uk-dropping-coronavirus-herd-immunity-strategy-250000-dead/

WinifredSanderson. Flu is not Covid 8000 people died in UK last year of flu. Between March and now 42,000+ have died of Covid plus another 50,000+ excess deaths. Last month 8 died of flu. Today 84 died of Covid. By next week deaths will reach 100 a day.
Today it was announced a carehomes in West Lothian has list 8 residents to Covid in one week and 50 workers and residents have tested positive for Covid. So no comparison to flu.

Hear hear Vin!

Our local hospital had now announced today no visitors allowed as they have several Covid cases in ICU and 2 deaths yesterday and the rate per 100,000 for our area is only a quarter of what it is in other areas on lockdown. And that's mainly due to people coming on holiday!

Pretty sure I already said covid isn't flu. So does it not matter that 8,000 people died of flu then? 8,000 people who were alive at the beginning of last year had caught flu because SOMEONE passed it to them. Thoroughly preventable if we locked down every flu season. You don't seem to bothered about those peoples lives. So only people who die of covid count then?

50 000 flu deaths in winter 17/18, so actually somewhat compatible.
But since those people didn't die of covid, it didn't count. Or something.

*comparable.

I have had several arguments with my husband because we are in local lockdown area my in-laws have my daughter one day after school while we work which is exempt under childcare exemption but has become increasingly clear they are also still seeing his sibling which is against the rules.
I've not seem my family for months because they live to far away to visit without staying over which we can't do. I only saw them because my 97 year old grandma died (not of covid) and we had to do a round trip to Scotland for 5 of us to attend a basic cremation service. It has pissed me of this week that two travellers died in a car crash after being chased by the police both of their funeral/wakes were attended by hundreds of people but the police did nothing if it was anyone else they would gave been facing a fine.

I'm honestly dreading what they ste going to announce on Monday the lockdown hasn't worked though most of the cases seem to be cause by the uni going back but they are going to throw the hospitality industry under the bus and cripple the north-west economy. Wanted to go see my Dad at half term but that isn't going to happen. He is 70 and on his own my sister has seen him but still lives a couple if hours away.

"I genuinely don’t understand how people can be so cold and devoid of empathy. Genuinely."

I might empathise if you explained it to me.
Someone posted above that they haven't seen friends or family for a year. Now, that is something I can empathise with. But weeks? Or a couple of months? I just don't get it.

@Sostenueto

That’s just not true I’m afraid. 42000+ have died within 28 days of a positive COVID test. They have not all died ‘of COVID’ at all.