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Downwithcovid · 2020-10-04T17:33:39+00:00

[[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-yorkshire-welders-jailed-2-22788063]] Break the law, admit it in court, go to prison. Simple. Not sure what the sad faces and holding the photo is all about.

DisorganisedPurpose · 05/10/2020 01:32

Most of the comments support the OP but YABU has most votes. Interesting.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/10/2020 02:38

I’m with Trees on this one.

Do you often get off on other peoples misery and despair, op. You sound tad warped to me.

Florencex · 05/10/2020 02:45

@Downwithcovid

They didn’t buy lunch they bought beer. All their food and drink they needed was available at their hotel and they had signed contracts to say that by being allowed to travel here while the borders were closed they wouldn’t go to any public places.

Their supervisior, who stayed int the van, had also told them.

They chose to break the law and put 85,000 who are living completely normal lives at risk - so they were punished

Oh get a grip, they didn’t put 85,000 at risk by going to Tesco.

How you can focus on sad faces and gloss over the fact that people have been imprisoned for going to Tesco is beyond my comprehension. There is something wrong with you.

slashlover · 05/10/2020 04:02

How you can focus on sad faces and gloss over the fact that people have been imprisoned for going to Tesco is beyond my comprehension. There is something wrong with you.

They were imprisoned for breaking the law. It doesn't matter if if they went to Tesco or went to every shop in the place, they BROKE THE LAW.

Do you believe that people should get to choose which laws they want to follow?

For everyone saying that they wore masks, masks are not 100% effective. If they were then we wouldn't have masks and social distance and all the cleaning.

GingerScallop · 05/10/2020 04:27

When I saw this, I thought about how "justice" affects people differently depending on their socioeconomic status. Cummings, Ferrier, Corbyn are not imprison and their reasons were more feeble than buying lunch. Ferrier was actually positive already and knew it, and took a train, unlike these guys.
But that's just me

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Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 05:50

@GingerScallop

When I saw this, I thought about how "justice" affects people differently depending on their socioeconomic status. Cummings, Ferrier, Corbyn are not imprison and their reasons were more feeble than buying lunch. Ferrier was actually positive already and knew it, and took a train, unlike these guys. But that's just me

Eh?

Those things happened in a different country. Has Bojo’s dad been caught doing what these guys did he would have gone to prison as well.

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slashlover · 05/10/2020 05:58

@GingerScallop

When I saw this, I thought about how "justice" affects people differently depending on their socioeconomic status. Cummings, Ferrier, Corbyn are not imprison and their reasons were more feeble than buying lunch. Ferrier was actually positive already and knew it, and took a train, unlike these guys.

Did you ignore all the posts which explained that the IOM has a different legal system and therefore what happens to those people is irrelevant?

lojoko · 05/10/2020 06:20

@AlecTrevelyan006

I can't believe that anyone is defending sending these blokes to prison for two weeks. Some people have completely lost their minds and have no sense of proportion. It's fucking mental.

This!

Elsewyre · 05/10/2020 06:29

@slashlover

How you can focus on sad faces and gloss over the fact that people have been imprisoned for going to Tesco is beyond my comprehension. There is something wrong with you.

They were imprisoned for breaking the law. It doesn't matter if if they went to Tesco or went to every shop in the place, they BROKE THE LAW.

Do you believe that people should get to choose which laws they want to follow?

For everyone saying that they wore masks, masks are not 100% effective. If they were then we wouldn't have masks and social distance and all the cleaning.

So did the suffragettes? So did turing?

Breaking an unjust law isnt something most people count.

If this law is repealed before Corona is "eradicated" then the magistrate and iow should be having thier asses sued off

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Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 06:36

We don’t have magistrates.

How can you sue a government for applying a law in their own country, or a judge for enforcing it?

We don’t have a speed limit out of towns, so when I see the white circle with a slack diagonal line through it it means I can legally do 130mph on my motorbike. And I do regularly and have never hurt anyone.

I am however bright enough to know that if I come to your country and see exactly the same sign on an a or B road your law is different and I would lose my license and possibly go to prison.

If I did I doubt I would get much sympathy on here if I then went to the press and said I didn’t think it was fair.

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Mamadothehump · 05/10/2020 06:42

I knew EXACTLY which article you were talking about, purely by the thread title 🤣

Everywherethatmarywent · 05/10/2020 06:43

These people getting sent to prison for going shopping in Tesco.

And people think it’s funny and just.

What the fuck has happened to society?

Northernsoullover · 05/10/2020 06:47

I clicked on this thread expecting to see lots of support for the tough stance that the IOM has taken on covid but I'm quite shocked at how many people think that these people should have got a slap on the wrist. The mind truly boggles.

lojoko · 05/10/2020 06:47

Definitely no worries about me ever going to IOM. Probably get a life sentence for going the wrong way through the rope queue off the ferry.

Two 18 year old boys locked up, lives ruined. An absolute scandal.

PartoftheProbl3m · 05/10/2020 06:49

The Isle of Man is mental. But as a sentencer I’ve got to agree they intentionally broke the law.

JamieLeeCurtains · 05/10/2020 06:57

And don't try to bring drugs into the Isle of Man.

Ten years.

www.isleofman.com/News/details/46484/ten-years-for-drugs-offences

Parkandride · 05/10/2020 06:59

Would all those saying YABU have a problem abiding by the rules if they went to New Zealand for example?

Or in none covid times theres plenty of laws I think are stupid e.g. in UAE but I would expect my family to do sad face if I'd been caught doing a drunk public striptease. You either don't go or modify your behaviour appropriately.

PartoftheProbl3m · 05/10/2020 07:01

Or be gay. Until recently.

Anyway they’ve not got a defence.

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Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 07:02

[quote JamieLeeCurtains]And don't try to bring drugs into the Isle of Man.

Ten years.

www.isleofman.com/News/details/46484/ten-years-for-drugs-offences[/quote]
Again. He knew the law and the potential consequences, took a gamble and lost.

It’s a very effective deterrent- which is what a punishment for an offence like that is meant to be. I don’t want my kids taking drugs and assume you wouldn’t want yours to either so if the level of sentencing makes breaking the law a risk not worth taking then it’s doing it’s job as far as I am concerned.

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Everywherethatmarywent · 05/10/2020 07:03

@Northernsoullover

I clicked on this thread expecting to see lots of support for the tough stance that the IOM has taken on covid but I'm quite shocked at how many people think that these people should have got a slap on the wrist. The mind truly boggles.

What mind boggling is that people are agreeing to this.

They went to the shop.

They didn’t

Assault some body
Murder somebody
Kill two children in a drink drive accident
Sexually assault somebody
Break in to some one home
Rob a bank

They went to the shop.

It’s disgusting and especially since TWO MPs have broke the ‘rules’ too.

The people that agree with this are seriously misguided and brainwashed OR just plain nasty

petherbridge · 05/10/2020 07:07

TWO MPs have broke the ‘rules’ too.

That's in a different country, with different circumstances, and different rules.

What these people did jeopardized the COVID-free status of the entire island. That's incredibly reckless and selfish.

JamieLeeCurtains · 05/10/2020 07:10

I'm not disagreeing with you, @Downwithcovid, I'm fascinated. I'm certainly not averse to the tough sentences handed out for sexual and violent offences on the IoM.

Do prisoners on the IoM serve their full terms, so you know, or is there parole, licence, etc, like in the UK?

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Downwithcovid · 05/10/2020 07:15

@JamieLeeCurtains

I'm not disagreeing with you, *@Downwithcovid*, I'm fascinated. I'm certainly not averse to the tough sentences handed out for sexual and violent offences on the IoM.

Do prisoners on the IoM serve their full terms, so you know, or is there parole, licence, etc, like in the UK?

Wouldn’t know without looking into it.

Thankfully me, my friends and my family and work colleagues are al law abiding so it’s not something I have experience of.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 05/10/2020 07:25

@GingerScallop

When I saw this, I thought about how "justice" affects people differently depending on their socioeconomic status. Cummings, Ferrier, Corbyn are not imprison and their reasons were more feeble than buying lunch. Ferrier was actually positive already and knew it, and took a train, unlike these guys. But that's just me

It might be less to do with their socioeconomic status and more to do with the fact it's completely different jurisdictions in this case.

If poor people were going to jail in the UK for doing what Cummings/Johnson/Ferrier had done you might have a point.

JamieLeeCurtains · 05/10/2020 07:28

Someone upthread thought it was the Isle of Wight.

Must make getting on ferries interesting.