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Parents leant me money - now won’t talk to me

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greymauve · 02/09/2020 18:04

NC for this.

Truly expect to get flamed for some of this but I’m just quite upset and have nowhere to turn but here.

I had to ask my parents for money yesterday. £150, with the intent of paying it back on Saturday. I very, very rarely have asked my parents for money. I’m 26 and moved out at 18. Have lived independently and always supported myself. Have also worked since the age of 14 (starting as a waitress on the weekends).

I have been struggling financially for the past few months since having a baby. He’s 21 weeks old and I went back to WFH six weeks postpartum. I had saved up at the start of my pregnancy to pay the rent for four months while on maternity leave because was only able to get £140 a week. Due to getting ill during my pregnancy, I had to start using it from 28 weeks.

I didn’t have savings because I was in a financially abusive relationship before meeting my DP and lost them all.

I’m self-employed but have regular clients, but invoicing can take some time. I haven’t been paid since July. I have a long-term illness that prevents me from working outside of the house and am high risk.

I am currently looking after my baby in the day and then working from 4pm to around 12am-1am every day. I am due £6,000 next month. I’ve literally been working as much as possible.

I am also suffering badly with PND. Am in therapy, CBT and under the perinatal team as well as being on medication.

Anyway, I had to borrow the money because my cat became unwell and I had to get emergency treatment. I have pet insurance so can claim it back.

I didn’t have enough in my account and called my mum. I was nervous to do this because as I said I do not like borrowing money.

She said okay as long as I pay it back on Saturday so I said that was fine. She then said I ‘really need to sort myself out’ and when I said that I was working as much as I could to do so she said ‘You’re not even trying’. It really hurt because I am the main earner and I am trying my absolute hardest to make as much money as possible.

Today she called me and went mental. She told me that she hadn’t asked my dad whether it was okay to lend the money and that now he won’t talk to her and it’s my fault. That she knew my mental health was bad which is why she felt she had to lend the money but she feels she shouldn’t have and that I blackmailed her. When I explained that I hadn’t mentioned my mental health when asking, so I don’t feel I blackmailed her, she said well ‘you’re always going on about your mental health’ and ‘My friend was there when you called and asked for the money and she was absolutely disgusted by it’. She then went on to say asking to borrow money is not putting my DS first and I’m not even trying to do anything about my financial situation. I said I am working every night and she said well that doesn’t help right this moment, does it? She then went on to say she was sick of me talking about my mental health and that I blamed everything on my mental health. When I asked her what exactly, she just said ‘your whole life’.

She then said she’s done talking to me and hung up.

I do talk to her about my mental health but only when she can see I’m feeling low and asks. She told me if I do need to talk to anyone about it only talk to her because if I tell my health visitor/perinatal team when it gets bad they might take DS off me.

She also said she now can’t pay her £5,000 tax bill because of me.

I then got texts afterwards asking what would happen about her seeing DS now, as if she doesn’t want anything to do with me?

Fair enough I shouldn’t have asked for the money. I was due payment yesterday but it never came. I have chased and added a late fee. But I can pay her back on Saturday as I stated when asking to borrow.

She now won’t speak to me and I feel like I’m failing even more. I have apologised but it hasn’t changed anything.

I know, I’m pitying myself right now and probably haven’t made a lot of sense. I’m writing this while taking it all in so heads a bit all over the place. Sorry

OP posts:
sadie9 · 03/09/2020 12:23

I would query your Dad in this. Your Mum seems to be his puppet. He says things and puts pressure on her, then she jumps on the phone to make it your problem. She feels manipulated herself all her life because she has to get everyone's approval, so it's everyone else's fault.
Your mother has issues. Your Dad had issues. They were there before you were even born.
Does your Dad make comments to your Mum about how she operates in life and that makes her feel bad, so she goes and makes you feel bad.
Your mother is not being fair to you in her comments. She is not supportive of you because she's trying to please her husband and her friends.
There's a family dynamic there. I suspect your Mum can't relate to people that well. She likes the idea of grandchildren because they are nice to be around and they don't judge her.
You sound like you are doing great and being a great mother.
You only asked her for a few quid for the cat FFS! But then you get back this 'your whole life' bullshit. Don't listen to it. You are doing great and don't be afraid to access the right sort of support.

Timekeeper2 · 03/09/2020 12:25

It sounds like your mum has serious mental health issues. If you have any siblings, or if your father knows what she's like, can't you get her some help?

Couldn't you have arranged with the vet admin to pay on Saturday? Most vets I would have thought, would allow you to pay it off or pay on a certain date.

Howyiz · 03/09/2020 12:41

Because @TheWernethWife from the staggering similarities it seems it is, OP had recently had a baby, had had to go back off maternity early, was also due a large payment from invoices, invoices were being paid late, she also had really high outgoings.
That being the case it would be useful to know if she actioned any of the MANY suggestions on that thread.

SquidwardTortellini95 · 03/09/2020 12:46

Your mum sounds absolutely vile! You poor thing.

Losingthechubrub · 03/09/2020 13:07

If you're struggling with your mental health, please see your doctor. If you don't want to, someone like PANDAS may be able to help you, but please don't pin all your support needs on someone who throws it back in your face. You need someone to listen, not judgement.

pandasfoundation.org.uk/

Oliversmumsarmy · 03/09/2020 13:16

Is your mother on something?

Does she drink (even secretly) or take drugs.

The way your mother can be fine one minute and dreadful the next. Being nice then turning on people in seconds and doing something like the lending money situation I have seen before but in all those instances the person turned out to be or we knew to be an alcoholic or drug taker.

Personally I would pay the money back on Saturday and go Nc or very very LC.
I wouldn’t be surprised if your PND/MH didn’t improve in not having to deal with someone who is bringing you down.

Can I ask why you told the UC people how much you were going to invoice people

Dd and Ds are SE and even though they have done work and invoiced people. They don’t declare their earnings untill the money is in the bank otherwise you could be in a situation where you invoice someone and don’t get paid by then but your UC money is deducted but then they pay a few months later and you declare it again as income and your money gets deducted again.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 03/09/2020 14:13

Olivers - thats interesting. My mum is alcoholic and has mh issues. She suddenly turned on me 2 months ago and Ive had really bile messages about my past, about me, my life choices, my children.

Now she's texting as if nothing happened but I cant ignore the hurtful messages this time.

Do you reckon thats the " real them" coming out or its just twisted in their head at the time?

Im really striggling with it.

Oliversmumsarmy · 03/09/2020 15:46

We have seen this so many times.

Someone we loosely knew was a really ok guy.
Then we met him when we went in a pub for a meal. He was quite happy, said Hi, long time no see, had a short catch up. Then he went off to the loo.
When he came back he was just nasty.
Screaming at everyone. He got thrown out.

Later we found out he had a drug problem.

Seen it with other people over the years who have alcohol or drug problems.

I think it is a sign that something isn’t right with the person.

DownstairsMixUp · 03/09/2020 16:02

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PineappleUpsideDownCake · 03/09/2020 16:04

Somethings sadly very not right with my mum. Ive tried to support her over the years, saved her from death many times when she's collapsed but realised my life became too emeshed and dependent on hers.

I just wondered what she really thought of me. Ie if when she's "well" she does really think all the vile things she's previous said but hidden it.

Maybe she just is several very different people and the nice one likes me more or less and the mean one hates me!

Craftycorvid · 03/09/2020 16:25

If you were my daughter you wouldn’t be paying me back at all in your circumstances - I’d be giving you what you needed. Her response is hugely out of proportion and it’s very clear something else is going on here. Pay her back. Go low/no contact if you can. The line about seeing your DC but not you is just breathtaking. Flowers

DownstairsMixUp · 03/09/2020 16:29

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cooliebrown · 03/09/2020 16:49

very worrying bit is that she has told you not to talk to professionals about your mental health because you could lose your baby. This is the worst possible advice you could have been given.

Gobbycop · 03/09/2020 16:56

All over £150, fuck me.

She sounds like a right drama llama, that's a massive over reaction.
Something else is clearly bothering her.

Ishihtzuknot · 03/09/2020 17:11

Her behaviour and attitude is disgusting! I have a mum like her and it’s so stressful so I understand. Good parents support their children whatever their age or situation and certainly don’t speak to them like crap and patronise them!
I really hope your cat is ok now and that you have support from your dp and his family. If I were you I’d cut contact now, she has no right talking to you like this or seeing your dc at all. You won’t lose your child, you will get all the support you need whether therapy or anti depressants. She’s toxic and once she’s out of your life you will lose the weight from your shoulders. Flowers

SquidwardTortellini95 · 03/09/2020 17:31

@katy1213, OP explicitly stated that she will pay her mum back on Saturday. Where did you get that she can't pay her back? OP has ALSO stated that she has had the cat for several years and this financial difficulty is recent. You may be okay with getting rid of a beloved pet on a whim, but most people aren't.

You sound almost as unkind as OP's mother.

Mittens030869 · 03/09/2020 17:41

I'm sure that posters like @katy1213 post what they do to get a rise out of the rest of us. There's always at least one poster like that on every AIBU thread. Hmm

greymauve · 03/09/2020 18:13

Hi everyone, I’m doing okay today thank you. Had quite a good day as I made £810 in commissions! So, I’m going to take the night off from working and spend some quality time with DP and DS. Of course, will have to wait for invoices... but it’s been a win!

OP posts:
NoPinkPlease · 03/09/2020 18:22

Good grief, if you were my daughter, and you were doing all that to make your life work, I'd be so proud of you. It's not you!

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 03/09/2020 18:30

Wow £810 today!? What do you do. Can I do it!? (Probably not!!)

jgjgjgjgjg · 03/09/2020 18:34

Your problem is that, as you said, your outgoings are high. You can't afford high outgoings. Whatever they are, you have to cut them down.

MitziK · 03/09/2020 19:19

@TheWernethWife

Are you the same poster that posted a couple of weeks ago with a very similar dilemma?

Why do some posters ask this, surely there is more than one person with toxic parents on MN

And works as a freelance journalist, has a partner working part time, a young baby, gave up work at exactly the same time...

Definitely a completely different person.

Happynow001 · 07/09/2020 13:30

Hello @greymauve

How did it go with your parents at the weekend? All done and dusted, I hope?🌹

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