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Original poster

To wonder what the ‘sweeping new measures’ will be?

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Greatthumbsdown · 19/09/2020 15:30

As covered widely in the media, Boris Johnson is now said to be considering ‘sweeping new measures’ for the whole UK, sooner rather than later. What do people think these will be? No mixing between households? Pubs closed at 10pm?

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SeasonFinale · 19/09/2020 15:36

2nd lockdown

Gancanny · 19/09/2020 15:37

Whatever they bring in is going to have low compliance unless its ultra-strict because there are already a lot of people who think the current rules are optional and make no sense, but if they make it ultra-strict then they risk tanking the economy further and damaging education and wider public health as side effects.

Either way the government will flub it and pass the blame like they have with every other decision during this crisis.

Original poster
Greatthumbsdown · 19/09/2020 15:38

2nd lockdown like we had before? They’re not going to shut schools/work shops again though surely?

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Thedogscollar · 19/09/2020 15:43

Yep I think they areSad

Sparklesocks · 19/09/2020 15:48

I honestly don’t know. But I can’t imagine the government would be willing to extend the furlough scheme.

vanillandhoney · 19/09/2020 15:50

No mixing of households, I think. Possibly curfews on pubs/restaurants. Stricter social distancing.

ballsdeep · 19/09/2020 15:51

@Thedogscollar

Yep I think they areSad
They won't shut schools. We've had to make plans for socially distanced classes (Wales) where half the class would be in one day, the other half the next and a Friday off for planning and cleaning.
vanillandhoney · 19/09/2020 15:51

I don't think there'll be a second lockdown as furlough is due to end soon and they won't want to extend it further. Lockdown plus no furlough would kill so many industries dead and unemployment would skyrocket.

bluebeck · 19/09/2020 15:54

I do hope that if they shut hospitality venues, they provide furlough for those staff.

What they should do is bring back the mandatory shielding so that people who are at risk are not having to go out to work. I don't know why it was paused to be honest.

Sunflowergirl1 · 19/09/2020 15:56

Waste of time. We can't keep getting locked down. Only 10 weeks since we were released last time. The only realistic option is the Swedish approach as even if the vaccine works it will be 12 months before any number of people have had it

Flittingaboutagain · 19/09/2020 15:56

There is a thread on here about laptops and teachers are saying they have been told by DfE to prepare online only learning from end of September in case schools have to shut.

sueelleker · 19/09/2020 15:57

Telling us to use our own judgement; and look how well that worked last time!

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Greatthumbsdown · 19/09/2020 15:58

@Flittingaboutagain

There is a thread on here about laptops and teachers are saying they have been told by DfE to prepare online only learning from end of September in case schools have to shut.
Oh god
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anorangeaday · 19/09/2020 15:58

I’ve heard they’re shutting down a week after October half term, so kids only miss a week off school, but its 2 weeks in total for everyone

anorangeaday · 19/09/2020 15:58

But I’ve heard this from friends, I’m definitely not a reputable source

ineedaholidaynow · 19/09/2020 15:59

@bluebeck to let those people have a bit of life, not just be shut away. I assume shielding may be brought back though

EvilPea · 19/09/2020 16:00

@anorangeaday

I’ve heard they’re shutting down a week after October half term, so kids only miss a week off school, but its 2 weeks in total for everyone
That seems a long time away in the scheme of the numbers we are seeing
OhTheRoses · 19/09/2020 16:03

We had a hard lockdown in March but no masks and still shopped for groceries. It went on and on and there was little immunity build-up. We now have three mechanisms to treat the virus in those who are very unwell. The majority of people will not be very unwell.

Continue with masks
Continue with social distancing
Keep schools and universities open
Keep shops open
Keep workplaces open
Step up cleanliness
Stop households mixing indoors except for registered support bubbles
Rule of six outside
Curfew bars and restaurants
Keep theatres, stadiums, cinemas closed, nightclubs closed
Query gyms
Only essential foreign travel and quarantine/testing
Vulnerable shielding continues if those people wish
Sort out the testing fiasco
Consider anti-body testing

I can't see how it's in anyone's best interest to lock down again. I would only contemplate a lockdown if the NHS gets overwhelmed.

PTW1234 · 19/09/2020 16:03

Circuit breaks, it will be one of many we have to do IMO to reduce transmission.

2-3 weeks of either:

National restrictions on movements, e.g public transport for essential reasons, no leaving current town/city/borough for larger cities unless it’s essential

Takeaways only, pubs shut at 10pm

Schools stay open

OR

National lockdown, schools and non essential business shut, but over the October half term so pupils only miss 1 week of education.

(Are all kids off at the same time in October through the uk?)

Or he will shut the pubs at 10pm, give a baffled message about avoiding a national lockdown in October that nobody listens to...

Silversun83 · 19/09/2020 16:04

@Flittingaboutagain

There is a thread on here about laptops and teachers are saying they have been told by DfE to prepare online only learning from end of September in case schools have to shut.
Is that just secondary schools?
blue25 · 19/09/2020 16:04

I believe schools here are preparing for two weeks on, two weeks off.

Givemeabreakpls · 19/09/2020 16:05

@anorangeaday

I’ve heard they’re shutting down a week after October half term, so kids only miss a week off school, but its 2 weeks in total for everyone
Agree with EvilPea that this isn’t going to be soon enough. If the figures are doubling every 7-10 days we’ll have lost all control by mid October.
MadameBlobby · 19/09/2020 16:07

This is getting ridiculous

They were never going to be able to stop it spreading and people dying sadly. They can’t keep screwing the country for something that will happen anyway. All lockdown does is delay things not stop them. There’s still plenty of capacity in the NHS. Surely their fancy modelling can help them work out when that will approach capacity and tailor measures from that.

felineflutter · 19/09/2020 16:08

Yup to far away now. I think everyone is hoping to stretch it to half term but maybe that'd not possible unless everything else is locked down?

MadameBlobby · 19/09/2020 16:08

@OhTheRoses

We had a hard lockdown in March but no masks and still shopped for groceries. It went on and on and there was little immunity build-up. We now have three mechanisms to treat the virus in those who are very unwell. The majority of people will not be very unwell.

Continue with masks
Continue with social distancing
Keep schools and universities open
Keep shops open
Keep workplaces open
Step up cleanliness
Stop households mixing indoors except for registered support bubbles
Rule of six outside
Curfew bars and restaurants
Keep theatres, stadiums, cinemas closed, nightclubs closed
Query gyms
Only essential foreign travel and quarantine/testing
Vulnerable shielding continues if those people wish
Sort out the testing fiasco
Consider anti-body testing

I can't see how it's in anyone's best interest to lock down again. I would only contemplate a lockdown if the NHS gets overwhelmed.

Agreed