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AIBU to think it’s poor form to bail on a child’s party at the last minute?

196 replies

Pl242 · 30/08/2020 09:26

I’m really intrigued as to people’s views on this. It has happened several times to me when I’ve arranged a party for my children. I’ll get a message on the morning to say that little Timmy won’t be able to come after all. And not for an understandable reason such as the family having come down with a D&V bug overnight but just that they now have other plans/something has come up/they’ve realised they are double booked etc.

I find this really hard to understand and it makes me cross, particularly on behalf of my child who will be disappointed. But also for myself who has just wrapped up a pass the parcel for the right number of guests, bought food, paid a deposit for final numbers etc!

I know it annoys me as I wouldn’t do it to someone else but if you think it’s not unreasonable to do this, then why? I assume people who do this wouldn’t care if anyone cancelled on them last minute? Do people who do this just not like to be constrained by plans and just want to be constantly spontaneous etc? Genuinely curious.

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Thisismytimetoshine · 30/08/2020 14:34

@WeAllHaveWings

If it was a full class type party for a child who is not a best friend, if there wasn't a date for rsvp, I would not rsvp until the weekend before so I had a better idea if we had something better to do other plans.

This would avoid having to cancel. A last minute on the day cancellation without good reason is poor manners, they could have at least gone to the effort to make one up!

Hedging your bets until the last moment to see if anything more interesting presents itself is bloody rude too... How can you not see that?
LarryUnderwood · 30/08/2020 14:37

I agree it's rude. A mum once texted me on the morning of my son's party to say her kid wasn't coming because he'd changed his mind and didn't want to come. But she understood that I might want to lie to my son about the reason. I was more offended by that than the late notice to be honest, and told her so. We are no longer in touch 🤣

StormyInTheNorth · 30/08/2020 14:38

I've done 2 and there'll be no more. The food, the stress, the expense. Have had my share of all of the above. The things that stand out are.

Didn't reply to the invitation but turned up with the dad, step dad, mum and 4 siblings. They all had something from the buffet.

The mum text me on the day with a valid excuse, but she already knew she wasn't going 2 days earlier because she'd given the gift to a friend to give at the party. Why not just text me on the Friday instead of leaving it until 3 hours before the party. We wouldn't have expected a gift, never do. But I was feet away from her on the friday and saw them passing the gift. I must be quite unpopular to talk to!

Minimumstandard · 30/08/2020 14:41

I had a load of people not turn up to a birthday party as a child - turns out it was the day after they returned from a residential school trip I hadn't gone on and they were tired etc. It was horrible and the worst birthday I can remember (DM had hired a DJ in the church hall but it was almost empty).

This is why it's unacceptable to just not turn up. Poor little child.

Hmm, I had to cancel last minute on a party a couple of weeks ago. I had written the date down wrong - for the Saturday instead of the Sunday - and only realised two days before by which time I'd already bought timed/dated theme park tickets for the Sunday which clashed with the party.

You need to schedule better. If I'd been the mum, I would have been a bit Hmm. At least you gave her some notice and didn't just not show so that's something... Tbh, this sort of thing is what gets invitations declined in our house. We always RSVP and never miss parties we've said yes to, but we don't feel guilty in turning down invites for people who mess us around or fail to show. We assume we're quite low down their priority list so don't feel we need to make them a priority.

Corono · 30/08/2020 14:43

YANBU!

PotatoHead2020 · 30/08/2020 14:55

@Minimumstandard

I had a load of people not turn up to a birthday party as a child - turns out it was the day after they returned from a residential school trip I hadn't gone on and they were tired etc. It was horrible and the worst birthday I can remember (DM had hired a DJ in the church hall but it was almost empty).

This is why it's unacceptable to just not turn up. Poor little child.

Hmm, I had to cancel last minute on a party a couple of weeks ago. I had written the date down wrong - for the Saturday instead of the Sunday - and only realised two days before by which time I'd already bought timed/dated theme park tickets for the Sunday which clashed with the party.

You need to schedule better. If I'd been the mum, I would have been a bit Hmm. At least you gave her some notice and didn't just not show so that's something... Tbh, this sort of thing is what gets invitations declined in our house. We always RSVP and never miss parties we've said yes to, but we don't feel guilty in turning down invites for people who mess us around or fail to show. We assume we're quite low down their priority list so don't feel we need to make them a priority.

I mean I don't disagree but it was a genuine mistake, never happened before. The party simply ended up on the wrong day in my diary, I would actually have preferred to do the theme park on the Saturday but didn't book it because I thought the party was on Saturday. My error but hardly a hanging offence!
WaltzfortheMars · 30/08/2020 14:59

I think the kind of people who does this, and kind of people who never do this never see eye to eye. Just different kind of people. Don't like them, don't want to be like them.

WombatChocolate · 30/08/2020 15:11

Of course there are genuine reasons why people need to cancel last minute such as illness. However, many people cancel going to children's parties at the drop of a hat. I think that because it's not an adult event, they value it less. It is inconsiderate and rude to cancel last minute without a very good reason ( or worse still to just not turn up) because essentially it shows a lack of consideration for the host child and parents.

People hosting parties have put time and effort and money into organising a party.

Last minute, non-essential cancellations show people just don't care about the time, effort and money spent by others. Despite having said they will attend, they view that as no barrier to their own personal convenience at the last minute.

Yes, people live busy lives and sometimes spending part of your day taking a child to a party or hanging about at one isn't someone's preferred way to spend the day or inconveniences the rest of the family....so declime the invitation. The problem lies in people not being willing to plan ahead or essentially being unwilling to out themselves out to any degree to stick to a commitment/acceptance they have made.

People cancel because they are tired on the day, a better offer comes up, they forgot to get a present, they didn't think ahead to what would happen to the other children, their DH isn't keen on the idea becaue he didn't know about it before the day or day before, they don't like the thought of soft play, hanging out with other mums etc etc. These are all selfish reasons really and show someone totally putting their own convenience ahead of the fact they agreed to go to something. It is totally different to having to cancel because someone is genuinely ill.

Lots of people are flakey these days. They don't consider that accepting an invitation or the fact the other person will then have made plans and might have gone to expense any reason to be held to their acceptance. They feel they only have responsibility to themselves and their own whims at the individual moment. Adults are like this towards other adults and let people down at the drop of a hat, and view acceptances of anything involving kids as meaningless. It's sad, but it's true of many people. And if kids grow up seeing that as normal, of course they won't respect accepting invitations either.

I've had to cancel last minute, if I've had a migraine or a child suddenly threw up. Those things have happened but not very often. I take the view that once you've said 'yes' you push yourself to attend even if it causes some inconvenience. So I've said 'no' to better offers which came later, or I've had a day with lots of driving to and fro last the same place and done 20 more miles than if the party didn't exist, because the other stuff of the day had to fit in with the party. I've been bored in soft play or missed out on what could have been a great day to go out with the family as the weather turned out to be brilliant...because I'd space ores an invitation and that acceptance meant something to me.

Fortunately, huge class parties involving lots of kids are pretty short lived and never compulsory. You hope that the serial 'let -downers' are not your friends and if they are, you either have a word or they probably drift out of your friendship group anyway. It's a shame when the kid is a good friend of your child but their parent can't get their act together or is just pretty selfish and doesn't consider your child or your efforts when they do another last minute let down at the drop of the hat. Of course, genuine things do happen and we al accept that....it's when they are extremely frequent that people start to feel a bit undervalued.

honeylulu · 30/08/2020 15:14

Yes very rude. We've nearly always had some no-shows including "didn't feel like it", "went to grandma's instead", "just forgot". Luckily usually balanced by the uninvited siblings dumped on us.

Grateful both mine had birthdays in peak lockdown this year.

CarrotCakeCrumbs · 30/08/2020 15:16

@Thisismytimetoshine she doesn't always cancel, however when her anxiety is very bad she doesn't feel able to attend, she can't predict when that will happen. Mental health is an illness; do you think that someone with EDS should decline all invitations in case they have a flare up on the day? Hmm and yes I am aware that I 'need to get my bloody act together' I have memory problems (related to a disability I have) and so I do struggle with remembering appointments, dates and times. I don't think it is an excuse, I do apologise when it happens, unfortunately as much as I would like to I can't get rid of my disability and so far haven't found a fool proof way of dealing with the memory aspect. But thank you for pointing out my lack of manners.

greengreengrass14 · 30/08/2020 15:18

there may be something you don't know about. i.e child contact or even that their child has behaved really badly at home and is grounded.

Not everything will the parent want to share outside the family.

Not necessarily rude, but could be. Just human I would say.

CarrotCakeCrumbs · 30/08/2020 15:23

@rayoflightboy as I said to another poster, I have memory problems related to a disability I have. It isn't that I am being careless, I will always apologise when I do double book things and I certainly don't do it on purpose. I haven't found a good way of getting around it as of yet. I have an invisible disability, I don't like to talk about it, particularly not with a school parent who might share that with others.

Thisismytimetoshine · 30/08/2020 15:23

Why would someone who struggles with remembering dates not simply write it down, I wonder?

CarrotCakeCrumbs · 30/08/2020 15:26

@Thisismytimetoshine well you may have just solved my memory problems that the medical professionals who gave access to my medical files me can't fix aren't you amazing. Hmm.

MannymanMunroe · 30/08/2020 15:26

YANBU and everything WombatChocolate said.

In addition, these selfish parents don't seem to realise that their actions have a negative effect on their own children. Obvs they don't give a shit about the birthday child's feelings; but they also don't seem to understand that the invitations for their own children may start to dry up too, because, no matter how strong the friendship, people on a tight budget aren't going to want to spend money on, or see their own child upset over, a persistent no show. Well, the ones who aren't total mugs won't, anyway. I'd hate to think my child was being excluded from friendships and nice memories because I couldn't be arsed to get myself organised.

rayoflightboy · 30/08/2020 15:27

@CarrotCakeCrumbs you only mentioned memory problems after i wrote my post.

Anyway most people know who the flakey ones are.And if you are not flakeythen its a genuine mistake fine.

But its those ones that have form for it.In that case i wouldnt invite them if it happened more than once.

Thisismytimetoshine · 30/08/2020 15:31

[quote CarrotCakeCrumbs]@Thisismytimetoshine well you may have just solved my memory problems that the medical professionals who gave access to my medical files me can't fix aren't you amazing. Hmm.[/quote]
Excuse me? How do you organise anything in your life, if you can't remember anything and you don't write it down? Do you ever forget when start of term is? Or the Christmas holidays?

CarrotCakeCrumbs · 30/08/2020 15:32

@rayoflightboy I know, my point was though that you never truly know what is going on in someones life and so it really may not be that someone was being thoughtless. I agree that if it is happening ALL the time then it might be best to not invite them in future, but you can't always judge.

Minimumstandard · 30/08/2020 15:33

@CarrotCakeCrumbs. It's largely down to communication, I think. One of my friends has health issues and is balancing 3 DC under five. So we always tell her not to stress and just come on the day if she feels able. But that's for parties at home...I probably wouldn't invite her DC to parties costing £££ until they're old enough that we could collect the child themselves and return them home. It might be trickier if you're not such close friends, but surely it's sensible to at least tell the host parent there's a chance you might not be able to make it.

CarrotCakeCrumbs · 30/08/2020 15:41

@Thisismytimetoshine it isn't a constant memory loss, some days are worse than others. I do have difficulty remembering important dates, things like medical appointments tend to be messaged to both myself and my partner, school term dates are always online luckily so I can double check those if needed. Quite often things are forgotten before I have been able to write them down, I can lose whole hours of my day which includes entire conversations. I generally makes plans via text or email for this reason, but that isn-/ always possible.

latticechaos · 30/08/2020 15:42

I think yabu. It is rude not to tell someone you can't go, but as you really have no relationship beyond your children, the parents owe you nothing in the way of explanation.

But I just lie when cancelling to appease hyacinth bucket the parent. I have for example cancelled due to a crisis with a family member that I would never tell a random parent about.

IMO people with straightforward lives can be very judgmental of people with more on their plate. And you never really know what people are dealing with.

On the other hand, some people just cancel. That's the way they are.

nevermorelenore · 30/08/2020 15:44

One of my DC has a birthday close to bank holiday weekend and I've just given up on it to be honest. Loads of last minute flaking out because the weather has been good, so people have decided to go away for the weekend, or grandparents are suddenly coming to visit. We have their party a week later now once schools are back.

latticechaos · 30/08/2020 15:44

Oh, should have added, this is why I never did paid per person things in primary, just a bunfight. Then it doesn't matter.

A lot of the pressure is created by parents doing too much for parties, then expecting everyone else to care.

Minimumstandard · 30/08/2020 16:04

expecting everyone else to care

I don't think parents expect other parents to care about their children's parties... Just not to disappoint the birthday child by flaking out at the last minute. If people don't care enough to do that, then they won't care about their own children being crossed off the invite list for next time or their own child's party being a very low priority.

FudgeBrownie2019 · 30/08/2020 16:11

YANBU at all - it's so rude to just not turn up.

However, we had to cancel on a friend's party a few weeks ago because of a Covid test we needed to wait for and she was incredibly upset and as much as i'd have loved to go, I just didn't dare risk it. Sometimes people really do have genuine reasons.