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To be utterly disgusted by "DDLG"?

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BumbleBeeeeeee · 26/08/2020 20:13

On a Facebook mum group, someone started a thread about kinks. No problem with kinky things whatsoever, do whatever you want in your own home. But someone mentioned the acronym DDLG which was explained to mean "daddy dom/little girl". Ie female/"sub" pretending to be a child in the bedroom. Talk of sticker books and colouring in and pretending to be a certain age, more often than not toddler/preschool age.
That mothers can do this and happily have kids with men who want to fuck them while they're pretending to be children is absolutely vile and shocking.
It cant just be me?!

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PhilSwagielka · 30/08/2020 11:19

[quote Cadent]@Sarahlou63

What are you going to do - invade bedrooms across the country and demand people have vanilla sex?? What about people who enjoy pony or puppy play? Ban them from owning animals?

If pony/puppy play is what I think it is, then that’s vile and surely illegal.[/quote]
It's not bestiality. It's people pretending to be puppies or ponies. Wearing masks and such.

Sarahlou63 · 30/08/2020 11:25

This thread reminds me of the immortal words of Victoria Wood;

"Beat me on the bottom with a Woman's Weekly"...

TheChampagneGalop · 30/08/2020 12:23

twitter.com/terfalicious/status/1299863533182689280
Thread about how common it is for underage girls to be groomed and harassed by "doms" on social media. Many want a real little girl.

ZoeTurtle · 30/08/2020 13:00

TinaBennington So you DO have girls in the house? Fuck me that's terrifying. Sad

BubblyBarbara · 30/08/2020 14:46

@ZoeTurtle I find the whole thing disturbing but your line of thought strikes me as odd. Just because parents may have sexual kinks or quirks doesn’t mean that world is in any way connected to their parenting does it

Nosebogey · 30/08/2020 15:02

Just because parents may have sexual kinks or quirks doesn’t mean that world is in any way connected to their parenting does it

It certainly could do when their kink involves having sex with someone dressed like a child who calls them daddy. Hmm

PhilSwagielka · 30/08/2020 16:05

I'm involved in a certain fetish scene (NOT DD/lg or anything to do with paedophilia, before anyone asks, fuck no) and the community has had years of problems with men preying on teenage girls and trying to groom them into doing videos for them. A girl will post a video on social media just arsing around and she'll get all sorts of creepy men in the comments asking for details or asking her to do requests, and some go ahead and do it. Mods on the kink forum I frequent have banned pictures or videos of girls under 18, but some people just never learn. One guy is notorious for going to softball events and filming women there without their knowledge or consent.

@TheChampagneGalop I'm not even surprised, sadly. A lot of doms do not have boundaries, I think they just assume all women are secretly submissive. I've had some on Fetlife sending me messages which make it very clear they've not read my profile and just assume I'll make an exception for them.

TomPinch · 31/08/2020 04:42

@EvaHoffman

Is anybody talking about policing people's thoughts? I don't think so? And nobody is talking about policing consenting adults' bedrooms either.

There is a difference between saying something is wrong and policing it. People who act out child abuse are harming themselves psychologically and perpetuating and normalising abuse. I understand what the law is though and I understand we live in a free country. I'm talking about the need for a change of attitude. It's possible. Adults aren't powerless to say no to stuff.

You can't help the thoughts you have. But you are in charge of them and you can decide not to act on them.

Policing people's thoughts and bedrooms have both been advocated on this thread.

I agree with the rest of your post. It seems to me that eroticising trauma could have dangerous side effects.

Boomerwang · 31/08/2020 05:12

Is a crime being committed? Are actual children being hurt? Is anyone at all being violated? No? Leave them to it then.

it's human nature to explore the unthinkable and to find it attractive. Luckily, being as humans can (for the most part) suppress unnatural desires we don't have to learn about the enormous number of potential cavemen/women out there. If they find release legally and privately surely that's for the benefit of us all.

nosswith · 31/08/2020 07:41

I though the phenomenon of so-called adult babies was weird enough, but this goes beyond this.

EvaHoffman · 31/08/2020 07:42

boomerwang

But there is a cost to people acting out child abuse in private. It's harmful even if it's two consenting adults in their bedrooms.

  1. It's harmful to the people who are doing it. They will find temporary release from whatever is bothering them but long term it will be extremely harmful psychologically. It's really important for your psyche that your emotional connections are with people who accept you exactly as you are. As a grown woman rather than as a child
  2. The bedroom isn't another universe, it's still real life. It's private but not invisible. It's a room in a house, perhaps a house shared with children. And any time you go online to look at anyone else doing this, to read about it or chat about it you are adding to the traffic that normalises it so that it eventually becomes seen as 'natural' and 'fun'
longwayoff · 31/08/2020 08:41

Weirdo recruiting. Blecccch.

VestaTilley · 31/08/2020 10:27

It’s not just you. I think it’s awful. Kink is infiltrating the Pride movement, and I’m afraid they’re just a few steps short of lobbying for greater acceptance. Then it’ll become a campaign to lower the age of consent. Then it’ll start to be about normalising paedophilia. This is what abusers do.

There are too many people about now who have been brought up exposed to hard core porn (and, tragically, abuse) and think their sexual “tastes” are normal and should be destigmatised. Groups like Stonewall are already heading this way, pushing for stuff to be taught in schools that isn’t acceptable or appropriate for children.

Some people rightly need therapy - we do not have to validate their perverted practices. The Govt need to get a grip of online child abuse, for a start.

Sarahlou63 · 31/08/2020 11:04

@EvaHoffman

boomerwang

But there is a cost to people acting out child abuse in private. It's harmful even if it's two consenting adults in their bedrooms.

  1. It's harmful to the people who are doing it. They will find temporary release from whatever is bothering them but long term it will be extremely harmful psychologically. It's really important for your psyche that your emotional connections are with people who accept you exactly as you are. As a grown woman rather than as a child
  2. The bedroom isn't another universe, it's still real life. It's private but not invisible. It's a room in a house, perhaps a house shared with children. And any time you go online to look at anyone else doing this, to read about it or chat about it you are adding to the traffic that normalises it so that it eventually becomes seen as 'natural' and 'fun'
Re point 1. Where is your scientific, independent evidence for this comment?
Themadcatparade · 31/08/2020 11:38

That talk is one step closer to normalising peadophilia it’s a fucking joke.

You YANBU, I’d be running a mile if a man made suggestions towards that ‘fetish’. Having sexual interests for children or childlike play is not okay.

EvaHoffman · 31/08/2020 12:59

sarahlou63

You're not sure if it's important for people to form emotional connections with people who accept them for who they are? Eg. For a man to desire his adult partner as an adult rather than as a child? You'd like evidence of that ? Erm ok.

Sunshineandsparkle · 31/08/2020 13:11

That is absolutely gross.

bakereld · 31/08/2020 13:17

DDLG is huge. Search 'Belle Delphine' - she is a UK cosplayer into DDLG currently making millions of £ from men. She dresses up as a young girl in most of her cosplays, it's vile that grown men like her.

Sarahlou63 · 31/08/2020 13:48

@EvaHoffman

sarahlou63

You're not sure if it's important for people to form emotional connections with people who accept them for who they are? Eg. For a man to desire his adult partner as an adult rather than as a child? You'd like evidence of that ? Erm ok.

No, I'd like you to back up your claim that;

"1. It's harmful to the people who are doing it. They will find temporary release from whatever is bothering them but long term it will be extremely harmful psychologically. It's really important for your psyche that your emotional connections are with people who accept you exactly as you are. As a grown woman rather than as a child."

You are stating a fact, please either back it up with evidence or confirm that this is your opinion rather than truth.

ZoeTurtle · 03/09/2020 08:46

BubblyBarbara I find your train of thought much odder! Are you really not disturbed that a grown man who likes fucking someone acting as a little girl has private access to actual little girls? The poster mentioned her child has additional needs which is even more terrifying.

Pieinthesky11 · 03/09/2020 13:34

Grim

Wellyouknow · 18/11/2020 19:08

Aha, the funny thing is ‘Little space is a whole different story, yes ddlg is a kink and it is men and women role playing as children with a Dom of some sort, it’s two consenting adult but that’s not the point, ‘little space’ is a totally non sexual coping mechanism where a ‘little’ regresses to a younger age with or without a caregiver who looks after them and helps them during this state, it is completely non sexual and is a coping mechanism for trauma, usually childhood trauma where they lost their childhood or it was unpleasant its an opportunity to try get some of that back, not some gross pedophile like sexual act

Starrycorn · 27/05/2024 19:05

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Mum2jenny · 27/05/2024 21:35

Very very old thread, not worth even looking at.

@Starrycorn pls start your own thread and not comment on one from 2020.

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