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To buy a gift even though they've asked for money?

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lasangoles · 19/09/2020 08:28

Not sure how to feel about this. My friend has asked me not to buy her and her partner a gift for the birth of their first baby. I was just going to get them something little each, a couple of little things that I found really helpful at beginning of my mat leave. They'd only come to about £12 but I don't have much money and am a lone parent to a toddler myself. I would feel a bit shit just presenting them with a tenner! Would you just stick a measly tenner in a card? Or buy the gift anyway?

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TheKeatingFive · 19/09/2020 17:07

I will listen to thir wish. Why the hell wouldn't I? Why wouldn't anyone?

Well this is what I think. Assuming you actually like the person in question (though perhaps this isn’t a given on these threads) why wouldn’t your instinct to be to get them what they actually want?

Mlb123 · 19/09/2020 17:11

How about money and a gift but you search for a bargain and only pay a few pounds and you then give them 10 pounds because then you won't feel shit presenting them with ten pounds and you are not spending much over your 12 pounds budget. It's traditional to buy the baby a gift rather than give parents money anyway so you can always say you bought gifts before you knew about wanting money x

Yesterdayforgotten · 19/09/2020 17:31

'I find stubborn giving of crap even when it goes against what receiver specifically said, a horrible attitude.'

You might be in the habit of giving crap but I know I'm certainly not and I'm sure op isnt either. I'm sure it would be well thought out with her friend in mind. Biscuit

Thisismytimetoshine · 19/09/2020 17:34

God almighty, a gift not being tailored to your exacting requirements doesn't render it crap.

Nobody deliberately seeks out shite to annoy their friends with.

SantaClaritaDiet · 19/09/2020 17:37

Whilst it's not something I would do, I really do not understand why people are so outraged at the idea of money. It saves you so much time and energy instead of looking for a present, what's not to like?

There was a brilliant thread asking for ideas to give a middle-age couple awhile ago. The difference in taste could not have been made clearer, what some posters judged would be a thoughtful and lovely gift was just a pile of tat for others.

Everybody believe they have taste. Problem is, even your friend don't have the same one...The OP solution is perfect, why forcing "gifts" on people when they will only end up in the bin?

SantaClaritaDiet · 19/09/2020 17:39

a gift not being tailored to your exacting requirements doesn't render it crap.

"useless clutter" if you prefer.. who wants to impose this on their own friends?

I love wedding gift lists, and baby gift list are not such a bad idea.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/09/2020 17:39

Aaaah. I cracked it!
It's not about the money really, is it.

It's about the pride of "I give good gifts and I will prove it even if people don't want it".

Got it. 😁

TheKeatingFive · 19/09/2020 17:40

See, the gift giver is not best placed to judge how good the gift is.

Fact is, plenty of baby gifts miss the mark, whether that’s to do with differing tastes, things that just aren’t used by people, too many outfits at a particular age range, getting the season wrong. Etc, etc.

Many baby gift get regifted or sent to a charity shop.

markzuckerbergsgreytshirt · 19/09/2020 17:41

Won't the food cost as much as a gift if not more? If you can't afford it and you're my friend I wouldn't want to put you in a difficult position financially.

TheKeatingFive · 19/09/2020 17:41

The difference in taste could not have been made clearer, what some posters judged would be a thoughtful and lovely gift was just a pile of tat for others.

Exactly

JingsMahBucket · 19/09/2020 17:52

This NY Times article from December 2016 perfectly encapsulates what some of us are saying. www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/science/science-of-gift-giving.html. Here are a few excerpts from the article:

The Perfect Gift? It’s the One They Asked For
They have found that gifts go wrong because the givers are focused on the moment of exchange, whereas the recipients are thinking long-term: Will I actually get any use out of this?

Let your recipients do the work for you. They know what they want better than you do. If they’ve asked for something, buy it instead of surprising them.

Psychologists have found people are happier getting items listed in their gift registry than unsolicited gifts, and in some cases they’re happier still to receive cash. (But one of the researchers, Francis Flynn of Stanford University, cites an exception: Don’t try giving your spouse cash.)

If someone hasn’t asked for anything, a gift card is an easy way to please, but don’t be too specific in choosing a store or a product. You may think a film buff would love a gift certificate for a movie theater, but they’d probably prefer something less restrictive, like a card allowing them to buy movies online, too, or some other indulgence that would never occur to you.

Mary Steffel, a psychologist at Northeastern University, and colleagues have found that the more specific a gift card is, the less likely it is to be redeemed.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/09/2020 17:57

Ha! Scienced😁

Yesterdayforgotten · 19/09/2020 18:12

'It's about the pride of "I give good gifts and I will prove it even if people don't want it".

Ehhh...no. The OP was worried about 10 pound in a card not looking enough if you bother to read the thread.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/09/2020 18:20

@Yesterdayforgotten

'It's about the pride of "I give good gifts and I will prove it even if people don't want it".

Ehhh...no. The OP was worried about 10 pound in a card not looking enough if you bother to read the thread.

Not op. Sorry. The other posters dead set on giving physical gift, rather than monetary. Op is cool
Yesterdayforgotten · 19/09/2020 18:20

'See, the gift giver is not best placed to judge how good the gift is.'

Oh dear only on MN is giving a gift seen as work of the devil...Hmm

Yesterdayforgotten · 19/09/2020 18:21

Yeah I agree a tenner in a card is fine as people should spend what they can afford. Sometimes when giving cash it can be hard to spend less.

MikeUniformMike · 19/09/2020 18:26

A friend used to buy his godson a book for every birthday. The child wasn't really into books and the mother would say that little godson would prefer a gift voucher. Friend still bought books for him.

That was all about what the giver wants to give and nothing to do with what a child would like.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/09/2020 18:27

@Yesterdayforgotten

Yeah I agree a tenner in a card is fine as people should spend what they can afford. Sometimes when giving cash it can be hard to spend less.
It is. Absolutely agree. When someone feels like that's too little, they should remind themselves that they are giving it to their friends. They won't mind. They will understand that's how it is.

To an enemies though... £1 whistles for the kids😁

Beebumble2 · 19/09/2020 18:28

How about a homemade cake or cookies, so that they have something to snack on or offer visitors. ( if visitors are allowed these days!)

TheKeatingFive · 19/09/2020 18:29

Oh dear only on MN is giving a gift seen as work of the devil

Honestly, the reading comprehension on here is getting worse and worse. I didn’t say anything remotely like that.

Yesterdayforgotten · 19/09/2020 18:32

TheKeatingFive you did and my reading comprehension is just fine thank you. You generalised that all gift givers couldn't judge whether it is a good gift and hence alluding to obviously having no idea what the person would like. You don't give gifts than obviously....Confused

gingerbeerandlemonade · 19/09/2020 18:32

I would just give them an outfit if they're like that. I always give first aid essentials (boring but often forgotten) such as snufflebabe, calpol, teething gel.etc. Even if they have it already (no-one has everything!) You can never have enough of the first aid bits.

anuffername · 19/09/2020 18:33

I think that the OP's friends have only resorted to mentioning money because they realise (as demonstrated perfectly on this thread) that some people just cannot grasp the very simple meaning of "no gifts please".

No gifts. None. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. No "token" gift - whatever the fuck that means.

Because I am buying them something that isnt a gift?
If it isn't a gift are you asking them to re-imburse you?
Is it a loan?

TheKeatingFive · 19/09/2020 18:34

You generalised that all gift givers couldn't judge whether it is a good gift

Yes.

That’s is absolutely not comparable with

giving a gift seen as work of the devil

If you think it is, I despair. Grin

newnameforthis123 · 19/09/2020 18:40

Disclaimer: I am VERY emotional today. But I think you AND your friends sound absolutely fucking lovely! The frozen meals gift is genius and will be a lifesaver for them - multiple times they will feel tired, on their knees and wishing they had some dinner to enjoy - and thanks to you they will! You sound lovely and your idea is too Thanks

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