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To think these are the best sad faces ever?

291 replies

Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 18:33

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-yorkshire-welders-jailed-2-22788063

Break the law, admit it in court, go to prison. Simple. Not sure what the sad faces and holding the photo is all about.

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Carrotgirl87 · 04/10/2020 20:10

@Cadent

YABU. The article says they bought lunch, not beer. Why are you lying, OP?

2 weeks for buying lunch with a mask on is draconian.

So tired of these little islanders posting on here with glee. Similar to Bournemouth, was there on the last warm day of September and local residents were miserable! The staff in Bournemouth were great though.

Daily mail says beer too.
Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 20:12

The article is wrong. If they followed the rules they wouldn’t have interacted with anyone who masked up and taking precautions and distancing.

As it is they have put loads of people at risk by wandering around Tesco

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AdoptedBumpkin · 04/10/2020 20:14

YANBU. They do look very hard done by.

MustDust · 04/10/2020 20:16

Not sure why people are getting at the op. It really doesn't matter if they were buying a sandwich or beer, if you don't like the law somewhere then don't visit, whether you agree with it or not. They were even warned before going into the shop yet they think they're above the law.

Cadent · 04/10/2020 20:18

We subside your corporate tax rate to the tune of £300m pa so maybe don’t jail Brits for such a small thing?

picklemewalnuts · 04/10/2020 20:20

I totally back IoM on this.
Why would you risk infecting an area which is Covid free?

Why would you think it was ok to ignore the rules which had been explained to you?

Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 20:22

@Cadent

We subside your corporate tax rate to the tune of £300m pa so maybe don’t jail Brits for such a small thing?
Not sure where you get that from. We have a shared VAT agreement with the UK and claim back an amount from HMRC each year based on a calculation used to work out what our residents pay to UK business via online purchases, supply of other goods etc. Everything else is raised locally from our own taxation system.

We have a reciprocal agreement with the NHS where Uk residents get treatment when here and we get treatment when there. Our NHS pays yours for islander to come over for specialist treatment in your hospitals, and we pay an amount towards defence.

Hardly a small thing if their stupidity causes another outbreak and costs lives and our economy millions.

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Imfromhere · 04/10/2020 20:22

I had good laugh when I seen this article. The rules are made clear to them before they traveled. They needed special permission and a certificate just to get on/off the boat.

Like OP has said, we are 95% back to normal on the island and that's due to every member of our community locking down and following the rules for 3 months. Its bloody awful to think that we could be back to square 1 just because some people think they are above the law.

They deserved the prison sentence for putting the entire population at risk.

Ps they also got a parking ticket on their van Grin

Cadent · 04/10/2020 20:23

Not what the media says, OP!

Downwithcovid · 04/10/2020 20:27

@Cadent

Not what the media says, OP!
I wouldn’t believe everything you read in the media . You can find the court reports online if you doubt me
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Rosehip10 · 04/10/2020 20:27

Remember the IOM used to think that birching youths who committed petty crime was the best punishment to sort them out. This only stopped in 1976.

ivykaty44 · 04/10/2020 20:28

They choose to go there and knew the rules, if they didn't like the draconian rules - then don't flipping well go and break the rules and spend 2 weeks in prison - simple really if you've got half a brain

JamieLeeCurtains · 04/10/2020 20:28

I had to google APILN

tulippa · 04/10/2020 20:29

The Isle of Man has super strict covid laws. I read about one woman who was jailed for stopping for petrol when she got off the ferry instead of going straight home to isolate.

Tempusfudgeit · 04/10/2020 20:31

Did anyone see the pictures of the men in the Daily Fail? One was wearing something that really shouldn't have got past the censors!

romeolovedjulliet · 04/10/2020 20:31

sad faces ? slapped arses more like !

Tempusfudgeit · 04/10/2020 20:33

Here you go!

hibbledibble · 04/10/2020 20:34

14 days jail is Draconian. In the UK mainland people do far, far worse and don't go to jail. A fine would have been sufficient.

Who benefits from jailing these men?

Covid free is also a bold claim. I think 'no confirmed cases for x time' is more accurate, as unless there is regular, population wide testing, you cannot know if there are cases, that go undetected.

jessstan1 · 04/10/2020 20:34

@Treesofwood

Yes great sad faces. But going to prison for two weeks for going to Tesco to buy some lunch? Hello?
Exactly. I'd be sad if someone I loved went to prison for something so trivial. A moderate fine would have sufficed.
Imfromhere · 04/10/2020 20:34

@Tempusfudgeit that's brilliant Grin

Tempusfudgeit · 04/10/2020 20:36

I think the point of the 14 days is that it's enforcing the quarantine period that they seem unwilling to adhere to.

ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 04/10/2020 20:38

@Tempusfudgeit

I think the point of the 14 days is that it's enforcing the quarantine period that they seem unwilling to adhere to.
It's a bit daft also when they were only supposed to be there for 2 days.

I guess it would've been ok for them to go home at the end of the two days. As long as they didn't make a pit stop.

Imfromhere · 04/10/2020 20:39

@hibbledibble
The island has had 4 cases confined in last few weeks. These are not out in the community but in people like these men or residents who have returned to the island.

The reason that it's not out in the community being spread by these people is because they FOLLOWED THE RULES. They have arrived and gone straight into their 14 day isolation. That shows that the IOM Government strategy is working if the rules are obeyed.

RizzleDrizzle · 04/10/2020 20:40

All of the people objecting answer me this

Say some massive technical thing that needed doing in the uk infrastructure no one in the uk had the qualifications to do it. came over from somewhere with a virus that hasn’t reached the uk, the uk were aware of it but very quickly limited travel, allowed the villages and towns to operate but in safe conditions, and therefore had remained virus free. Now these people had to come but there were certain very strict regulations about what they could and couldn’t do.

The contract they signed meant they agreed to those conditions and regulations,
They told at their accommodation what those regulations are, their even told by their supervisor as they walk out the office door and break those rules, rules that are laws. And they just pop to Tesco’s cos they want a beer for their hotel.

How would you feel? What would you want Boris Johnson to do? You’d be baying saying the police were in comipant how could Boris let these people in, why should the uk suffer.

Yet you think it’s ok that these idiots do exactly that in the IOM?
Somewhere that’s not part of the uk?

Yes you think it’s ridiculous by uk laws, they weren’t in the UK.

romeolovedjulliet · 04/10/2020 20:41

@ivykaty44

They choose to go there and knew the rules, if they didn't like the draconian rules - then don't flipping well go and break the rules and spend 2 weeks in prison - simple really if you've got half a brain
this.