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AIBU / Selfish to not want to date a single Mum?

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jimmyjammy001 · 30/08/2020 00:16

I am a Male just turned 30, single for couple years, never married, no kids, own house, good job, having drinks with friends tonight and dating subject came up, none of which are dating people who allready have kids, I said not really anyone suitable on online dating as they have children and that is not what I want from a long term relationship, a couple of them (females) said that I am selfish for not dating women who allready have children.

I have done in the past, but it never worked out for me, I allways found it alot of hassle/problematic/dramas. I have met some genuinely nice women but unfortunately it comes down to the kids getting in the way for it not working out, if they were childless then I could see a future.

Some examples are:

Nights in with them and their children causing havoc, not what I or I think any bloke would want on a date night.

I would have to plan my lifestyle around their childcare arrangements, I do shift work and can have Mon, Tues and weds off but they might only have Thurs eve free for a few hours so I would rearrange shifts and then just as the date is going well they will look at their watch and be like it's half 8 I have to go back and relieve the babysitter and put the kids to bed. I like the dates where we can just sit back have drinks til like 11/12 after food then go back to one of our houses.

Holidays have allways been a no go, can only go during summer holidays and pay 4 times the price to somewhere like butlins, never can have weekends away just 2 of us, or last minute date nights, everything has to be planned weeks in advance so childcare can be arranged and sometimes their kids will go sick on the night which means date cancelled.

I want someone who can come out late with me and my friends and not have to dash off early each week and can do couple things as well. If I stay out then it causes arguments.

Staying over theres and usually have their kids jumping up and down on the bed in the morning, not fun!

Weekends if the kids are with them, we have to goto pepper pig World for the day or some animal adventure park and then go to hungry horse and eat rubbish food as it is a child friendly place and listen to kids running around screaming their heads off. Or watch them play football for a few hours, or dance practice. Non of which I can stand.

I suppose as a male with no children I have alot more time on my hands to go and do things on my days off, go on holidays outside of term time, nights and weekends away, camping, playing sports, non of which women with children that I have been with can do, it just allways feels like I am a part time boyfriend as only get to see them once or maybe twice a week, otherwise they are just to busy. I understand their kids need to allways come first and I will allways be second, would just much rather be with someone where we are both each others no 1 and can start a family from scratch not a ready made one.

Looking at longer term one or two I have been with rely heavily on benefits, I don't think I could live with someone else and their kids it would probably drive me insane and also being step dad, but also they're benefits would get recalculated if we were to move in together taking my salary into account which means they would not receive any benefit money and I would have to subsidize / give them over £1000 a month out of my take-home pay, which I really can't see as fair?

Then there is the dramas of the ex, as there is a reason they are not together, so you have to offer sympathy all of the time and agree with them when they talk negatively about the ex, birthdays and Xmas is allways very complicated, where kids should be having to pick them up from different places.

What is quite annoying/hilarious is that some womens dating profiles who have children genuinely can't understand what problems their kids bring to a relationship and will say my kids are my world and if your not man enough to handle them swipe left or it's your problem if you don't like my kids, they will get very defensive and hostile as soon as I mention that I am not interested due to the kids if they have not mentioned they have any previously.

In my opinion the cons far outweigh the pros, Surely I can't be unreasonable for not wanting any of this hassle? My own happiness should be paramount in a relationship, not just get into one to make someone else happy.

OP posts:
PointyMcguire · 30/08/2020 12:37

Not unreasonable at all. I’m married now, but when I was dating I’d never have dated someone with kids. I’m sure there are lots of lovely single dads out there, but personally I have always wanted to bring up a family with someone who is also experiencing it all for the first time.

RunningHoops · 30/08/2020 12:39

Females! Grin

Erm, you do know this is Mumsnet, yes? It's a strange place to ask.

CheesecakeAddict · 30/08/2020 12:43

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LaMarschallin · 30/08/2020 12:47

Infullbloom

Man posts goady thread at midnight on a Saturday slating mothers on a parenting forum then disappears and you're all responding like this might be genuine???

I agree with a former poster who said while it may or may not be genuine, it's promoted an interesting discussion.

I think that's why people are responding now.

It's doubtful it's only you that's had reservations about the OP, especially this far into the thread.

PhilSwagielka · 30/08/2020 12:50

I wouldn't date someone with children either, OP, I have no interest in becoming a stepmother.

kitschplease · 30/08/2020 12:51

Totally reasonable, but a bit weird to post here - unless you were trying hard to be controversial?

imissthesouth · 30/08/2020 12:52

I mean i think you're BU by limiting your option, but i wouldn't want to be a stepparent either tbh, from friends experiences it rarely works out. YANBU

ImaWomAnnotaWomEn · 30/08/2020 12:54

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AIBU / Selfish to not want to date a single Mum?
PhilSwagielka · 30/08/2020 12:58

I'm always surprised when men come on here, tbh.

MawnyStannit · 30/08/2020 12:59

You sound like a real oddball, so for that reason, please recuse yourself from the dating pool, thank you. What the fuck’s a Hungry Horse?

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 30/08/2020 12:59

Back when I was single and childfree, I would not date anyone with kids. People are allowed to have whatever boundaries they like; there is nothing selfish about it.

I also wouldn't have dated a Tory, a drug user, a person with no job, a person who lived at home, all sorts of boundaries.

OlympicProcrastinator · 30/08/2020 13:10

Everyone is entitled not to date anyone for whatever reason they want. I found it really strange that people called me selfish for refusing to date someone with kids when I was dating a man who had none but he was dating me when I had 2.

I wasn’t forcing him to date me. He had different standards. So he was happy to date me with two kids but I wouldn’t have done the same, so what? We are happily married now anyway.

It’s like when one partner forgives a cheating partner but then the one that takes them back cheats and the other one then won’t forgive them. People always say, ‘that’s not fair, they forgave you!’

Just because one person is a mug and a doormat it doesn’t mean the other one has to be in return.

People should never have to explain their dating preferences. Nobody owes anyone a relationship or sex.

DangerMouse17 · 30/08/2020 13:14

@damnthatanxiety not angry at all Hmm
I take umbrage with a guy who thinks its acceptable to come onto a parenting site dominated by women and inform all single mothers how unattractive they are as prospects. Thanks for the support "sis".

BacklashStarts · 30/08/2020 13:25

And still no@jimmyjammy001 - what a surprise...Hmm

vodkaredbullgirl · 30/08/2020 13:33

Probably nursing a hangover.

DianaT1969 · 30/08/2020 13:49

I think we can stop posting. This goady critic of single mums isn't coming back. He's probably a 45 year old man in reality. Currently residing with his mum because he just got kicked out by a younger single mother who has a life and was fed up supporting a self-centred cock-lodging man child.

Port1aCastis · 30/08/2020 14:02

Diana I think you are correct and win the thread with your common sense

rosiejaune · 30/08/2020 14:10

YANBU for not wanting to have a different life from the one you have chosen.

But YABU because it's unrealistic. The older you get, the more likely it is the only women available will already have children. A lot of 30 year old women already have children, and the ones who don't will need to start soon if they are intending to have them.

So even if you find someone your age without children, she may want to get to that life stage faster than you do.

So what are you going to do, look for younger women instead? Which can be problematic for other reasons.

formerbabe · 30/08/2020 14:17

My dh has single mates who think the same. They're less fussy as they get older and many have changed their opinion.

I agree it's unusual to have met so many at 30...most women, especially in London in professional circles will not have children at 30.

Once you're older and in your forties + then you may need to accept that most people will have a past and responsibilities.

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 30/08/2020 14:23

What a shame the OP never came back!

I guess this was a wind up then.

FunTimes2020 · 30/08/2020 14:35

Its odd deciding to post on this forum. Date who you like, a bunch of strangers don't care Hmm

Evelyn92 · 30/08/2020 14:37

I'm 28 and a single mum of a 6 year old and 20 month old. Nobody has ever had a problem with me being a mum, or at least they haven't told me of they have! In my circle the majority of my guy friends (age 25-32) would happily date single mums and have done. I'm from a working class area and lots of people have children young, though. I was pregnant with my daughter at 21. I don't know if this makes a difference?

Evelyn92 · 30/08/2020 14:38

If*

pinkgrapes2 · 30/08/2020 14:42

Not unreasonable in the slightest. Have not read all the replies but I don't think anyone could possibly say YABU. I don't have my own children yet and if I was single, I would absolutely not date a man who already had children, similar reasons to yours.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 30/08/2020 14:45

I wouldn't date you because you're labouring under the delusion that that ^ is how 'always' and 'a lot' are spelt.

Grin

I was thinking I’d have written him off for those things too! I fell for my DP before I even met him because he used the right “your/you’re” in his first message to me. Low bar I know Grin

Life’s rich tapestry indeed.