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To ask if you find Cardi B WAP offensive or liberating?

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Louise000000 · 06/09/2020 20:38

Just that really, I'm undecided. I think it depends on what mood I'm in.
On one hand she's only using language that male rappers have been using for decades and it is liberating that a woman can express herself in an obviously sexual way and why not?
On the other some of the lyrics are absolutely mad
'swipe your nose like a credit card'
'touch that little dangly thing that swings at the back on my throat' 😂

What do you think?

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Louise000000 · 06/09/2020 20:38

Also if you didn't know wap stands for wet ass pussy!!

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Wakemeupwhenthisisover · 06/09/2020 20:39

Neither, just crass and not what I think is good music. But art is subjective and we all enjoy different things. I just don’t listen to it if I don’t like it.

Doyoumind · 06/09/2020 20:40

There have already been a couple of threads on it. It's not liberating imho.

Skang · 06/09/2020 20:40

I don't find it offensive or liberating, personally.

Igotthemheavyboobs · 06/09/2020 20:40

They just sound pretty shit tbh, surely she could come up with something better than 'touch that little dangly thing that swings at the back of my throat'.

I'm not offended, I just think it's boring tbh

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Louise000000 · 06/09/2020 20:41

Oh are there sorry! This just occurred to me today in the car when it came on!

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Fizzingsherbert · 06/09/2020 20:41

It's gross. Not liberating in the slightest and I hate the thought of it being an anthem for teenage girls

Coriandersucks · 06/09/2020 20:41

Neither - I watched the video once and found it so dull I switched it off and not listened to nor heard it since. Just seemed like to was desperately trying to be controversial without really being that controversial.

TwelvetyOClock · 06/09/2020 20:41

Neither, really. It's just inane.

taranaki · 06/09/2020 20:41

The lyrics are absolutely disgusting but the video is somewhat mesmerising. Overall, i think the world was better without WAP.

Smellbellina · 06/09/2020 20:42

I think it’s probably liberating for her and women who like it.
I don’t find it liberating personally, it’s just not my type of thing.

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Louise000000 · 06/09/2020 20:42

I dont know I quite admire her for being so out there. Definitely more interesting than your run of the mill girl/boy band love/breakup song though no?

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lazylinguist · 06/09/2020 20:43

Offensive. Copying men's bad behaviour is not a great aim. I don't see how it's liberating at all, and I don't like the influence it can have on young girls.

tobee · 06/09/2020 20:45

I'm not sure that it is liberating. The idea seems to be here that the way to be liberated is to talk like the lowest common denominator of man? Does that pass for liberates? Why can't women be proud to be women and not ape men?

LockdownLump · 06/09/2020 20:45

I think it's horrible. I dislike rap as a genre as I feel it is (not all, but in the main), degrading to women.

I do not this this song is the female equivalent o men talking about hoe's sucking their cocks.

This video still plays to the male gaze and porn culture.

I think it a bit of an own goal tbh.

I can imagine a man wanking to this video and still objectifying women with talk of wet pussies.

Also the male voice almost constant in the background, talking about 'whores in the house', does not make me fell empowered at all.

tobee · 06/09/2020 20:46

@lazylinguist beat me to it and probably put it better

tobee · 06/09/2020 20:48

Really I think it's profoundly depressing that young girls might think "well, this is what feminism is"

CitizenFame · 06/09/2020 20:48

I don’t understand why it’s this particular song that is seen as so outrageous when female rappers like Lil Kim, Foxy Brown and Trina have songs containing more offensive and dirtier lyrics than that and were doing it back in the 90s and 00s.

Polkasquare · 06/09/2020 20:49

Copying men is not liberating.

Chouxalacreme · 06/09/2020 20:50

Catchy hook though it’s now my ear worm .
Not impressed with the vocabulary in it though I’d be worried if my kids were listening to it , I turn it off if it comes on .
Seems we are well down the road is normalising such blatant in your face sexualism which is a shame really

tearinyourhand · 06/09/2020 20:51

I saw a great quote the other day along the lines of how if your idea of liberating is something that men will wank to, you have to question how liberating it can actually be. Which pretty much sums it up for me. I'm not offended by sex or by lyrics that might shock people but it's so porny and awful and doesn't sound liberating in any way. It's just utter crap.

SimonJT · 06/09/2020 20:52

The biffy clyro cover is very good, quite funny too

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Louise000000 · 06/09/2020 20:53

You are right there @CitizenFame I remember as a teen 'my neck my back lick my pussy and my crack' was always on in my regular club.
I'm a rap fan anyway. Can't help liking Cardi though 😁
Would I let me kids listen, hell no, but then that would be my answer for any rap music tbh

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IAmFleshIAmBone · 06/09/2020 20:54

Women will never be liberated by acting like men do. So no, not liberating, in fact totally the opposite. In the same way that porn and prostitution are not liberating,they are oppressive.

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Louise000000 · 06/09/2020 20:54

Men might be wanking to it, but she's the one that's laughing all the way to the bank.

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