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Parents leant me money - now won’t talk to me

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greymauve · 02/09/2020 18:04

NC for this.

Truly expect to get flamed for some of this but I’m just quite upset and have nowhere to turn but here.

I had to ask my parents for money yesterday. £150, with the intent of paying it back on Saturday. I very, very rarely have asked my parents for money. I’m 26 and moved out at 18. Have lived independently and always supported myself. Have also worked since the age of 14 (starting as a waitress on the weekends).

I have been struggling financially for the past few months since having a baby. He’s 21 weeks old and I went back to WFH six weeks postpartum. I had saved up at the start of my pregnancy to pay the rent for four months while on maternity leave because was only able to get £140 a week. Due to getting ill during my pregnancy, I had to start using it from 28 weeks.

I didn’t have savings because I was in a financially abusive relationship before meeting my DP and lost them all.

I’m self-employed but have regular clients, but invoicing can take some time. I haven’t been paid since July. I have a long-term illness that prevents me from working outside of the house and am high risk.

I am currently looking after my baby in the day and then working from 4pm to around 12am-1am every day. I am due £6,000 next month. I’ve literally been working as much as possible.

I am also suffering badly with PND. Am in therapy, CBT and under the perinatal team as well as being on medication.

Anyway, I had to borrow the money because my cat became unwell and I had to get emergency treatment. I have pet insurance so can claim it back.

I didn’t have enough in my account and called my mum. I was nervous to do this because as I said I do not like borrowing money.

She said okay as long as I pay it back on Saturday so I said that was fine. She then said I ‘really need to sort myself out’ and when I said that I was working as much as I could to do so she said ‘You’re not even trying’. It really hurt because I am the main earner and I am trying my absolute hardest to make as much money as possible.

Today she called me and went mental. She told me that she hadn’t asked my dad whether it was okay to lend the money and that now he won’t talk to her and it’s my fault. That she knew my mental health was bad which is why she felt she had to lend the money but she feels she shouldn’t have and that I blackmailed her. When I explained that I hadn’t mentioned my mental health when asking, so I don’t feel I blackmailed her, she said well ‘you’re always going on about your mental health’ and ‘My friend was there when you called and asked for the money and she was absolutely disgusted by it’. She then went on to say asking to borrow money is not putting my DS first and I’m not even trying to do anything about my financial situation. I said I am working every night and she said well that doesn’t help right this moment, does it? She then went on to say she was sick of me talking about my mental health and that I blamed everything on my mental health. When I asked her what exactly, she just said ‘your whole life’.

She then said she’s done talking to me and hung up.

I do talk to her about my mental health but only when she can see I’m feeling low and asks. She told me if I do need to talk to anyone about it only talk to her because if I tell my health visitor/perinatal team when it gets bad they might take DS off me.

She also said she now can’t pay her £5,000 tax bill because of me.

I then got texts afterwards asking what would happen about her seeing DS now, as if she doesn’t want anything to do with me?

Fair enough I shouldn’t have asked for the money. I was due payment yesterday but it never came. I have chased and added a late fee. But I can pay her back on Saturday as I stated when asking to borrow.

She now won’t speak to me and I feel like I’m failing even more. I have apologised but it hasn’t changed anything.

I know, I’m pitying myself right now and probably haven’t made a lot of sense. I’m writing this while taking it all in so heads a bit all over the place. Sorry

OP posts:
Wheneverwhereve · 02/09/2020 20:01

My heart broke reading your post... your mum is vile and what she said was just plain nasty. Please go to GP for help. I was also worried when I suffered with PND and PNA but it was a weight off my shoulders when I got help and honestly the HV did not bat an eyelid because having mental health illnesses does not mean your child is at risk... At the end of the day so many parents suffer from this and talking to the GP is the first step to acknowledging you need a little help. Please concentrate on you and your family and distance yourself from your mum.

AryaStarkWolf · 02/09/2020 20:03

Of course yanbu, I couldn't imagine being so cruel to my child (adult or not)

SchadenfreudePersonified · 02/09/2020 20:05

@BiscoffAnythingIsTheWayForward

Personally I’d extend my overdraft temporarily, pay her back and then cut them off. You’ve just had a baby for goodness sakes. If you can’t turn to your parents for help, then who can you turn to? It’s not like you borrowed thousands. It’s literally been a day! How utterly ridiculous! I honestly can not believe her reaction!

I hope your cat is ok x

This. ^^^

Your mother is totally unreasonable.

If your father really isn't talking to her because of this, then so is he.

You do not need anyone like her in your, or more importantly your baby's life.

Step away from the drama. You'll be better for it.

SirGawain · 02/09/2020 20:07

She also said she now can’t pay her £5,000 tax bill because of me.
Self Assessment Income Tax bills for 2019/20 dont have to be paid until the end of January.

comfyslipers · 02/09/2020 20:07

OMG OP you need to pay your mum back and step away from your parents entirely. If you have grown up in a toxic environment no wonder you have mental health issues. Look after yourself and your own wee family and cut them off completely. They don't deserve you and they don't deserve contact with your son. Best of luck to you but watch you don't overload yourself - everything is not your fault you know.

remembersmellovision · 02/09/2020 20:09

OP just came on to say, separate from all the things happening with your mum, please do seek help for your PND. You will not be separated from your baby, unless like another poster said there is a massive back story we are unaware of. To give you an idea of how it works, I told my HV who talked to me, asked me lots of questions and asked me to make a GP appointment. She also called me to check I was ok a week or so later. My GP was fabulous, referred me for counselling, but also saw me every fortnight to see if I was ok or needed medication. Im not sure if it's still the case but then you were seen as high priority if your baby was under one year old. In some areas group therapy was also available. Do seek help, people are not our there to separate parents from babies but are genuinely there to help you feel better. There were lots of annoying questionnaires and a bit of waiting along the way but thanks to my lovely GP and counsellor I found myself gradually just feeling better again. It's a tough road but it does get better.

wigglebox · 02/09/2020 20:12

Im so sorry that your parents are being so horrible to you. Thats not what parents should be. I certainly wouldnt include them in your support system. I know thats easy for me to say but as life goes on, new friendships develop and people come and go, you can form a different support group and as hard as this may sound I would leave your parents go. They need to know that they're attitude to you is so damaging. Please protect yourselve from this and mind your mental health. In time I hope they realise how important you and your family are to them,maybe your absence can make their hearts grow fonder, distance yourself, u have done nothing wrong in asking your parents for help, am sorry they treated you like they did

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 02/09/2020 20:14

She then said I ‘really need to sort myself out’ and when I said that I was working as much as I could to do so she said ‘You’re not even trying’.
If you work from 4 p.m. until midnight or
1 a.m. every weekday, you are doing a full time job. Does she not realise how long you work for?

Today she called me and went mental. She told me that she hadn’t asked my dad whether it was okay to lend the money and that now he won’t talk to her
That is her problem. She knows what their financial situation is. You asked for help in an emergency. She could have said no.

That she knew my mental health was bad which is why she felt she had to lend the money but she feels she shouldn’t have and that I blackmailed her.
You didn't blackmail her. If she has trouble being assertive that is for her to sort out. She doesn't seem to care about going mental at you and the effect that will have on your mental health.

My friend was there when you called and asked for the money and she was absolutely disgusted by it.
None of her friend's business.

She then went on to say she was sick of me talking about my mental health and that I blamed everything on my mental health. When I asked her what exactly, she just said ‘your whole life’.
Ok, she told you not to talk to others about it and only to speak to her but just ignore that. Contact your GP and/or Health Visitor and ask for help with your MH issues. Nobody is going to take your baby off you. Health services are there to help.

She also said she now can’t pay her £5,000 tax bill because of me.
She only lent you £150 for a week. If that would make her short for her tax bill then she should have said she can't afford to loan the money.

I then got texts afterwards asking what would happen about her seeing DS now, as if she doesn’t want anything to do with me?
Well, you and your child are a package so she can't expect to see him and not you. Personally, in view of what she has said, I would not answer any texts from her unless they were full of genuine and profuse apologies. I might even block her number so that, should she wish to contact you she has to come to see you or write.

I would not re-establish the relationship if she doesn't sincerely apologise and accept that her behaviour was totally inappropriate.

sarralim · 02/09/2020 20:15

Your mother is the one who is not well, OP. Her way of treating you and speaking to you might well be part of the reason for your mental health problems. Please, listen: your mother's behaviour is not normal. You need to work on limiting your contact with her, although I appreciate it's easier said than done. Your OP reads full of apologies, like you've internalised her critical and aggressive voice.

You haven't done anything wrong. Family - and parents especially - help each other, help their children. Even when kids grow up, that's what parents do. Hats off to you, OP - you've just had a small baby, you're suffering with mental health problems and you seem to work incredibly hard. I'm also a freelancer, so know how difficult things are with cash flow and invoicing, never being able to plan.

If I were your mother, I would be so proud of you and would be honoured to be able to loan you money. You have done nothing wrong.

You need a big pat on the back, no, you need a big hug.

Your mother is abusive. Please, again, do try to look at your relationship together with a skilled therapist when things settle down.

Hugs and look after yourself Flowers

gamerchick · 02/09/2020 20:21

@greymauve

Also if anyone has any advice - what will happen if I tell my GP/perinatal team I am struggling? I have been telling them things are ok because I don’t want them to take DS away. If they find out I’ve been lying will they take him? I called Samaritans at 11pm last night and it was a man who picked up and he said he couldn’t help because he doesn’t know about PND.
What makes you think they'll take your baby because you're struggling? They really won't but they can't help unless they know.
honkytonkheroe · 02/09/2020 20:30

She sounds horrible and is completely in the wrong. I’ve got a 26 year old daughter. I would lend money without question. I would give money without question. You sound like you’re doing brilliantly to me. I was brought up to help your kids out as much as you can. I’m sorry you haven’t got a better mum.

87thstreetache · 02/09/2020 20:36

Sorry your mum is so unsupportive. Must have been horrible.
YOU SOUND AMAZING. Look what you’re achieving on your own. You’ll get through this shitty time and out the other side.

gumball37 · 02/09/2020 20:37

You don't be roasted by me. Sometimes even adults need help and she could have said no. Her friend's opinion shouldn't even factor into this. Your mother is a cunt. Pay her back and go low contact. Because your mental health DOES matter

TheWernethWife · 02/09/2020 20:38

Give her the money back on Saturday and tell her to stick it up her bloody backside. Nasty vile bitch.

MushMonster · 02/09/2020 20:39

Your mother is being completely unreasonable, unsupportive, and sounds bonkers!
You are doing really well OP. You just had a baby, have gone back to work after only six weeks, and you are working long hours.
It is normal to have delays with payments, especially in these times. And we can all get caught by an emergency. These things happen.
The doctor will help you if you are struggling, not take the baby away.
If your mother does usually talk to you like this and behaves in this way, you need to think about cutting her off your life, and your son's life.

Plussizejumpsuit · 02/09/2020 20:44

£150 for a few days is no big deal if you have the money. Also what tax bill is due now? I'm self employed and the dates don't seem to add up so feel she is being dramatic!

Castiel07 · 02/09/2020 20:50

I would give her the money back ASAP, and then tell her to fuck off.
I could never treat any of my children the way she has treated you.
Your worth more and like others have say your mum is probably contributing to your mental health.

tarasharp · 02/09/2020 20:54

I don’t understand how unsupportive and lacking in any empathy some parents can be. Life can be a struggle, I always help m6 grown up children out if need be. If I lend them money I’ll often let them off with it if I think they’re struggling, even though they insist on paying me back. Your mum sounds crazy, let her be the one to make amends, you’ve done nothing wrong Op.

ithinkiveseenthisfilmbefore · 02/09/2020 20:55

Your mother is vile. Your father is vile for treating her the way she's treating you. Silent treatment is abuse. They're both toxic as fuck.

Pay her back and go NC. Tell her she won't be saying her grandchild either. No loving grandparents treats their own child so horribly, and then in the next breath asks about seeing the baby.

Your MH may improve dramatically without them in your life.

TheHappyHerbivore · 02/09/2020 21:01

OP, your mum is absolutely horrible. You poor love. You absolutely didn’t deserve that. Almost everyone in the world needs a helping hand now and then, and most mothers wouldn’t think twice about helping if they could under these circumstances. Your mother was so cruel and unreasonable and vicious, there is simply no excuse whatsoever for her behaviour.

Mary46 · 02/09/2020 21:04

Hope you ok op. Her behaviour not nice at all. I know with a pet things can be unexpected money wise. Take care x

Cornishclio · 02/09/2020 21:08

Firstly I am not surprised your mental health is suffering as you are working and looking after a young baby and have financial problems. Your mum has made that worse so once you have repaid her I would suggest you take a breather from her as she sounds crazy. It is not your fault she did not tell your Dad and why would he kick up a stink when you do not often borrow from them? Also a loan of £150 would not make a difference to a £5k tax bill and most tax bills are due July and January and there are provisions put in place for this year due to Covid. What on earth does she expect you to do? On reflection it may have been better for you just to tell the vet they would have to wait until your money came through or use a credit card or overdraft if you have access to one. For the future try and save up an emergency fund for things like this.

No way will you have your baby taken away because of PND. GPs and social services are there to support you. Ask for help. There was an interesting programme yesterday about becoming a new mum and suffering with mental health presented by Sheridan Smith. There are organisations to support you.

BlueJava · 02/09/2020 21:09

I'm so sorry OP, that's an awful situation. I actually think your mum is totally unreasonable on this - to be honest if it was my DC I'd give them the cash and make sure they had enough until they were sorted by being paid.

incognitomum · 02/09/2020 21:11

Totally agree with previous posters. Your parents especially her, are a big contributing factor to your mental health.

Am so sorry and you would be better off without them.

I hope your health and money problems are better soon Flowers

Shockingstocking · 02/09/2020 21:12

Your mum is being awful. Don't listen to another word she says. Don't let this get to you. Just focus on your beautiful baby. Pay her back and let it go.