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Mum says she wishes she never had children as 'life was better without them'

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toothfairy73 · 03/10/2020 17:31

I have just seen this headline in a Newspaper. A anonymous mum has written this letter stating the above.

apple.news/A7zR8oawtR6OFxqP2tijb6g

What are your thoughts? I'm sure we have all had moments where we miss our old lives. It sounds like it is written by someone deeply unhappy and in need of some support. AIBU to think this is someone who is desperate for a bit of time alone and some support?What do you think?

OP posts:
corythatwas · 04/10/2020 16:58

Having children must, I imagine, completely change the dynamic of your relationship with your partner.

Again I'd say that is an incredibly individual thing (and a real pity it can't be predicted). For dh and I, I'd say it brought us closer, like any other shared interest.

There was also a sense of bonding in times of adversity- a bit like when we used to go mountain hiking- I doubt our particular bond would have been as strengthened by relaxing on
lounge chairs by the pool. A sense of common purpose. But it is very individual.

As for not being a couple first- I'm not sure we didn't always have many facets to our lives. Being part of a couple was important but so was my profession: that's been "who I am" for longer than being with dh. I come from a very outdoors culture so feeling close to nature is also very important to my identity. Being a couple always was one aspect of our lives.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 04/10/2020 16:58

Perhaps this speaks more loudly of our society, the pressure which conventional expectation puts upon people, and, particularly, the assumptions attached to a word which I suspect in most cultures has very emotive meanings attached to it: 'mother'. The very fact that people are expected to be horrified when a mother admits to struggling, or not taking to her maternal relationship and family obligations like a duck to water, is a case in point. And the fact that this so often comes up as an area of very heated debate is testimony to the fact that the horror does exist.

When fathers struggle with fatherhood, the condemnation doesn't run nearly as deeply. I think we need to be unpicking some of these unsafe, damaging, 'gendered' (ugh how sick I am of that word) assumptions that are at the root of this misery for some people.

We had one child. I struggled for a decade to carry a pregnancy to term, and my multiple miscarriages of 5 much longed-for babies mean I'm also not in a position to comment dispassionately. I cherish motherhood and my child more than anything. I have never regretted it. I was never able to have more children, and this I did regret. But maintaining a career (which I love) and having time to devote to family life would have been much more difficult with two.

For one thing, I would never 'judge' a mother who speaks this way. I think it's more imperative to unpick the reasons why, for women (as always), these matters are always so emotive and difficult.

Flowers for anyone who is struggling.

corythatwas · 04/10/2020 16:58

Useruser that sounds incredibly tough. Flowers

Flappingduckfeet · 04/10/2020 17:02

I don't regret it but I regret not feeling like I am a good enough

I think this is key. Women nowadays are expected to live up to ridiculously high standards at home and in the workplace while running marathons on the side. No wonder we feel resentful and disatisfied when we can't fulfill current expectations. And parenting has become so much more complex since our parents day when keeping a child safe, fed, clean and in school was "good enough".

Merriden · 04/10/2020 17:08

@CarolVordermansBum

I often wish I could just get up and go out, have a lie in, stay in bed if I'm ill, have a night out, enjoy a meal in peace, etc etc.

But my issue is that I regret having children with a partner who wasn't willing to help me out. I wish I'd had children with someone who was willing to help with night feeds, school runs, cooking, cleaning, someone to watch them while I take the dog out or go to the dentist. I don't actually regret having kids, I love them more than anything, and they do bring me so much joy and happiness. Its just tough going sometimes.

This is exactly how I feel
BewilderedDoughnut · 04/10/2020 17:13

This thread should be shown to every woman who doesn’t yet have children.

It may save a lot of people a lot of heartache!

munchkinman · 04/10/2020 17:23

My mum always said that to me. It is sad. X

GettingUntrapped · 04/10/2020 17:33

It sad, and it's sad for our children that we are in this situation where being a mother human is too hard for a mother human to bear. But we need to see it for what it is.

Singlenotsingle · 04/10/2020 17:35

My DIL misses her old life, going out drinking, clubbing and generally enjoying herself. It wasn't so difficult when my DC were tiny, even though I had no help at all. The kids played out most of the time and we didn't have to entertain them 24/7.

Meuniere · 04/10/2020 17:35

@GettingUntrapped

Perhaps we have to face up to the fact that it isn't us being 'bad mums'. Knowing that in itself is a lot to take in and absorb. Men take too much of us, especially when we have children. It entraps us, and doesn't need to.
That with bells on!!
Saxineno · 04/10/2020 17:35

My mum used to tell me regularly if she had her time again, she wouldn’t have kids. Made me feel really shit!
I’ve never once, even for a second regretting having my kids. I’m really surprised so many parents have!

simiisme · 04/10/2020 17:36

It's a shame that people don't consider the consequences before they have children. Yet people who are childless by choice are often called 'selfish' - I find that weird.
Children are not for everyone, but you'd have to be really thick to think that your life wouldn't change once you have them. They're slightly more of a commitment than a kitten or a puppy.
I adore my two, struggled with fertility issues for years so every cell in their body is wanted and precious to me. Me and my husband did not spend a night without them until our 10th wedding anniversary, but that was fine, I didn't resent it.
Aged 18 and 16 they're increasingly independent and I love watching the marvellous, mature young men that they're becoming.

Busymum45 · 04/10/2020 17:42

Its good that people can be honest, I think its hard and tiring when children are little, its mentally hard when they are teenagers but the good should outweigh the bad hopefully for most ....

Meuniere · 04/10/2020 17:43

FWIW all the studies show that people are happier wo children than with children until they get older and the order is reversed (when said dcs have left home?)

Busymum45 · 04/10/2020 17:43

To add, once they are older you can go out again on spur of the moment and do all those things again :)

Harls1969 · 04/10/2020 17:44

I've loved being a mum since my daughter was born almost 23 years ago. I still loved it when her brother came along 4 years later. There have been some tough times but I've never ever regretted it and for me, having kids was the best thing I ever did. But it's ok to not want kids and it's ok to have them and regret it...as long as the kids never know

BewilderedDoughnut · 04/10/2020 17:46

The ones that annoy me the most are the “I never wanted children until I met my husband and fell in love” stories. It’s all fun and games until you’ve lost your freedom, your career and haven’t had sex in two years and his life is otherwise normal.

So cliche but it happens over and over.

CharityRoyall · 04/10/2020 17:50

As someone who’s currently TTC I’m reading this thread with interest. I’ve always wanted children - not in a single minded “I was born to be a mummy” way, but it was something I knew I’d like to do. Partner and I are both 30 with big supportive families and financially secure.
I also think I have some of an idea of what raising children takes as I nannied 4 children for 3 years which was HARD work. I lived in and the parents worked away a lot so I was with them on my own for a hell of a lot of time, including weekends (fantastic money but draining).
I wouldn’t have 4 myself as it was very hard work but nothing I couldn’t handle. However I’m aware that’s probably very different when they’re your own children. I do wonder what some people expect when they have kids though.
I haven’t had the most adventurous life but I’ve travelled, sown some wild oats, had a brilliant time with friends. I really feel I’m ready for the next step now with more responsibility, and due to my previous nannying career I know a fair amount of what to expect.
My partner is also incredibly responsible, family orientated and hands on. My ex boyfriend was childish, lazy and reliant on me/his mum with occasional mental health issues. The older I got the more I began to realise I would never ever procreate with him as it would be miserable for me. That’s not to say my current partner would never change because who knows, but I really don’t think he would.
To echo some other posters I think the factors to consider are choice of partner, finances, family support, your own personality type/preferred lifestyle, and potential SEN/ASD/disabilities in your child. If you and your partner like being spontaneous, travelling loads and spending long boozy nights down the pub every weekend then you’ll probably struggle more than someone like me who is already a boring old cow at 30! SEN conditions worry me I must say, but I can’t control that.

Sudoku88 · 04/10/2020 17:51

I really love my kids and a huge part of my life has been totally devoted to them, but my god, I can’t wait for them to grow up and leave for university.

I can’t wait to have time on my own, not to have to share a home with them (and all their mess). For me to be able to go off and start living my life for myself and doing my own things.

I would feel terrible regret if I had not had kids, but now I feel I want to move on to the next phase of my life. I have largely had to bring them up on my own as my partner works abroad and I have had enough of the daily routine/ drudgery (so as to speak).

DonaPatrizia · 04/10/2020 17:52

I don’t have kids - I strongly felt I would have regretted it if I did - but there is definitely a lot of social pressure on people like me. I’m very happily married, have a great career, family and friends.
Despite this, I am sometimes openly criticised, pitied and patronised for my child free choice.
I have pat answers - when told I’ll end up old and alone I respond with: ‘You say that like it’s a bad thing’ and when asked if I have kids I reply ‘just a childish husband). Interestingly, no-one ever gives DH a hard time and the people having a go at me are, with only one exception, other women. It would be better if women felt able to choose to be child free without stigma.

PerveenMistry · 04/10/2020 17:53

@GettingUntrapped

It sad, and it's sad for our children that we are in this situation where being a mother human is too hard for a mother human to bear. But we need to see it for what it is.
It's not sad on an overheated planet teeming with 8 billion humans.

Childfree is a viable, pleasant and socially beneficial life choice.

BewilderedDoughnut · 04/10/2020 17:54

@Sudoku88 I really love my kids and a huge part of my life has been totally devoted to them, but my god, I can’t wait for them to grow up and leave for university

There are no guarantees. My brothers are both still living at home at 35 and 40 years old. My parents have actually considered leaving the house they love and never coming back.

YouJustDoYou · 04/10/2020 17:57

Children can utterly destroy what was otherwise an amazing relationship.not everyone can hack kids. And the sad part? The men just usually up and leave when the going gets tough, and it's the women left with the raising duties.

KylieKangaroo · 04/10/2020 17:58

@bewildereddoughnut my parents did that and one of my brothers followed them to their new smaller house Grin

violetindigolilac · 04/10/2020 17:59

I did regret it. My son was unplanned and I've never been maternal. Now he's 17 the regret is a memory however I now have a lot of worry for him over what a covid infested near future holds, he isn't getting the education he would have done ordinarily.

As others have said, a big part of the problem was my son's father.

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