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Parents leant me money - now won’t talk to me

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greymauve · 02/09/2020 18:04

NC for this.

Truly expect to get flamed for some of this but I’m just quite upset and have nowhere to turn but here.

I had to ask my parents for money yesterday. £150, with the intent of paying it back on Saturday. I very, very rarely have asked my parents for money. I’m 26 and moved out at 18. Have lived independently and always supported myself. Have also worked since the age of 14 (starting as a waitress on the weekends).

I have been struggling financially for the past few months since having a baby. He’s 21 weeks old and I went back to WFH six weeks postpartum. I had saved up at the start of my pregnancy to pay the rent for four months while on maternity leave because was only able to get £140 a week. Due to getting ill during my pregnancy, I had to start using it from 28 weeks.

I didn’t have savings because I was in a financially abusive relationship before meeting my DP and lost them all.

I’m self-employed but have regular clients, but invoicing can take some time. I haven’t been paid since July. I have a long-term illness that prevents me from working outside of the house and am high risk.

I am currently looking after my baby in the day and then working from 4pm to around 12am-1am every day. I am due £6,000 next month. I’ve literally been working as much as possible.

I am also suffering badly with PND. Am in therapy, CBT and under the perinatal team as well as being on medication.

Anyway, I had to borrow the money because my cat became unwell and I had to get emergency treatment. I have pet insurance so can claim it back.

I didn’t have enough in my account and called my mum. I was nervous to do this because as I said I do not like borrowing money.

She said okay as long as I pay it back on Saturday so I said that was fine. She then said I ‘really need to sort myself out’ and when I said that I was working as much as I could to do so she said ‘You’re not even trying’. It really hurt because I am the main earner and I am trying my absolute hardest to make as much money as possible.

Today she called me and went mental. She told me that she hadn’t asked my dad whether it was okay to lend the money and that now he won’t talk to her and it’s my fault. That she knew my mental health was bad which is why she felt she had to lend the money but she feels she shouldn’t have and that I blackmailed her. When I explained that I hadn’t mentioned my mental health when asking, so I don’t feel I blackmailed her, she said well ‘you’re always going on about your mental health’ and ‘My friend was there when you called and asked for the money and she was absolutely disgusted by it’. She then went on to say asking to borrow money is not putting my DS first and I’m not even trying to do anything about my financial situation. I said I am working every night and she said well that doesn’t help right this moment, does it? She then went on to say she was sick of me talking about my mental health and that I blamed everything on my mental health. When I asked her what exactly, she just said ‘your whole life’.

She then said she’s done talking to me and hung up.

I do talk to her about my mental health but only when she can see I’m feeling low and asks. She told me if I do need to talk to anyone about it only talk to her because if I tell my health visitor/perinatal team when it gets bad they might take DS off me.

She also said she now can’t pay her £5,000 tax bill because of me.

I then got texts afterwards asking what would happen about her seeing DS now, as if she doesn’t want anything to do with me?

Fair enough I shouldn’t have asked for the money. I was due payment yesterday but it never came. I have chased and added a late fee. But I can pay her back on Saturday as I stated when asking to borrow.

She now won’t speak to me and I feel like I’m failing even more. I have apologised but it hasn’t changed anything.

I know, I’m pitying myself right now and probably haven’t made a lot of sense. I’m writing this while taking it all in so heads a bit all over the place. Sorry

OP posts:
BlowingmyJets · 02/09/2020 22:28

Op, what you have detailed is bad enough but when you said she mentioned your son when she's not speaking too you, that was the red flag for me.
I've heard that before.
Agree with pp, do not make big announcements, keep calm. Have a plan.

You absolutely need to start chasing those invoices. As pp said make sure the legal wording is on them re payment.

Then, when you can either in a lump sum or, in installments, pay her back.

Peacefully withdraw.
Don't be available. Respond but with little information and slower and slower.. Peeter out contact.

She's toxic and mean.
Even if I fell out or didn't like my dds, unless they had a baby and were drug addicts I'd like to think I would chuck them some money, in covid... When they had a baby.

My dh is low ish earner and I am under the tax threshold.
However I gave some £ to a relative I know is struggling every month over covid. Not much.. But something to keep them going.

They didn't ask me and have no dc.

You must be very brave however to have got through her.. And to be in a nice relationship now.

BlowingmyJets · 02/09/2020 22:29

Re health visitor, do be carful, my hv told me to take baby every week to toxic and abusive Mil.

Wanttolearnmore · 02/09/2020 22:55

Hi so you're due to be paid £6k next month so you've essentially got a cashflow problem for now - could you discuss a temporary overdraft extension with your bank based on what you're owed, as you can prove what you've invoiced. And then you can pay your Mum back and get her off your back and just leave her to her own devices for a while.
As other posters have said , try improving your credit control by chasing quicker or changing your payment terms to immediate or otherwise quicker etc, not sure what is standard in your industry.
Your mum doesn't know what she is talking about saying your baby will be taken away if you ask for help with PND . I had PND and got support from the health visitor and an outreach worker at the childrens centre (who was particularly invaluable) and could have gone on anti depressants from the GP. There was never any mention of baby going anywhere or social services input. I don't know what your Mum's game is telling you that but I would try and pay her back and stay away from her for a while. She sounds awful . You are working really hard at all this and doing really well - please don't let her make you feel bad. Hope cat feels better.

Sailingblue · 02/09/2020 22:57

Your mum sounds vile and the best thing you could do would be to disengage. I’d also say that no daughter of mine would be going back to work at 6 weeks post partum with PND if I could help to avoid that. Asking for £150 did not deserve the reaction you received.

tenlittlecygnets · 02/09/2020 23:16

Your mum is insane and I wouldn't let her see my dc again.

Yeahnahmum · 02/09/2020 23:24

^^this

Heffalooomia · 02/09/2020 23:26

OP is mia?

madcow88 · 02/09/2020 23:31

Your mother sounds just like mine. Emotionally unstable and emotionally unavailable... it's hard work and it will have an impact on your mental health. No one actually believes me what my mother is like until they witness it like your friend did.

Please don't feel guilty. See this as her issue that she is trying to push onto you.

If you ever need to talk please inbox me. I won't judge you and it is nice to hear I'm not alone.

boon · 02/09/2020 23:51

Wow! Just wow! I cannot believe your mum has treated you like this over borrowing £150, which you were going to pay back, when you were in desperate need of it. Its really wrong. My mum would not even want the money back. She should want to help you. You are her daughter.

ktp100 · 03/09/2020 00:10

I'm sorry but your Mum sounds unhinged.

I genuinely think going NC might help with your MH issues. This kind of toxicity just isn't worth it.

She's made her bed, let her lie in it. And as for seeing your child when she doesn't want to see you, it would be a resounding no from me!

Stay strong, OP. You're doing all the right things. I really hope things turn around for you soon.x.

Crosswithlifeatm · 03/09/2020 00:14

Keep your mum at a distance for now as she's not helping your mental health.
Do talk to your GP/ Health visitor, that's what they're there for and there will be no thought of seperating you and your baby.
They will listen and point you in the right direction for any further help you need, don't suffer in silence.

Crosswithlifeatm · 03/09/2020 00:15

Forgot to say congratulations on your baby and massive respect for you working again at 6 weeks.

HermioneMakepeace · 03/09/2020 00:21

Poor you OP! You did not deserve that treatment. Especially when you were doing something kind for a living creature (your cat). If it makes you feel any better, we have had to borrow money from PIL a couple of times (a lot more than 150 quid). And both times they treated us like shit for months afterwards.

You are doing your best. Actually it sounds like you are doing a great job of being a parent and working. It's not easy.

Enough4me · 03/09/2020 00:33

OP listen to these posts, it is clear to everyone that your mum and dad do not prioritise or value you and you need to disengage. In my experience it was my dad who I had to accept was only dad in name. He pretended to help me, but by telling me I was constantly wrong.

It is better to focus on the people who build you up, or let you develop naturally, rather than go along with a false hope of having a parent and put up with degradation.

You can get through this and be a great parent regardless of how useless they have been to you.

greymauve · 03/09/2020 00:38

Hi, I’m back. I’m so sorry - I started working at 4pm and I have just finished. Thank you all so much for your lovely comments and support, I really appreciate it. I’m just going to make a drink and then I’ll be back.

OP posts:
monkeymonkey2010 · 03/09/2020 00:41

I very, very rarely have asked my parents for money. I’m 26 and moved out at 18. Have lived independently and always supported myself. Have also worked since the age of 14 (starting as a waitress on the weekends)

OP, you have my empathy.
I sense the same kind of 'death by a thousand cuts' energy going on in your relationship with your mum that i had with mine.
Like you, i started part time work around 15 yrs old, determined to be independent in every way possible.
My family is full of narcissists and this is exactly the kind of shit they'd pull.

I'm 40 now, but when i was around 32 yrs old for the first time i borrowed money from my mum.
The response and reaction was pretty much similar to your mums.
It's like they wait, ready to pounce the very moment you reveal your vulnerability and then milk the situation for every ounce of narc supply they can get.

katy1213 · 03/09/2020 00:44

Well, I'll go out on a limb and say I sympathise with your mother. You should have sorted this out with your husband/partner. And if you can't afford a cat, get rid of it. You knew when you asked for this money that you couldn't pay it back. And from your mother's response, it seems that 'mental health' has been the excuse for a lot.

greymauve · 03/09/2020 00:45

@katy1213 I said I could pay it back on Saturday, which I can, I explicitly said that? I’ve also had the cat for 7 years, this is the only issue that has ever arisen. And my mental health has never been an excuse for anything.

OP posts:
Shockingstocking · 03/09/2020 00:46

katy1213

You sound as charming as the mother.

She said she'd pay the money back on a certain date which hasn't yet arrived. Did you clock that?

I'm not sure how working every hour available is using mental health to make excuses.

Shockingstocking · 03/09/2020 00:47

Ignore her, OP.

NameChangeAgain222 · 03/09/2020 00:58
Flowers

Your mother sounds unhinged. If she doesn't want to see you she doesn't get to see your child.

Please don't worry about talking to your GP. Your mother has an extremely old fashioned view of mental health issues. They definitely wouldn't take the baby off you for PND. I had bad PND and they were nothing but supportive. They gave me medicine and CBT. A friend of mine had extremely severe PND and they sectioned her with the baby in a special unit. (Not that you would be sectioned of course! I just mean that even in the most severe of cases they try and keep mum and baby together.)

Ignore the cat comments, a lot can change in 7 years! God forbid one of these people go through a rough patch Hmm. I hope it's feeling better.

Plumplumbadum · 03/09/2020 00:59

katy1213
You're a pretty horrible individual aren't you?

NotMyFinestMoment · 03/09/2020 02:18

Your mum sounds horrible and as if she has mental health/personality issues. For what it's worth you sound like you have been as responsible as you can and done your very best given your difficult circumstances. I wouldn't beat yourself up about it, just pay her back as soon as you can. Personally I would cut her off as she sounds awful and in no way supportive.

Baileyscheesecake · 03/09/2020 02:47

If you were my daughter I would have given you the money as a gift. Your mother sounds unhinged and unsupportive. You sound like you’re trying your hardest in a very difficult situation. Don’t beat yourself up about this. Give yourself credit for what you’ve achieved and if your mother won’t talk to you enjoy the silence. It doesn’t sound as though you’ll be missing out on much. Flowers

LadyMinerva · 03/09/2020 03:01

Well @Katy1213 I too can go out on a limb and say you must be the mother.

@greymauve you are doing an amazing job as a mother, partner and human being in general.

Your mother is toxic and does not deserve to be part of yours or your DS's life. It will be hard but you should consider going at least low contact for a while and reassessing from there.