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To think these are the best sad faces ever?

291 replies

Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 18:33

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-yorkshire-welders-jailed-2-22788063

Break the law, admit it in court, go to prison. Simple. Not sure what the sad faces and holding the photo is all about.

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Iamthewombat · 04/10/2020 23:30

It's all there.

Stunned
Devastated
Swoop
Mind-boggling

Don’t forget ‘stormed’! A personal favourite.

“Helen Smith, 38, whose husband Michael, 43, and 18-year-old son Jack are now behind bars, stormed: “They’ve been treated like serious criminals when the sensible thing was to have a word in their ear.”

TazMac · 04/10/2020 23:46

They’ve been treated like serious criminals when the sensible thing was to have a word in their ear.

The sensible thing would have been to deport them, so that they didn’t infect others in the IOM prison system.

lborgia · 04/10/2020 23:51

Once more for those who need the reminder - Masks HELP prevent the virus.

You don’t go to an area that has very VERY specific rules, and then make up your own.

Yes, a mask helps, but if you signed a contract, were told again en-route, and THEN ignore all this to go and buy a sandwich, how dense do you have to be?!

You KNOW that the Mirror didn’t mention the beer because it didn’t fit with the APLIN outrage. Not as easy to whip up hysteria and outrage if your lad was also buying beer for their 2 days on the island.

Just shows, you don’t have to be a politician/posh to be entitled.

LimeLemonLimeLemon · 04/10/2020 23:52

But ....so they have the do a poo pose??? Isn't that almost essential for APILN?

LimeLemonLimeLemon · 04/10/2020 23:53

@lborgia

Once more for those who need the reminder - Masks HELP prevent the virus.

You don’t go to an area that has very VERY specific rules, and then make up your own.

Yes, a mask helps, but if you signed a contract, were told again en-route, and THEN ignore all this to go and buy a sandwich, how dense do you have to be?!

You KNOW that the Mirror didn’t mention the beer because it didn’t fit with the APLIN outrage. Not as easy to whip up hysteria and outrage if your lad was also buying beer for their 2 days on the island.

Just shows, you don’t have to be a politician/posh to be entitled.

I am often bemused when I have heard entitlement being linked to a certain class, age or even race. I think human nature is the same across the board...
Nikhedonia · 04/10/2020 23:56

I must be the only person who wasn't aware that the IOM has notoriously harsh punishments.

I totally respect their decision on this, though.

I'm quite enjoying reading the posts from British people furious about this. It's like watching an immigration debate from the other side of the fence. Grin

Nikhedonia · 04/10/2020 23:57

@RizzleDrizzle

All of the people objecting answer me this

Say some massive technical thing that needed doing in the uk infrastructure no one in the uk had the qualifications to do it. came over from somewhere with a virus that hasn’t reached the uk, the uk were aware of it but very quickly limited travel, allowed the villages and towns to operate but in safe conditions, and therefore had remained virus free. Now these people had to come but there were certain very strict regulations about what they could and couldn’t do.

The contract they signed meant they agreed to those conditions and regulations,
They told at their accommodation what those regulations are, their even told by their supervisor as they walk out the office door and break those rules, rules that are laws. And they just pop to Tesco’s cos they want a beer for their hotel.

How would you feel? What would you want Boris Johnson to do? You’d be baying saying the police were in comipant how could Boris let these people in, why should the uk suffer.

Yet you think it’s ok that these idiots do exactly that in the IOM?
Somewhere that’s not part of the uk?

Yes you think it’s ridiculous by uk laws, they weren’t in the UK.

Spot on.
MintyMabel · 05/10/2020 00:01

So are you filling a skills gap then, if you are having to recruit from mainland UK

Just like the U.K. does with their overseas recruitment.

People saying this is too much and look at what Cummings did. I wonder if they would have been saying the same if Cummings had been sent to jail for two weeks for his stunt?

jessstan1 · 05/10/2020 00:05

Cummings didn't come into contact with anyone, with or without mask.

I still think two weeks in gaol is over the top; a fine would have sufficed and I daresay their employer will reprimand them.

JamieLeeCurtains · 05/10/2020 00:05

I've gone down a rabbit hole of Manx penal severity.

19 weeks this guy got. I love the detail about him failing miserably to hide behind his mate's telly to evade capture.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52827218

Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 00:07

@jessstan1

Cummings didn't come into contact with anyone, with or without mask.

I still think two weeks in gaol is over the top; a fine would have sufficed and I daresay their employer will reprimand them.

A fine wouldn’t deter people who can afford it. If we just fined people £10k then millionaires would be happily coming and going and just paying up.

A prison sentence (these got off lightly) is a real and effective deterrent that stops people breaking the law.

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Impatiens · 05/10/2020 00:15

Insane. And not remotely funny.

MoonJelly · 05/10/2020 00:22

@jessstan1

Cummings didn't come into contact with anyone, with or without mask.

I still think two weeks in gaol is over the top; a fine would have sufficed and I daresay their employer will reprimand them.

I think that statement's dubious at best. Didn't they admit to getting out of the car when they went on their little jaunt to Barnard Castle? And Mrs C certainly was in contact with people when she took their child to hospital. Also he never did explain how he managed to refill the car without going out.

Plus, of course, when he set out he had no means of guaranteeing that he wouldn't break down or have an accident, thus necessitating lots of people coming into contact with them.

Iamthewombat · 05/10/2020 00:37

I've gone down a rabbit hole of Manx penal severity.

I’m with you. Especially when I read that the area in which the TV concealment quarantine breaker was arrested is called Cronk y Berry!

Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 00:38

@Iamthewombat

I've gone down a rabbit hole of Manx penal severity.

I’m with you. Especially when I read that the area in which the TV concealment quarantine breaker was arrested is called Cronk y Berry!

Be glad they didn’t live in Fistard!

Always conjures up a mental image I could do without

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user1481840227 · 05/10/2020 00:42

Doesn’t matter who you are or where you are from. Break the law and put the community and economy at risk and you get banged up (in a cushy prison)

A cushy prison lol
Where do you think they should go?
A maximum security prison or to a prison where they do hard labour?

I find it worrying that you're actually alright with this happening!

Elsewyre · 05/10/2020 00:47

Hang on this forum a full of people posting since Cummings broke the rule they all would to.

Cant have shit shit both ways

saltinesandcoffeecups · 05/10/2020 00:48

@Downwithcovid

Also because they wouldn’t come if it wasn’t made worth their while. It’s pretty basic. To get someone to travel here and be locked in the hotel room when not actually working you have to pay them a premium on top of what they could earn by just driving 15 minutes down the road in the UK

You might want to add beer and lunch to that list of premiums Wink

SleepingStandingUp · 05/10/2020 00:48

@Cadent

We subside your corporate tax rate to the tune of £300m pa so maybe don’t jail Brits for such a small thing?
So you think the rules should only apply to certain people? Here's a law, but if you live in the UK you don't have to abide by it, you can give the locals covid cos it's coming out you're tax innit
Elsewyre · 05/10/2020 00:50

@eaglejulesk

From some of the posts on this thread it's easy to understand why the UK has had such a covid problem!

They are a bunch of idiots, and good on the IOM for taking action (speaking from another island nation with similar rules).

But covid is endemic. Like swine flu. Its here and not going away.
Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 00:51

@user1481840227

Doesn’t matter who you are or where you are from. Break the law and put the community and economy at risk and you get banged up (in a cushy prison)

A cushy prison lol
Where do you think they should go?
A maximum security prison or to a prison where they do hard labour?

I find it worrying that you're actually alright with this happening!

It’s probably the softest prison in Europe. Only a few years old and a really easy number.

Not sure what’s confusing.

www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1977052/Video-ITV-documentary-gives-glimpse-Jurby-prison-Isle-Man.html

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Dairyfine · 05/10/2020 01:01

The poster didn't say they were confused.

Shxx · 05/10/2020 01:02

Op you really aren't a nice person.

Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 01:06

@Shxx

Op you really aren't a nice person.
Why not?

Because I think it’s funny that people break a very clear and obvious law, get punished in the same way (well, less than others who have done similar) and then their family go to the papers and pose for photos the type of which are regularly laughed at on here and loads of other places?

I don’t understand, sorry.

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