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DH watching me on the baby monitor

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Watchingthebabymonitor · 09/09/2020 20:04

We have a video baby monitor in our house to watch the baby, obviously ! It’s always on; I’ve never thought much about it. It’s one of those that goes through to your phone and you can watch it wherever you are. However I’ve just found out that DH is logging in to it whilst he’s out and watching what’s going on when I’m by myself with kids. I don’t know how often or for how long. It does send notifications through to the phone when it senses movement.

I’m not happy with this...

So I thought I’d ask what you all thought...?

YABU - he can look on the baby monitor whenever he likes
YANBU - he shouldn’t be using the baby monitor like that

OP posts:
Burnthurst187 · 10/09/2020 10:54

If none of the kids are asleep just switch it off

SD1978 · 10/09/2020 10:56

So it's only in the children's bedrooms- not anywhere else in the house? So if you're not in the bedroom, then he's not able to see anyone? Your initial post made it sound as if the whole house had them- not juts the kids rooms. Either cover them, or don't use the kids rooms during the day and use the living room

Watchingthebabymonitor · 10/09/2020 11:41

@NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 Grin that made me laugh so thank you. Funny enough - to everybody else I have just turned it off now.

Also to answer another question that’s been asked a few times we got the camera actually to manage a specific problem with our child we were having - which is actually quite outing. Although I’m fairly sure that it he reads this he will know it was me; there can’t be too many people going through the exact same thing as me. But I don’t care anymore tbh.

Hello @june2007 are you DH?? Just wondering since I thought I’d made it clear why I don’t tell him things... I’m not being deliberately deceptive nor am I not telling him “important” things that he needs to know. Mainly trivial chit chat that I’ve stopped tbh - that is impossible with him so I’ve given up. But because I didn’t tell him these things I must be hiding something else. No I’m just mentally exhausted trying to reason with you about things that don’t actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

Since every comment is negative or aggressive back. If I mention something a friend has said the response is - oh well she’s a bloody idiot anyway. Or listing the persons faults. “DH did I tell you my sister got herself a puppy?” The response would be along the lines of - “well that’s irresponsible isn’t it ? I hope she doesn’t think she’ll be bringing it with her when she comes to visit. I don’t want a puppy in the house, how is she affording that? She cant buy a puppy she’s never got any money... has she had dogs before? Does she even know what she’s doing? I know what I’m doing perhaps I’ll offer my advice continually lecture her for ages on how to teach the dog. Can’t believe she’s done that....”

Don’t really know why I’m justifying myself to you but there you are - you’ve wanted me to bite on every comment you’ve made so hope you enjoy Smile

In terms of the other questions - I’m safe, I’m not in danger, he’s not violent but he is very manipulative and I spent a long time chasing my own tail over it all, and still - as the post last night shows - question sometimes whether I am being unreasonable.

I have changed in the last year or so and I no longer tolerate this crap from him. He knows I don't even like him the majority of the time and this definitely shows in my demeanour and also my reactions to things - however he is completely against separating and there are some things that make this very complex from my side. Not least of all because he’s the most stubborn and arrogant man on the planet and will simply drag it out as long as it takes If he even agrees to it happening and ruining the kids childhoods in the process; he will never leave and will continue to make my life hell if I dare to try and force it.

He’s currently playing the victim and I’m totally unreasonable for 1. Turning the camera off as he wasn’t spying he was helping (it’s my right to turn it off & he’s not annoyed about that but it keeps our family safe I’m told... that wasn’t why we got it & the outside cameras do that just as well thanks very much !) and 2. Telling him that he was spying on me again. As I knew it would be me in the wrong because it always is - except I’m not wrong and most of the time I’m right to be annoyed with his rubbish but he doesn’t see it. (I’m not perfect btw and sometimes I am wrong but I’m happy to tell him I am and say sorry, which I think is normal?) He’s so convinced he’s right about everything that I do feel like I’m going mad a lot of the time. He says it with such conviction ! I wish I had as much confidence as him I really do.

I honestly feel at my wits end and exhausted with it all all the time. I’m utterly miserable. But I have no where to go without selling the house we own, which he will never ever allow to happen.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 10/09/2020 11:55

OP,
You sound like you are in hell.

You are not powerless.

Please contact Women's Aid.

He doesn't get to decide if ye stay together.

Get advice by ringing Women's Aid.

You can force the sale of the house if ye separate.

Don't hesitate to contact the police if you feel threatened....this can happen without violence.

Start accumulating paperwork safely away.

Flowers
lazylinguist · 10/09/2020 12:05

Context is everything. Your dh is clearly a manipulative and controlling man. But that was clearly the case before the issue with the baby monitor. I wouldn't have minded my dh looking in on my dc (if we'd had a video baby monitor), but he's not controlling!

Mix56 · 10/09/2020 16:29

You can divorce him, even if he doesn't want to
You can sell the house even if he doesn't want to, or he can buy you out
You will most probably get at least half the equity
he can be obliged to pay CMS.
You do not have to live in this half life

mellowww · 10/09/2020 17:21

Your DH thinks you don't love him or want him, and he's right.

It's a bit chicken and egg - his spying/suspecting/trying to control/criticising may be because of low self esteem and he has been worried you didn't really want him. Maybe you once did, but now you don't.

But yes, it's a horrid prison now for you. You will need to gird your loins and get out. Go to a solicitor. Yes either he'll have to buy you out or sell and give you half.

All sounds a bit brutal but you just have to get on with it. Life's too short.

CSIblonde · 10/09/2020 18:19

Well done on turning the camera off OP. One thing though: you say you don't want to ruin you children's lives with a divorce. My DM was exactly like your DH. It was emotionally brutal ,I grew up constantly criticised, the endless stream of negativity & put downs anihilated me. I ended up with chronic depression, low self esteem , anxiety & ricocheting from one abusive man to another as I thought that's what relationships were like . Your childhood sets the template & pattern for future relationships & your emotional welfare. Please think about your children being around him & the relationship example it models to them.

Feellikedancingyeah · 10/09/2020 18:21

I would not tolerate that. Can you turn it off when you are at home with the children?

TorkTorkBam · 10/09/2020 19:26

Hang on, are you saying your plan is to live like this for 15-20 years (until the children have flown the nest) in order to delay the 1-2years of major shit that come with divorcing a dickhead? Are you sure you are going for the better easier option for you and the children there?

MindatWork · 10/09/2020 19:34

Honestly OP, you’re children will pick up on this as they get older if you stay and it will impact them. I can’t imagine growing up with a dad like that and it sounds like a miserable life for you - there’s little comfort in ‘not tolerating his crap’ when you’re still tying yourself up in mental knots and tip toeing around all the time, it sounds exhausting.

Please leave, or at least start taking steps in that direction. Is there anyone in real life you can talk it through with? I’m assuming other people in your family and social circle know what he’s like (judging by what you said about your sister?)

Throckmorton · 10/09/2020 19:50

He's an abusive controlling arse and you AND YOUR KIDS will be better off if you split. He can't stop the sale of the house if you split.

Maxabella2 · 10/09/2020 20:42

I’m sorry you’re having to go through this as I know first hand what it’s like.
My ex recorded me ,without me knowing,on camera and also audio and it’s really not normal-I can see that now.
Rest assured ,no matter what he says,you can sell the house and if needs be,a judge can do a court order that he must accept an offer if it’s within reason .
My ex tried to stop the sale of the fmh for 2 yrs by refusing multiple offers -if I’d have known this I could have moved on much faster.
Please don’t believe everything he tells you,he’s just trying to hold onto you in any way he can

Crankley · 10/09/2020 20:47

It's creepy and totally unacceptable. I wouldn't be surprised if he has installed cameras in other rooms. I googled and found this: www.wikihow.com/Find-Hidden-Cameras. I think you also need to check your phone/computer for a keylogger or other software.

You sound like you've had enough OP. If I were you I would ask MNHQ to move your thread to the Relationships Board where you will get the advice you need for taking steps to leave your DH. You may start with baby steps but they will help you work towards your ultimate goal.

I wish you the very best.

alwaysraining123 · 10/09/2020 21:03

So clearly I’m a weirdo too. I login to ours and watch my children playing in the playroom. Only for a couple of minutes at a time but just to see what’s going on. My partners their but not interested at all in him!

alwaysraining123 · 10/09/2020 21:04

There

notacooldad · 11/09/2020 08:22

So clearly I’m a weirdo too. I login to ours and watch my children playing in the playroom. Only for a couple of minutes at a time but just to see what’s going on. My partners their but not interested at all in him!
Maybe just watching the video by its self isn't creepy. It would have been a good idea to mention it though. However put together with his other behaviour it takes on a darker tone.

Flynn2019 · 11/09/2020 08:43

I mean you are entitled to feel how you want about the situation and I would never disregard someone else's feelings. You know your husband better than anyone commenting on this thread however, I can say that if I had something like this and my husband was watching it periodically throughout the day, I wouldn't bat an eyelid. I see it as him being able to see his children and wife when he can't be there in person. And if I am honest I would do the same if it was me out of the house. I would have a conversation with him and ask him why he is doing it and you will be able to judge his intentions from there. Everyone on MN are very quick to jump to the assumption that this means something creepy but personally I don't see it like that at all.

notacooldad · 11/09/2020 08:48

Everyone on MN are very quick to jump to the assumption that this means something creepy but personally I don't see it like that at all.
Did you not read the updates and what else he does @flynn

seayork2020 · 11/09/2020 09:03

If i was a child I would not want to be watched i don't need to have cameras around the place i can't think of a reason too. So people go out there is CCTV come home there are cameras, kids pictures are all over social media and filmed for events, i am just over it really

Flynn2019 · 11/09/2020 09:12

@notacooldad

Yes I did read the updates. And like I said if the OP feels there is an alterier motive for why he is doing that then she needs to address this. It sounds like they don't have the basis for a good relationship but who are we to say that? Only the people experiencing that can make the call. I think the OP knowing what her husband is like knows the answer to the post she originally posted.

notacooldad · 11/09/2020 10:40

@flynn2019
I'm sorry,I tagged the wrong person! I meant to tag the person who said they were clearly a weirdo too because they liked to log in watch.
My mistake.

Irelate · 11/09/2020 10:50

Baby monitors are creepy full stop. Bin it.

wifesupremacist · 11/09/2020 10:57

the baby monitor is not the issue here

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