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To tell my friend her behaviour was odd...?

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pollymadetea · 23/09/2020 07:36

I met a friend for a walk / picnic yesterday.
We’ve both got small babies (6 months)

It’s the first chance we’ve had to meet and I was really looking forward to it.

Turns out I found the afternoon quite stressful and didn’t enjoy it.

We started off having a walk but every few minutes she was reminding me to stay away from her and the baby and pointing out that I had broken the 2m “barrier”.

I hadn’t done this on purpose and I’m well aware of how to distance, but some paths were smaller than others so it wasn’t possible to be exactly two meters apart, although we weren’t far off!!
Yet she kept pointing out that I was less than 2m.

I’d taken a lunch bag with me and the basket in my pram was already quite full, she didn’t have anything in hers so I asked if I could put my lunch bag under her pram.

She told me it wasn’t safe for me to do that because it’s risking spreading Covid.
I didn’t say anything about this, I just carried my own bag.

We sat down and ate our picnic and I suggested we let the babies play together but she was really against this idea and said the babies should distance.

As we were leaving and packing up, her sons blanket fell from the pram, I picked it up and gave it to her and she told me she didn’t want to take that now and I shouldn’t have touched it as it’s not safe and it’s how Covid spreads.
I apologised and told her I’d sanitised my hands after we’d eaten.

She told me to just put it under the pram, which I did.

She then said she would walk back to the car alone as the path was too small for us to distance so we said our goodbyes and we left.

She’s messaged saying she had a lovely day and would I like to do it again.

But I didn’t really have a lovely day, I felt on edge around her and I think I’d feel the same if we were to meet again.

Should I tell her that she was being too extreme? Or is it that I’m too relaxed??

OP posts:
shesfancy · 23/09/2020 15:31

@emilyfrost

YABU. You are far, far too relaxed and not at all careful.

Of course passing items between each other is increasing risk, of course placing items in each other’s pram baskets is a risk, of course letting the babies roll around together on the same blanket is a risk.

You aren’t taking it seriously and she had to keep reminding you of this.

@emilyfrost

This is really interesting. I’ve just made a post about this in relation to coffee shops and restaurants.

I agree it’s not safe to pass items to each other, so why is it safe to have a coffee from a cup someone has just touched before you!!

catgirl1976 · 23/09/2020 15:46

She's following the guidance. Not sure why you object to this to be honest.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 23/09/2020 15:49

Wow that would drive me mad
She sounds anxious and one of those Facebook nutters that are loving the covid drama.
Not for me I'm afraid .

Goldenhedgehogs · 23/09/2020 16:01

I think this friend is hard work, if she was that bothered about the 2m rule then on the path she could have dropped back and if asked or the distance became to small said something like "Let's walk separately for this bit, I get worried when the distance between us gets less than 2m due to Covid." It's the accusation of "you getting closer than 2m" making it your fault, that would annoy me. Honestly, she might be struggling with PND (but that's for her and her family, health visitor to recognise and support her with) or she might be the type of person that likes to enforce rules in others without thinking about what she could be doing. You don't need this drama in your life, send the polite text about meeting up when life is less stressful and don't give it another thought.

Asterion · 23/09/2020 16:13

@Puffalicious

YANBU Her behaviour was completely extreme. We all need to live through this, if she wants to live in such restrictive conditions her choice, but I'd be making it clear that I find it uncomfortable and I won't be meeting until she's willing to be more flexible.

I say this as someone sitting here with Covid right now.

So you think the friend was being "completely extreme", and yet you're sitting there having contracted Covid. Okaaaaayyyyy...
Eckhart · 23/09/2020 16:44

@pollymadetea Why do you think she shouldn't be following the guidance?

Puffalicious · 23/09/2020 16:57

Yes Asterion I'm a school teacher so contracted it through no fault of anyone, it's inevitable for many of us. I feel that we can't live in such confined circumstances, it's not natural. If we all do our best to meet outside, social distance and not share food/ items that's all we can do: I'd rather meet a friend who acknowledged that and then concentrated on having a positive time, not stressing like the OPs friend.

Puffalicious · 23/09/2020 16:57

*OP's friend

saussaggessandmasshh · 23/09/2020 17:00

Someone that anxious really shouldn't be meeting up with people.

If they can't cope then stay at home.

Life has to start getting back to normal.

It is possible to follow the rules without being absolutely miserable and so strict it sucks every last bit of joy out of life.

She's forgetting that as far as you are aware you do not even have covid. And even if you did and were asymptomatic the chances of passing it on outside and following the rule the way you were would be very very small.

thepeopleversuswork · 23/09/2020 17:19

saussaggessandmasshh

Beautifully put.

Asterion · 23/09/2020 18:04

@Puffalicious

Yes Asterion I'm a school teacher so contracted it through no fault of anyone, it's inevitable for many of us. I feel that we can't live in such confined circumstances, it's not natural. If we all do our best to meet outside, social distance and not share food/ items that's all we can do: I'd rather meet a friend who acknowledged that and then concentrated on having a positive time, not stressing like the OPs friend.
Sounds to me like the friend was trying to have a positive time - while sensibly following the guidelines.

saussaggessandmasshh - life can't "get back to normal" yet. People trying to do that is what's causing the rates to increase.

Daisyandbertie · 23/09/2020 19:17

@saussaggessandmasshh but she was trying to have a nice time while following the rules, she may have been strict but there’s nothing wrong with that. I think it’s harsh to say anyone who is anxious shouldn’t be meeting anyone. Friends should surely be understanding it’s not like she was asking for a three meter distance. Unless people start being stricter we’ll take even longer to get back to normal. We never know who has Covid so it makes sense to be careful.

upsidedownwavylegs · 23/09/2020 19:20

I had a six month old in April, when Covid was a much scarier prospect for most people, and I absolutely wouldn’t have had the emotional or physical energy to endure days out with a pain in the arse bossy woman having a go at me for passing her a blanket. If she’s so anxious she’s always got the option of staying in the house and letting you spend your day in an enjoyable way.

Puffalicious · 23/09/2020 20:35

Exactiy upside down. And Asterion there are ways to be careful without stressing everyone out round about you.

saussaggessandmasshh · 23/09/2020 20:46

[quote Daisyandbertie]@saussaggessandmasshh but she was trying to have a nice time while following the rules, she may have been strict but there’s nothing wrong with that. I think it’s harsh to say anyone who is anxious shouldn’t be meeting anyone. Friends should surely be understanding it’s not like she was asking for a three meter distance. Unless people start being stricter we’ll take even longer to get back to normal. We never know who has Covid so it makes sense to be careful.[/quote]
The impression I got was that the op was being sensible and her friend was obsessing over everything to the point it created an awkward atmosphere and spoiled the day.

saussaggessandmasshh · 23/09/2020 20:50

@Puffalicious

Exactiy upside down. And Asterion there are ways to be careful without stressing everyone out round about you.
This!

Sensible people will follow the rules and guidelines without obsessing and making people feel awkward.

trixiebelden77 · 23/09/2020 20:56

I’m sure you were following the rules, but she had to repeatedly ask you to distance yourself more. She’s really anxious, she showed that early on, but she still had to ask you again and again. Even if you thought she was extreme and OTT - you could see she was anxious. The kind thing to do would have been to back right off. Even now you’re being very dismissive of a friend who‘s clearly struggling with anxiety about this.

You might find you don’t need to tell her she’s too much, she might not want to socialise with you for a while.

Cadent · 23/09/2020 20:56

The trouble with someone like this is often they pick one person to pull this crap on and all these anxieties fly out the window when they’re with someone else who is a bit more dominant them.

Cadent · 23/09/2020 20:58

@trixiebelden77

I’m sure you were following the rules, but she had to repeatedly ask you to distance yourself more. She’s really anxious, she showed that early on, but she still had to ask you again and again. Even if you thought she was extreme and OTT - you could see she was anxious. The kind thing to do would have been to back right off. Even now you’re being very dismissive of a friend who‘s clearly struggling with anxiety about this.

You might find you don’t need to tell her she’s too much, she might not want to socialise with you for a while.

Did you even read OP’s posts? Read one from 15.02.
saussaggessandmasshh · 23/09/2020 21:00

@Asterion

Life needs to get back to normal as much as possible within the rules.

Normal can be going for a walk with a friend and keeping a safe distance without practically getting a tape measure out to check the exact distance.

Normal is not freaking out over passing a blanket over when it was dropped and refusing to share pram basket space 'because covid'.

I am following the rules and know I am careful and safe, but I would be very frustrated if someone I was supposed to be having a nice afternoon with wouldn't stop fussing over going an inch under 2m.

pollylocketpickedapocket · 23/09/2020 21:03

@CindersCatsSister

It sounds as though she is anxious and following the rules to the letter. Why don’t you meet her in an environment that’s easier to social distance in next time?
She met her outdoors, where else do you suggest that is easier to social distance??

Op, dont feel bad , she was being utterly ridiculous, she should've stayed home, honestly what is this world becoming?

pollylocketpickedapocket · 23/09/2020 21:05

@FenellaMaxwell

I think it’s a bit of both - you aren’t being careful and she is clearly anxious. Maybe try and focus on helping her with her anxiety rather than the fact you didn’t have fun.
Bollocks, op is behaving fine and her friend needs to deal with herself and stay home if normal life is so "dangerous" Seriously, this is getting beyond a joke
pollylocketpickedapocket · 23/09/2020 21:07

@Cadent

The trouble with someone like this is often they pick one person to pull this crap on and all these anxieties fly out the window when they’re with someone else who is a bit more dominant them.
True
pollylocketpickedapocket · 23/09/2020 21:11

@trixiebelden77

I’m sure you were following the rules, but she had to repeatedly ask you to distance yourself more. She’s really anxious, she showed that early on, but she still had to ask you again and again. Even if you thought she was extreme and OTT - you could see she was anxious. The kind thing to do would have been to back right off. Even now you’re being very dismissive of a friend who‘s clearly struggling with anxiety about this.

You might find you don’t need to tell her she’s too much, she might not want to socialise with you for a while.

The "kind" thing to to do would've been to piss off and leave the silly mare to her own devices!

She was being ridiculous and why leave home if you're that anxious???
It isn't everyone else's responsibility to placate your idiotic fears.

Jakey056 · 23/09/2020 21:11

I would give her a much wider berth than 2m - like 2 miles. I feel sorry for her kid. She should read up on Covid (and get some CBT)

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