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Parents leant me money - now won’t talk to me

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greymauve · 02/09/2020 18:04

NC for this.

Truly expect to get flamed for some of this but I’m just quite upset and have nowhere to turn but here.

I had to ask my parents for money yesterday. £150, with the intent of paying it back on Saturday. I very, very rarely have asked my parents for money. I’m 26 and moved out at 18. Have lived independently and always supported myself. Have also worked since the age of 14 (starting as a waitress on the weekends).

I have been struggling financially for the past few months since having a baby. He’s 21 weeks old and I went back to WFH six weeks postpartum. I had saved up at the start of my pregnancy to pay the rent for four months while on maternity leave because was only able to get £140 a week. Due to getting ill during my pregnancy, I had to start using it from 28 weeks.

I didn’t have savings because I was in a financially abusive relationship before meeting my DP and lost them all.

I’m self-employed but have regular clients, but invoicing can take some time. I haven’t been paid since July. I have a long-term illness that prevents me from working outside of the house and am high risk.

I am currently looking after my baby in the day and then working from 4pm to around 12am-1am every day. I am due £6,000 next month. I’ve literally been working as much as possible.

I am also suffering badly with PND. Am in therapy, CBT and under the perinatal team as well as being on medication.

Anyway, I had to borrow the money because my cat became unwell and I had to get emergency treatment. I have pet insurance so can claim it back.

I didn’t have enough in my account and called my mum. I was nervous to do this because as I said I do not like borrowing money.

She said okay as long as I pay it back on Saturday so I said that was fine. She then said I ‘really need to sort myself out’ and when I said that I was working as much as I could to do so she said ‘You’re not even trying’. It really hurt because I am the main earner and I am trying my absolute hardest to make as much money as possible.

Today she called me and went mental. She told me that she hadn’t asked my dad whether it was okay to lend the money and that now he won’t talk to her and it’s my fault. That she knew my mental health was bad which is why she felt she had to lend the money but she feels she shouldn’t have and that I blackmailed her. When I explained that I hadn’t mentioned my mental health when asking, so I don’t feel I blackmailed her, she said well ‘you’re always going on about your mental health’ and ‘My friend was there when you called and asked for the money and she was absolutely disgusted by it’. She then went on to say asking to borrow money is not putting my DS first and I’m not even trying to do anything about my financial situation. I said I am working every night and she said well that doesn’t help right this moment, does it? She then went on to say she was sick of me talking about my mental health and that I blamed everything on my mental health. When I asked her what exactly, she just said ‘your whole life’.

She then said she’s done talking to me and hung up.

I do talk to her about my mental health but only when she can see I’m feeling low and asks. She told me if I do need to talk to anyone about it only talk to her because if I tell my health visitor/perinatal team when it gets bad they might take DS off me.

She also said she now can’t pay her £5,000 tax bill because of me.

I then got texts afterwards asking what would happen about her seeing DS now, as if she doesn’t want anything to do with me?

Fair enough I shouldn’t have asked for the money. I was due payment yesterday but it never came. I have chased and added a late fee. But I can pay her back on Saturday as I stated when asking to borrow.

She now won’t speak to me and I feel like I’m failing even more. I have apologised but it hasn’t changed anything.

I know, I’m pitying myself right now and probably haven’t made a lot of sense. I’m writing this while taking it all in so heads a bit all over the place. Sorry

OP posts:
eaglejulesk · 02/09/2020 21:13

Your parents sound absolutely horrible! Once you have paid them back I would be keeping a distance from them as it is obvious they don't know what the meaning of the word supportive is. If she doesn't want to see you (which sounds as though it could only be a good thing) tell her she doesn't see your DS either. Ditch them, and you may find your MH improves. Sorry you've had to go through this - as the child of parents who have always been happy to help me financially if required I feel very sorry for you. Flowers

CharismaticVic · 02/09/2020 21:13

The way people, parents, grandparents, aunties, uncles respond to mental health is so odd and sad. I think it's a generational thing. I once had an argument with my sister and mum about something to do with a close loved one and rather than listen to me about it my mum told me I was probably suffering from PND (I'd had a baby about 8 weeks earlier). Despite that novice diagnosis she didnt push me to see a Dr she just used it to try and explain a very normal behaviour for someone who feels not heard.

CharismaticVic · 02/09/2020 21:14

*from not for, sorry

Touchmybum · 02/09/2020 21:22

Your mother is so out of order here. I cannot credit how she could insinuate that you could have your baby taken into care if you accept healthcare assistance with your MH issues. I'm sorry, but that is so so cruel, untrue and unfair!!

Is there anywhere else you can get the £150 from? and tell her to shove it where the sun don't shine?

I have two daughters (and a son) and I would go without myself to make sure they had all they need. You will do the same for your little one. If she was any kind of mother, knowing the situation you are in right now, she would GIVE you the money, not lend it to you!

My parents subbed me until they died when I was 43. They knew we weren't flush with 3 children in childcare, mortgage to pay and 2 cars to run. They never asked for anything back. They paid for us to go on holiday to France - entirely their own idea! That's what decent parents do for their children.

My younger daughter is on an unpaid internship atm. Rent alone is costing us £500 a month, quite apart from maintenance, social life, trips home. It's a big outlay for us but that's what parents sign up for! £150 is sod all, and you've a new baby! I would love to give you a big hug! And I hope your partner is supportive of you too. Lots of love xx

Candyflosscookie · 02/09/2020 21:22

Please read @Dilbertian post about what HCP will do.
I had bad PND. I got nothing but support and encouragement and reassurance that I was doing fine.

Your mother is vile, toxic, abusive. It's very easy to see why you had a previous abusive relationship if your family dynamics have been fucked up since the start. They've set a pattern of making you feel beholden, probably wrong/worthless.

I would be avoiding contact as much as possible and does she FUCK get to see your DC if she's being that horrible to you!

Touchmybum · 02/09/2020 21:23

PS meant to say, hope your wee cat is feeling better, and ignore anyone who says you should give him/her up!! Pets are for life, you have pet insurance, and they are part of the family xx

Lifeisabeach09 · 02/09/2020 21:26

Your mum is not very nice. I'd help out my struggling (single?) parent daughter in a heartbeat.

SophieB100 · 02/09/2020 21:26

One of my DD's is your age OP, I can't imagine ever treating her like your mum has treated you.
You sound lovely.
Your mother doesn't.
Get help for yourself, and go low contact with her - you deserve better.
Sadly, we don't always get the family we deserve, but you have your own little family now, so cherish them.
And again, get help - no one will take your little one from you. Flowers

lovelypumpkin · 02/09/2020 21:32

what will happen if I tell my GP/perinatal team I am struggling? can you find out what kind of help would be available first and then put it along the lines of "I have had PND and I think I would benefit from.." I think if you are going in with a wide open "I am struggling" then they would have to think the worst. Think about what you mean by struggling too, it sounds to me as though you are doing amazingly well and you are coping and that you are organised and together. Having a baby is so stressful when they are very young and helpless, the feelings of pure panic and overwhelm about being responsible for a small person go as you get more confident and your baby gets more sturdy and they start talking.

I agree with pp that your mother is probably the root cause of your MH difficulties and over time counselling will help. I wouldn't go NC as it will cause drama but give yourself time to think about what affect she'd have on your toddler and how best to manage it with her and do what you think is best in your own time.

When I was in my twenties it was quite normal for people to borrow money sometimes from family members and pay it back. Your mother was very wrong in how she framed it to you.

Pixxie7 · 02/09/2020 21:32

If one of my daughters needed a £150 and I had it, it would be a no brainier to me. Your mums reaction is not normal.

Neolara · 02/09/2020 21:37

Your mum is being completely ridiculous. You have absolutely no reason to apologise to her. She should be embarrassed by the way she has behaved towards you.

Chin up. There will be a way through this. I too recommend speaking to the HV and GP as they may be able to offer practical and emotional support.

PhilSwagielka · 02/09/2020 21:41

Wow, your mum is an arsehole and the complete opposite of mine. Like you, I hate asking for money but I know if I was having difficulties, especially MH related, she'd help me. If your mum couldn't afford to, why did she even bother lending the money in the first place?

PhilSwagielka · 02/09/2020 21:43

@CharismaticVic

The way people, parents, grandparents, aunties, uncles respond to mental health is so odd and sad. I think it's a generational thing. I once had an argument with my sister and mum about something to do with a close loved one and rather than listen to me about it my mum told me I was probably suffering from PND (I'd had a baby about 8 weeks earlier). Despite that novice diagnosis she didnt push me to see a Dr she just used it to try and explain a very normal behaviour for someone who feels not heard.
My mum is mentally ill herself and one of the few good things about that is that she understands and doesn't act like I'm just faking it or tell me to pull myself together. She had severe depression after Dad died. We went on holiday to Menorca a few months after and she spent most of it in bed, that's how bad it was. She knows what it's like.
Nillynally · 02/09/2020 21:45

She wouldn't be getting her £150 back Saturday or any day if it was me!

Palavah · 02/09/2020 21:46

If you haven't already done so, put late payment terms on your contracts, and on your invoices, and enforce them. Google for examples.

Pikachubaby · 02/09/2020 21:47

What an awful woman she is, just awful, I could never treat my kids like this, what an absolute uncaring unloving I kind “mother” Sad

Hope you can pay her back and then cutting her out if your life once and for all

Stay strong, you have done so amazingly well to hold it together in these circumstances

Brew
picklemewalnuts · 02/09/2020 21:54

You sound pretty well set up, in terms of 9lans for how to get everything sorted out. Well done, it's impressive, with your LO so young.

Quick thought, could your dad be abusive? Last time someone went off the handle at me like this, her husband had knocked her about.

Marriageoftrueminds · 02/09/2020 21:54

You poor love. Your mum has been vile. Is she always like this? Please leave her to it, don't pandar to her. She is controlling you with fear by saying SS will take away your baby - they simply won't. I had PND and my HV would come round and I would be crying, not eating, not showered, house would be in an appalling state, and I truthfully answered yes when she asked if I had considered harming myself- in fact I had left the house in the middle of the night at one point as I couldn't cope. They were totally unfazed, this is normal with PND. Please ask for support, it will make so much difference x

Hawkmoth · 02/09/2020 21:58

OP, I'm going to ignore your mum because that's all she deserves.

However, you need to start chasing your outstanding invoices. I'm self employed and my clients are pretty good. If one of them is a month late I just remind them with the next invoice and then they pay both out of embarrassment. However, I know I would find it difficult to chase otherwise as it's not earning me money as such!

I was also crap at invoicing so I got a bookkeeper and pay her about £20 a month to run mine from a spreadsheet. I think you should consider getting someone in to send nice email/ stern email/ nasty email and start training your clients to pay. I do this for one of my clients and have emails ready to copy so it takes only a few minutes!

nanbread · 02/09/2020 21:59

What sort of parent offers to lend their child money to help them out of a sticky situation, lends it, then goes nuts over it and practically disowns their child? Very strange. I'm sorry OP.

Not that it makes it better but I do wonder as a pp suggests if your mum has had some kind of abuse from your dad over this, my mum used to take out our dad's abuse on us.

ButiLoveHim32 · 02/09/2020 22:04

I would pay her back in 5ps, but I'm petty like that!

zaffa · 02/09/2020 22:06

OP your mother has behaved in a most unreasonable way! Whether she could or couldn't afford to lend you the money is no excuse for speaking to her child the way she did. If this is frequent then you need to seriously consider the extent you let her affect your mental health.
For future some vets will do a direct claim on the pet insurance.
I'd pay her off and tell her that her toxic attitude isn't welcome around you and your family for a bit whilst you consider your options

canyoucallbacklater · 02/09/2020 22:18

I know she's your mum, OP, and I'm sorry - but what a bitch!

You sound amazing! You've achieved so much in such a short space of time and you're such a role model to your son - he will be so proud of you and you should be proud of yourself.

Your Mum genuinely sounds like she has a screw loose. Is she like this often? If she is, I would really take a step back and perhaps consider if some of your Mental Stress comes from her mood swings. It's incredible how much your mood picks up when you limit such negativity.

Keep swimming and things will get easier. You will look back on this in a few years, wonder how the hell you got through and laugh at how much of an idiot your Mum was.

In regard to her seeing your son? Tell her she can do one. Why on earth would she expect to see him but not you? Madness!

combatbarbie · 02/09/2020 22:21

@ButiLoveHim32 love it but I would do 1ps

OP your mum sounds unhinged. She clearly has preconceptions of you in regards to money, but why on earth did you believe her when she said someone would take DS if you told them about your MH! I get there is probably some misplaced loyalty but she is using your MH to berate you.

First things first, go and see your GP ref your MH and get support. Then deal with your relationship with your parents.... In the meantime I would be no contact.... You may find that once the fog from your MH has lifted that you may actually have toxic parents in which case continue the no contact.

Noidea2114 · 02/09/2020 22:26

This is the first time I want to cry re a thread on MN.
Please contact your HV/GP they will NOT take your baby away, they will do everything to help you.
When you pay your mother back please step away from her, SHE is making your MH worse.
Has she always been toxic because that is what she is.
Do you want your baby to have a relationship with someone so nasty.