To wonder what the ‘sweeping new measures’ will be?

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As covered widely in the media, Boris Johnson is now said to be considering ‘sweeping new measures’ for the whole UK, sooner rather than later. What do people think these will be? No mixing between households? Pubs closed at 10pm?

@Flittingaboutagain Oooh where does it say that about schools? Or is it just secondary? We (primary) have been told precisely nothing!

Crikey, if that’s happening I need to look into getting some kind of boosting device for our crappy rural WiFi at home. Before we went back in June it kept cutting out in the middle of Zooms (which was quite frankly a relief, with my then 18 month old loudly gatecrashing every single session 🤦🏻‍♀️).

@MadameBlobby

This is getting ridiculous

They were never going to be able to stop it spreading and people dying sadly. They can’t keep screwing the country for something that will happen anyway. All lockdown does is delay things not stop them. There’s still plenty of capacity in the NHS. Surely their fancy modelling can help them work out when that will approach capacity and tailor measures from that.

There is crap capacity in the NHS on a non covid winter day, let alone add covid in. Don't know why people keep saying that there is capacity!

If you wait until we are completely overwhelmed, it'll be too late to do anything. Everyone moaned last time that they didn't act quick enough so it's good that they are thinking about acting quickly.

My eldest dd who has just started year 10 has been told she is getting a laptop from school next week so I think it another long lock down I'm gutted if that happens as my youngest only started reception this week

@Aworldofmyown

We won't have another full on lockdown. Its impossible, the country can't afford it. It will be a case of nothing fun happening at all. Go to school/work come home. Only outside with family you live with etc etc

I think this too.

Only leave the house for work, school or essential shopping. No socialising with others anywhere. Tbh I can cope with that if ds is in school and my hospital (which is already full and will be overwhelmed next week unless something happens) is ok.

Ball dog...where in Wales? I haven't heard this but then my head is crap at communication.

Schools will not close again....honestly people love drama, they are desperate for it.

Oh and to confirm I am a school governor and there has been nothing from the DfE to suggest a school closure.

Schools are planning for a mix of home and in school learning and giving our laptops where possible, so that if bubbles have to isolate, the children can continue learning at home.

A teacher friend also said that secondaries would close before primaries.

@yomommasmomma

Schools will not close again....honestly people love drama, they are desperate for it.

we had threads and threads back in March stating that schools would NEVER close, parents could not possibly manage with their children, it was simply not possible, it would NEVER happen.

If people were a bit more responsible and stop confusing their small opinion with facts, we wouldn't need another lockdown and further restrictions.

@Silversun83 No, not just secondary schools, we've had an email from our primary school, saying that all schools have to have an online learning platform in place, for the end of September.

I cannot envisage an extra week tucked on to half-term.

We were due to have 11+ exams in September. When they knew that would be impossible, they sought permission from the DFE to defer until the week commencing 5th November (the week after half-term).

We are a wholly selective county, there are NO comprehensives. Traditionally you know the results of the 11+ before applying for a secondary place, we have to waste at least one of our choices on the chance our children may pass.

It would be logistically impossible to reschedule, let alone for the poor kids who have been psyched up to take it.

It stands to reason that the more people mix inside the more complacent they become, hence why there has to be a ban on all household gatherings.

Pubs should close completely IMO, there’s no point in a curfew, woman on BBC this morning saying that it doesn’t matter if the pubs close early, they’ll just go out earlier. So close them altogether.

It’s easy to blame the government, but plenty of people are responsible for this spread. The mask refuses/the people flocking to the beaches/the people going on pub crawls. And even on this thread people saying they don’t care what measures are brought in, they’ll do as they like. No wonder the numbers are going up.

@Southwest12 this is why areas on lockdown are seeing rising cases, you have never been allowed to meet friends and family out in the pub or at a restaurant. You were allowed to go out with your household only.

All I know is this government has fucked up. We'd have been better off just investing all that money in the NHS to get the capacity for this.

We were told to prepare two weeks of home learning from day one back. It won’t be curriculum linked so that it can be used at any point in the year. We have also just surveyed parents re IT availability because we discovered many of our families only had access to one pay as you go phone, which meant that technically they had online access but not practically. This is primary.

It doesn't matter, people like the superspreader in Bolton won't follow it

Therein lies the problem. It will keep spreading whilst ignorant, selfish oxygen stealers like them are not complying.

If people had been handed £10,000 for breaking quarantine and it was well known, idiots like that wouldn't laugh at the guidelines.

No mixing of households
10pm closing for pubs
Wfh if you can

I can't see then doing anything more than that.

What has happened to the Bolton Superspreader? Fine? Sentence? Stocks? Stocks would be good but instead of rotten veg, get the sick to cough on him.

It’s well known that there are certAin areas where covid is speeding in pubs and households. They know where the main rise in cases is stemming from.

They should try sealing some of these areas off with the bloody army rather than putting the rest of us through the wringer time and time again.

Dunno but I just wish they would say so we can deal with whatever it is. I'm giving birth in the next week or so and the uncertainty is really getting to me but I would be fine if I knew what I was dealing with, even if the worst lockdown (which I doubt it will be)

you have never been allowed to meet friends and family out in the pub or at a restaurant.

Yes you have, as long as you were only 2 households.

And you had to SD when you did meet another household in a pub etc (this is in England not sure about other places)

The only realistic option is the Swedish approach as even if the vaccine works it will be 12 months before any number of people have had it

For the umpteenth time, the Swedish approach has not been a success. Comparing their numbers to ours is false equivalence, as is comparing how our society behaves to theirs. They fared better in economic terms not because there was no legal lockdown, (they achieved a similar level of lockdown on a voluntary basis as other countries did) but because unlike other countries in Europe, they do not depend on tourism to boost the economy. The contracted level of spend by Swedes was the same as other countries, despite places remaining open. The only real difference in Sweden was what happened with schools. Swedes are not carrying on life as normal, they just don’t need the government to force them to behave in a way that restricts the spread. Their response to Covid has resulted in the same number of people being infected so they haven’t achieved anything more than we have, instead they have a much higher number of deaths than their Scandinavian neighbours.

You were supposed to social distance, but you were allowed to meet them.

@Greatthumbsdown

As covered widely in the media, Boris Johnson is now said to be considering ‘sweeping new measures’ for the whole UK, sooner rather than later. What do people think these will be? No mixing between households? Pubs closed at 10pm?

If the new measures are just those you mention, that won't be much different to what we've had and won't affect everyone anyway.

I've no idea what he is going to propose and at this minute, I doubt he does; he makes it up as he goes along.

Can anyone remind me of the point of masks if cases are now rising as quickly as they were in Feb before we had to wear them?

They aren’t. Before lockdown, the number of cases was doubling every 3-4 days, now it’s 7-8 days. The difference being SD, sanitising and masks, plus limits on the size of gatherings.