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To think these are the best sad faces ever?

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Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 18:33

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-yorkshire-welders-jailed-2-22788063

Break the law, admit it in court, go to prison. Simple. Not sure what the sad faces and holding the photo is all about.

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TroysMammy · 04/10/2020 20:45

I imagine they were imprisoned because they can't be trusted to stay put where they were meant to be. The would have probably been driven from the hotel to work and back again so they weren't in contact with islanders.

RizzleDrizzle · 04/10/2020 20:46

In the UK mainland people do far, far worse and don't go to jail

That’s nice, people go to jail in the uk that they wouldn’t go to jail for in mainland Europe. That’s the thing different governments have different laws. Why is this hard to understand.

The IOM isn’t part of the UK, comparing what you and wouldn’t go to jail for is pointless! They broke the law.

Why is this hard to understand.

(I’m in England btw... I just don’t understand why people are having trouble understanding what’s happened)

Cadent · 04/10/2020 20:46

I’ve just been googling and it seems IoM is being quite strict and has jailed people for 4 weeks, 10 weeks etc for breaking the rules.

So I take it back OP, apologies for my knee jerk reaction! Brew

walker1891 · 04/10/2020 20:47

One of them had covid and now the whole prison is on lockdown and every family associated with the prison also have to isolate.

4 months free from covid and one idiot brings it in and fails to isolate as informed. As an island they can't cope with a pandemic so they are protecting themselves.

A member of my family can't go home to the IOM. He's been here months and everything is on the IOM. His house, car everything. He's had to buy a new car to get by for now.

ivykaty44 · 04/10/2020 20:48

tbf its incredibly entitled to go to another country where they haven't got covid19 and then go out with the possible risk of spreading it to everyone - especially when they were told particularly not to do so, its almost as if the men were deliberately ignoring the rules on purpose...

RizzleDrizzle · 04/10/2020 20:49

@Cadent

We subside your corporate tax rate to the tune of £300m pa so maybe don’t jail Brits for such a small thing?
Maybe brits shouldn’t break the law if they don’t want to be jailed hay!

Good old British cock of the walk syndrome

nocoolnamesleft · 04/10/2020 20:49

In order to be permitted to enter the island they will have had to sign legally binding documents that they would adhere to the law. They didn't. They stopped off to buy beer. Even though there's a big Asda handy for the terminal on the mainland side, where they could have easily and legally stocked up. No sympathies.

tillytoodles1 · 04/10/2020 20:58

They knew the rules and they broke them
I wish the UK was as hot on punishment as the IOM then maybe we'd be COVID free too.

TazMac · 04/10/2020 21:07

One of them had covid and now the whole prison is on lockdown and every family associated with the prison also have to isolate.

So why didn’t the IOM prison service quarantine them in prison?

ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 04/10/2020 21:15

@walker1891

One of them had covid and now the whole prison is on lockdown and every family associated with the prison also have to isolate.

4 months free from covid and one idiot brings it in and fails to isolate as informed. As an island they can't cope with a pandemic so they are protecting themselves.

A member of my family can't go home to the IOM. He's been here months and everything is on the IOM. His house, car everything. He's had to buy a new car to get by for now.

That didn't make the news yet.
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Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 21:18

@TazMac

One of them had covid and now the whole prison is on lockdown and every family associated with the prison also have to isolate.

So why didn’t the IOM prison service quarantine them in prison?

I would imagine there will be a lot of questions asked over how they have handled this over the next few days.

Doesn’t change the fact that these nobs knowingly flouted the law and now their stupid families are bleating that they were punished accordingly.

I had to self isolate on return recently. No way on earth I was leaving the house as I knew if I got spotted I would end up in prison. It’s a deterrent and it works.

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MadameMeursault · 04/10/2020 21:25

What’s APILN?

JamieLeeCurtains · 04/10/2020 21:27

Angry people in local newspapers

walker1891 · 04/10/2020 21:29

That didn't make the news yet

I doubt it will when sad face reports side with them. One of my family members who lives on the IOM messaged yesterday to say there are now 2 cases so this one person must've infected someone. She did say they are not in the community so I assume someone else is infected in the prison now as a result or that its another one of these men who now have it.

ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 04/10/2020 21:32

@walker1891

That didn't make the news yet

I doubt it will when sad face reports side with them. One of my family members who lives on the IOM messaged yesterday to say there are now 2 cases so this one person must've infected someone. She did say they are not in the community so I assume someone else is infected in the prison now as a result or that its another one of these men who now have it.

Nothing in the IOM news either. Yet. It's probably coming. I'll wait for it.
TazMac · 04/10/2020 21:32

@Downwithcovid

I’m not saying it does change the fact that they should have self isolated on arrival. However, surely the fact that we’re going to prison for not quarantining, whilst still in their quarantine period should have alerted at least one person in that process to the fact they should be in quarantine in prison as well Confused.

TazMac · 04/10/2020 21:35
  • that they were going to prison for not quarantining (bloody phone).

The IOM has forced others to mix with them in prison. That bit isn’t the welders fault, that but can be blamed on the IOM prison service.

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 04/10/2020 21:37

They are selfish idiots. They knew the rules but chose to ignore them. They deserve everything they got!

TazMac · 04/10/2020 21:38

*that bit can be blamed on the IOM prison service.

(I think mumsnet uses a different spellchecker from everywhere else, as I don’t make this many typos anywhere else).

Kandinsko · 04/10/2020 21:42

They all look like they’ve been welding themselves.

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Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 21:44

@walker1891

That didn't make the news yet

I doubt it will when sad face reports side with them. One of my family members who lives on the IOM messaged yesterday to say there are now 2 cases so this one person must've infected someone. She did say they are not in the community so I assume someone else is infected in the prison now as a result or that its another one of these men who now have it.

The two cases are people who are quarantined after arrival back from the UK who took tests at 7 days. They will now be required to do 22 days so that it doesn’t spread to the community.

That is a total non issue. If those two people hadn’t obeyed the law on return then we would have an issue and they would both be in prison as well

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Rudolphian · 04/10/2020 21:47

They knew the rules.
Instead they decide to put the lives 85,000 at risk.
The only reason why the people on Isle of Man are living without restrictions is because of their strict laws.
They decided they were above the rules and they paid the price. IOM has their own laws.

TitianaTitsling · 04/10/2020 22:03

But they were wearing the masks weren't they? That's what identified them. Is what we are getting told in UK mainland that the wearing of masks works, so they would have been OK?

LadyCatStark · 04/10/2020 22:03

Whilst it is a bit harsh, the IOM are known for harsh punishments and as a result, they have low crime rates. The welders knew the rules before they went and were reminded when they got there but chose to flout them. It’s no good comparing them to UK politicians as the laws are different. Perhaps if we locked down as harshly, we’d be Covid free too and able to go about our lives.

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Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 22:04

@TitianaTitsling

But they were wearing the masks weren't they? That's what identified them. Is what we are getting told in UK mainland that the wearing of masks works, so they would have been OK?
Since when did a mask stop you spreading a virus?
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