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Parents leant me money - now won’t talk to me

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greymauve · 02/09/2020 18:04

NC for this.

Truly expect to get flamed for some of this but I’m just quite upset and have nowhere to turn but here.

I had to ask my parents for money yesterday. £150, with the intent of paying it back on Saturday. I very, very rarely have asked my parents for money. I’m 26 and moved out at 18. Have lived independently and always supported myself. Have also worked since the age of 14 (starting as a waitress on the weekends).

I have been struggling financially for the past few months since having a baby. He’s 21 weeks old and I went back to WFH six weeks postpartum. I had saved up at the start of my pregnancy to pay the rent for four months while on maternity leave because was only able to get £140 a week. Due to getting ill during my pregnancy, I had to start using it from 28 weeks.

I didn’t have savings because I was in a financially abusive relationship before meeting my DP and lost them all.

I’m self-employed but have regular clients, but invoicing can take some time. I haven’t been paid since July. I have a long-term illness that prevents me from working outside of the house and am high risk.

I am currently looking after my baby in the day and then working from 4pm to around 12am-1am every day. I am due £6,000 next month. I’ve literally been working as much as possible.

I am also suffering badly with PND. Am in therapy, CBT and under the perinatal team as well as being on medication.

Anyway, I had to borrow the money because my cat became unwell and I had to get emergency treatment. I have pet insurance so can claim it back.

I didn’t have enough in my account and called my mum. I was nervous to do this because as I said I do not like borrowing money.

She said okay as long as I pay it back on Saturday so I said that was fine. She then said I ‘really need to sort myself out’ and when I said that I was working as much as I could to do so she said ‘You’re not even trying’. It really hurt because I am the main earner and I am trying my absolute hardest to make as much money as possible.

Today she called me and went mental. She told me that she hadn’t asked my dad whether it was okay to lend the money and that now he won’t talk to her and it’s my fault. That she knew my mental health was bad which is why she felt she had to lend the money but she feels she shouldn’t have and that I blackmailed her. When I explained that I hadn’t mentioned my mental health when asking, so I don’t feel I blackmailed her, she said well ‘you’re always going on about your mental health’ and ‘My friend was there when you called and asked for the money and she was absolutely disgusted by it’. She then went on to say asking to borrow money is not putting my DS first and I’m not even trying to do anything about my financial situation. I said I am working every night and she said well that doesn’t help right this moment, does it? She then went on to say she was sick of me talking about my mental health and that I blamed everything on my mental health. When I asked her what exactly, she just said ‘your whole life’.

She then said she’s done talking to me and hung up.

I do talk to her about my mental health but only when she can see I’m feeling low and asks. She told me if I do need to talk to anyone about it only talk to her because if I tell my health visitor/perinatal team when it gets bad they might take DS off me.

She also said she now can’t pay her £5,000 tax bill because of me.

I then got texts afterwards asking what would happen about her seeing DS now, as if she doesn’t want anything to do with me?

Fair enough I shouldn’t have asked for the money. I was due payment yesterday but it never came. I have chased and added a late fee. But I can pay her back on Saturday as I stated when asking to borrow.

She now won’t speak to me and I feel like I’m failing even more. I have apologised but it hasn’t changed anything.

I know, I’m pitying myself right now and probably haven’t made a lot of sense. I’m writing this while taking it all in so heads a bit all over the place. Sorry

OP posts:
greymauve · 02/09/2020 18:25

@BilboBercow He is working 9-4 every day but is on minimum wage. Our outgoings are quite high and (when I actually get paid) I earn a lot more than him. He’s asked for more hours though last week, and is waiting on his rota to change. He is working until 4pm at the moment so that I can start work as soon as he comes home and he has DS. All of our money goes into one bank account, he doesn’t spend anything on himself. Hopefully when they increase his hours (I think he’ll be starting earlier and doing an extra shift) it’ll be a bit of a weight off me. He’s doing overtime all this week though to get some extra money.

OP posts:
ConkerGame · 02/09/2020 18:25

I’m so sorry OP. You should always be able to go to your parents for help, especially when you’ve just had a baby! The sad truth is, she’s not a nice person and I think you have to accept that you can’t rely on her. Please don’t ask her for anything again and please don’t let her spend time alone with your baby.

Also, well done on all your hard work, with a small baby and PND too! I think you sound amazingly resilient and very impressive. All the best for the future, OP Flowers

Love51 · 02/09/2020 18:27

Your mum was being abusive. Sorry.
There is no way people lose care of their children for mentioning their MH to the health visitor. When I was pregnant and had fairly mild ante natal depression, I got the best MH support I had ever had. Honestly you would have to persistently refuse to engage with services and put your child at risk before they get removed! Putting your logical head on, supporting you to improve your MH is fairly cheap (to society) and putting kids in care is expensive and doesn't have good outcomes. Seek the support you need - but not from your mum. £150 is such a small amount to support a new mum.
Parenthood can bring up emotions about your own experiences of being parented which you had previously buried. You might need help processing those.

MayDayFightsBack · 02/09/2020 18:27

@7yo7yo

She sounds like a contributor to your poor mental health. Pay her and cut her of and tell her you and your child come as a package so if she doesn’t see you, she doesn’t see the baby. Then take back control and say actually I don’t want to see you again.

And I’m sorry to sound harsh and will get flamed but if you can’t afford pets then you shouldn’t have them and I KNOW you have insurance etc etc but you couldn’t pay the vets bill.
Flowers op. It’s difficult going back to work so early and wfh with a young baby.
Your doing good. Don’t let her pull you down.

What a batshit thing to say. The OP clearly had the pets before she became self-employed and her financial circumstances changed. What is she supposed to do - get rid of much-loved pets in case she had financial problems in the future? She has insurance as well as income due - she can afford her pets, she just has a temporary cash flow problem.

Writing something like that to someone who has already been treated so harshly and is struggling with their mental health is just awful.

greymauve · 02/09/2020 18:27

Also if anyone has any advice - what will happen if I tell my GP/perinatal team I am struggling? I have been telling them things are ok because I don’t want them to take DS away. If they find out I’ve been lying will they take him? I called Samaritans at 11pm last night and it was a man who picked up and he said he couldn’t help because he doesn’t know about PND.

OP posts:
Flapjak · 02/09/2020 18:28

If i had money and my children needed it, i would give it to them and not expect to be paid back unless it was a regular situation. Your mum sounds awful and i wonder if having parents like this has contributed to your poor mental health. Dont feel bad, you have behaved normally, its your mother that is acting bizarrely.

FatCatThinCat · 02/09/2020 18:31

Nothing bad will happen if you talk to your GP about how you're coping. They will just try to help you get any support available to you. This may involve social services, who will also help you to get the right support. They aren't there to take your baby away, they're there to support you to be the best mum you can. Engaging with them is seen a positive and less of a concern than saying nothing.

bonjonbovi · 02/09/2020 18:31

What benefits is your mother bringing to your life? It sounds like she is making things harder?

Heffalooomia · 02/09/2020 18:31

your mum is a crazy toddler lady:(
I'm so sorry, probably best to distance yourself long term.

MinnieJackson · 02/09/2020 18:33

Her friend needs to butt out. If she agreed to lend you the money knowing she had a bill due that's her fault. You're not late in paying her back so that is a non issue. Don't justify yourself, you're disabled, working all hours you can and engaging with mental health teams! You are a credit to your son and he will NOT be removed from you Flowers

Lemming20 · 02/09/2020 18:34

You are an absolute inspiration to your child and your mother is deranged x

FatCatThinCat · 02/09/2020 18:34

My DD is the same age as you. When she was little I was a single mum and wasn't coping and was exhausted. I told my health visitor, who told social services, who came and did and assessment and as a result paid for DD to go to a nursery for 3 mornings a week so I could have a break and rest. They're not the monsters some people think they are.

Heffalooomia · 02/09/2020 18:34

She now won’t speak to me
this is a GOOD thing
the less you engage with her the better, 'drop the rope' (as they say) and use this period of peace to strengthen yourself so that you can shut her out when she comes back looking for more drama

MinnieJackson · 02/09/2020 18:35

Also are you getting all of the benefits i.e pip you're entitled too? I don't think there's a cap or anything on that even if you work and it would guarantee you a monthly income, even on lowest rate

user1481840227 · 02/09/2020 18:35

Your mum is vile and nasty.
Her reaction was not normal.
She won't ever admit that but she is 100% in the wrong.

gobbynorthernbird · 02/09/2020 18:36

They're not going to take your DS away. They will help, whether that's medication or signposting practical support.

Gazelda · 02/09/2020 18:36

I promise you that your GP and HV will listen to you tell them how you're truly feeling, and will support you to get stronger. They will not take DS away from you. That was a terrible lie your mum told you. She has contributed to your poor mental health.
Please, please speak with GP or HV. You deserve to feel healthy and happy.

SmellsLikeFeet · 02/09/2020 18:41

You poor thing
Does she always try to punish you for things that aren't your fault?
Walk away for a bit
Speak to your Dr about how you feel and tell him what your mum said.

CaveMum · 02/09/2020 18:41

Didn’t want to read and run.

@greymauve try calling PANDAs rather than the Samaritans tonight. They are specialists in maternal mental health and will be able to give you the right support and advice. This is their website with all their contact details, they are also on Facebook and Twitter.

pandasfoundation.org.uk/

DirtyTicket · 02/09/2020 18:42

I had severe PND. My HV was wonderful and actually attended my GP appointment with me. I was prescribed Sertraline and after taking it for around 2-3 weeks I felt 'normal' again.

Your GP and HV are there to help you, they won't be looking to remove your baby.

Best wishes.

MJMG2015 · 02/09/2020 18:44

(((((((HUG))))))))

You've done nothing wrong.

(Including having a pet for 7 years. Quite some time before leaving an abusive partner, changing jobs & having a baby! And you have insurance!)

Your mother is dreadful, sorry, but she is.

Jesus, I've bailed my God daughter out of bigger financial squeezes Than £125 and nit batted an eyelid. Happy to help if I can.

You've just had a baby, are already back at work, working/looking after DS all hours- you should be incredibly proud of yourself!!

The things she says are not only hurtful & nasty, but they're also incorrect!!!

If lending you £125, stops her paying a £5000 tax bill (which is crap anyway) it indicates SHE needs to sort HER life out!

I cannot express just how awful I think she is to you, I really can't.

I'm sorry your MH is so bad, but I'd put good money on knowing where it's come from & what led you to being in an abusive relationship.

Personally I think you'd be FAR better off going NC with the toxic cow. & NO WAY would she be dripping poison into my child's ears. NO FUCKING WAY

I'm worried about your current relationship - I'm worried you've picked someone else who is not good for your MH as you may not have yet learnt how not to do that. Is there anyone in your life you trust to be straight about that?

I just want to rescue you from your own mother & that's sad. X

ekidmxcl · 02/09/2020 18:44

Your mum sounds like a nasty lying bitch.

The £5k tax bill - utter bullshit that a loan for a few days of £150 compromised the payment of it.

Normal parents help their kids out. You don’t have normal parents. It’s better that she doesn’t want to speak to you. Pay the 150 into her bank account ASAP and don’t bother speaking to her.

MJMG2015 · 02/09/2020 18:45

Oh & just to back up what others have said...

Your mother is talking absolute shit!! Getting help from your GP will NOT have SS taking away DS , it truly wont!

queenofknives · 02/09/2020 18:45

Pay your mum back on Saturday. Add a couple of quid interest. And tell her to go and fuck herself.

If she wants to fix things, let her come to you and apologise and work out how to make amends to you. If she wants contact with your kids, tell her you expect her to get treated for her anger issues first.

I'm sorry she's putting you through this, OP. You've done nothing wrong.

FizzAfterSix · 02/09/2020 18:46

OP you sound like a lovely caring person, spending money on your poor cat. Your mother sounds cruel and abusive. I hope your cat is ok and sending you 💐

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