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AIBU?

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DH has checked out of family life due to his mental health

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99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 21:40

Name changed for this. I don’t know what to do anymore. I basically feel like I’m a single parent.

DH suffers with depression, panic disorder and generalised anxiety disorder, he’s been diagnosed within the last year but I think I have known for a while that there were some mental health issues. He’s never been massively hands on as a dad, and in the past has blamed it on his demanding job, which saw him out of the house for most of the day. But he would do things with the kids when he could, like take them to their hobbies, to the cinema, do some school and nursery runs, and during lockdown he did his fair share of home-schooling etc.

But in the past couple of months it’s got to the point where he cannot even be in the same room as them. (They are aged 1, 3, 6 and 8). He says the kids’ noise exacerbates his mental health conditions. I try to keep them as quiet as possible as I understand the noise is a particular trigger for him and as you can imagine at those ages the kids have their moments, though I would also say the older three do keep relatively quiet for long periods if told to. We also have a large enough house that he can escape to other parts of the house when it all gets too much for him. But what I’ve found is he will do that in the morning and then we won’t see him for the rest of the day. He usually comes back to spend time with me after they’re all asleep.

In the past week he’s also said he won’t be able to do the things he used to do anymore (examples above). He’s said that given his deteriorating mental health I’m expecting too much from him. For what it’s worth I rarely ask him to do anything anymore, everything he does is because he feels like it. And I do everything else including all the housework and trying to work a full time job (from home due to Covid). He won’t do any of the housework but will cook the occasional meal. I still can’t get my head around why he won’t do any housework as that has nothing to do with listening to the kids’ noise....let’s just say that when I bring things up I’m accused of being insensitive or uncaring and on a really bad day I’m blamed for giving him a panic attack.

I feel utterly miserable. Part of me feels like this isn’t the life I signed up for, and then I feel like a complete bitch for feeling that way, because it’s his mental health and although he’s getting regular treatment for it, it’s not working yet and he doesn’t seem to be able to cope with any aspect of family life. We never go anywhere as a family, we never play games with the kids together, he doesn’t even help with bedtimes and hasn’t read any of them a bedtime story in ages. He’s either sitting upstairs in the bedroom feeling depressed or anxious, or he’s just too tired from work. Are these just excuses? How will I ever know if he’s perfectly capable but very ill, or whether he’s just plain lazy?

On top of looking after four children I have to be constantly mindful of his conditions and do everything I can not to trigger a panic attack. Having a conversation with him about something I’m feeling upset about is impossible, there is almost no emotional support back, it’s all one way. It is exhausting and I’m forever walking on eggshells. Lord only knows how the kids feel - probably the same way.

Here’s the AIBU part.... I know this is a ridiculous question but at what point would you cut your losses and go your separate ways? AIBU for considering leaving someone who is clearly very ill? I am already basically a single mum and if I’m honest I feel so much relief when he’s not around. Obviously I love him and miss him at times but it’s one less person to look after and the kids are happier too. But I’m conscious I feel this way because of his deteriorating mental health. So I would feel like I’ve left him just because of a disability ...does that make me pure evil? I sometimes wonder how I’d feel if I had post-natal depression and he left me. But then I realise I’d still be expected to parent and look after my baby if I had PND....and he literally is saying he can’t do ANYTHING now, it’s like he’s got a get out of parenting free card which he now uses daily.

YABU - he’s ill and you need to be there for him even if he can’t contribute to family life anymore.
YANBU - you can’t be expected to do everything / he’s using his mental health as an excuse.

Any thoughts or comments would really help me right now...even if it’s to tell me I’m being an insensitive and uncaring bitch!! Thank you

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Barryisland · 14/08/2020 22:25

He needs to get headphones that cancel out the noise.
Then take himself to a room and do something to contribute to HIS family and HIS mental health. If he’s not looking after the children then he can do the ironing. Change the beds. Clean the bathroom. Old the washer. Etc. Anything which helps relieve the load on you. Meaningful occupation will do him good. ( alongside getting his meds sorted obv)

99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:26

@funnyonion1 I’m so sorry to hear you’re going through something similar. We can and will get through this!! I hope things improve for you very soon.

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99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:27

@Barryisland Thank you. What brilliant suggestions. I hope he thinks so too but I am naturally doubtful...

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PiataMaiNei · 14/08/2020 22:27

That's a good point. There are domestic tasks that can be done in quiet and away from the rest of the family. Why isn't he doing those?

99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:32

@Rainbowqueeen More fantastic suggestions - so helpful. Thank you. Yes I absolutely think he could be doing more to help, both himself and the rest of us. Like spending short bursts of time with one or more of the kids. Or taking on a bit more of the housework that I struggle to keep up with on my own. Laundry is the bain of my life these days!

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99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:35

@PiataMaiNei Honestly - it’s because I’m too afraid to suggest these things. I get accused of being uncaring and then it turns into an argument because I explain how I struggle to see why he can’t do little bits and bobs to help ease the burden on me (even if those tasks have nothing to do with the kids) and then because I have caused an argument there is the risk of bringing on a panic attack. It sounds ridiculous I know...

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Porcupineinwaiting · 14/08/2020 22:35

One option could be a trial separation, say for 6 months. Maybe that'll give him the space to get better, and it might give you both the chance to think about whether you want a future together.

99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:38

Thank you @Porcupineinwaiting I think that is definitely on the cards. I was worried that suggesting such a thing would make me a terrible person. But I can see now that it’s necessary.

I would love to hear from the people who have voted YABU too! ...just so I can consider that point of view before taking any particular course of action

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Emeraldshamrock · 14/08/2020 22:40

It sounds really stressful the DC are so small how in heaven are you suppose to keep them quiet.
I don't know the answer if it was me I think I'd ask him to leave for a while even rent a small room, it is unfair to expect you to walk on eggshells with 4 small DC.
He is asking for the impossible from you.

PiataMaiNei · 14/08/2020 22:40

[quote 99WithTwoFlakes]@PiataMaiNei Honestly - it’s because I’m too afraid to suggest these things. I get accused of being uncaring and then it turns into an argument because I explain how I struggle to see why he can’t do little bits and bobs to help ease the burden on me (even if those tasks have nothing to do with the kids) and then because I have caused an argument there is the risk of bringing on a panic attack. It sounds ridiculous I know...[/quote]
It doesn't sound ridiculous at all. You were effectively punished for trying to get him to do any housework that might be doable with his limitations, so you've not done it again.

Emeraldshamrock · 14/08/2020 22:43

He may be ill but he's taking the piss too.

ChicCroissant · 14/08/2020 22:45

Let me guess, things get batted away with 'that's just the way I am'...

99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:45

Yes, come to think of it I genuinely feel like the mental health conditions have been a way for him to exert some control over me. He knows I will back down from anything for fear that I’ll bring on a panic attack. So he feels comfortable saying no to any request I make, however small. I’m really upset by all this and I think even before posting I realised it cannot continue.

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ShawshanksRedemption · 14/08/2020 22:45

I will add that I've had anxiety/depression and the exhaustion felt is real, it's not put on. At one point during a bad spell all I could do was get up, sit on the sofa, and then return to bed. I could only manage a mouthful of a sandwich at lunch - it was like my brain was shutting down to try and protect itself - it was truly one of the most awful experiences of my life and I remember feeling so frightened.

I would suggest giving short term "quick" goals, so if doing as @Barryisland suggests (which is a great post!) then ask him to just do one thing that day and say that that is it. Hopefully he won't feel overwhelmed and will eventually get the impetus to do more as he recovers.

He must, must, MUST take his meds regularly though.

Finally, you also need to put your own mental health first too. If you do feel you have reached your breaking point and it's becoming too much for you, for your children's sake, and your own, ask him to recover elsewhere (friends/family?). You cannot sacrifice your own well being in support of your husband's.

ImFree2doasiwant · 14/08/2020 22:45

I would (and did) leave. Similar scenario except my Stbx wouldn't seek ANY help. Same behaviours though, including sone abusive, which I put down to MH.....

It sounds like he's making excuses, but really, whether it's MH or being a lazy sod that's causing these behaviours, the end result is the same. You do it all and you all live in misery. I feel for you, it's truly shit.

LoveSummerNotIcecream · 14/08/2020 22:46

Split up. This is really damaging for your children. They’re having to stay quiet for hours on end so as not to upset him?! WTF. You need to be very careful that you’re not enabling his behaviour. Why would he want to get better if he can just check out if family life and have everyone else tried on eggshells around him. Just beware, if you do split up, he may threaten to harm himself, don’t fall for it. Do what’s best for you and the kids. Perhaps splitting up may give him the impetus to work on getting better and you might be able to have a good marriage again. But if not, you and the kids will be much happier not having to pander to him.

Lillygolightly · 14/08/2020 22:47

It’s obviously very sad for both of you that he is unwell and clearly struggling. It does seem from what you have said that he is doing SOME things to help himself. That being said I think the comment you made in regards to if you had PND that you’d still be expected to care for your children hits the nail on the head here. Clearly what he expects of himself is to go to work and bring home a wage, all other responsibility he has abdicated. He has abdicated these responsibilities because he can, because you will pick up the slack and because you let him (I’m not picking fault with you, I understand your just trying to care for him) so he does this safe in the knowledge that his kids are loved and looked after by you. You have to ask yourself what he would do if you weren’t there anymore...he would have to care for his kids, read to them, cook for them, put up with their noise because that’s what being a parent is. Yes he is unwell and that is very unfortunate BUT he is still a parent and he still has a duty of care and responsibility to his kids. His illness is not a get out of jail free card for doing his job as a Dad.

I’m not saying I would necessarily be expecting him to do everything he did before, I would indeed make allowances BUT I would expect him to do a few things because irrespective of his illness is damn unfair leaving you carrying everything and everyone all by yourself.

Addressing your thoughts about leaving, I don’t think your terrible or evil to consider this. My line in the sand would be this: happy to love and support him through this tough time in the hopes of better time ahead. I would be happy to do this so long as he is doing everything he can to help himself get well and to become and fully participating member of the family again. The moment that wasn’t happening and the moment I felt I was sacrificing my own mental health in order to support him with his, it would be over. You need to be well not only for you but for your 4 children, you can not afford a crisis in the vein of supporting him with his. You’d children need at least one healthy fully functioning adult to love and care for them and at the moment that is you, but that needs to be you 10/20 years from now too. That’s an awful lot of burden and responsibility for anybody to carry alone OP Flowers

99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:47

@ChicCroissant To be fair to him he’s never used such a god awful phrase! And I can tell he genuinely wants to get better, I mean he takes the time for and pays for therapy each week and I know he hated the medication but he took it for a long time. I would be 100% convinced that I need to leave him for good if I saw that he wasn’t even trying to get better...

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Linaya · 14/08/2020 22:48

This doesn't sound right OP. You say there's past abuse -(what kind, what happened?), that you're frightened of bringing things up. He may well be suffering MH problems, to which I am more than sympathetic, having suffered myself, but it seems like your DH is using this as a reason to leave anything and everything he doesn't feel like doing to you.

His MH problems are so severe he can't even be in the same room as his children or do some washing up, but he is capable of holding down a well-paid job? That seems odd, and rather convenient for him.

You must be totally exhausted and I'm sorry you're going through this.

Happymum12345 · 14/08/2020 22:50

My mental health has been absolutely dreadful over the past 6 months. I’ve just been diagnosed with PTSD. I know everyone is different & every mental health problem is different so it seems wrong to compare, but even though I’m not too well, I still try and be there for my children. My dh has been great & knows when it’s all too much & I have to take myself away. I long to be able to feel well again. It must be so hard for you. Your children are so young. I really hope that manage to work through this & that your dh feels better soon.

OuterSpaceGirl · 14/08/2020 22:50

Not much more to add but I’m going through similar to you.
Don’t feel guilty. Your and your dcs lives matter as much as his. Why should you all suffer?
That might make me sound harsh but I’ve reached a point where I have no more sympathy left and need to put me and the dc first now.

Virgo1958 · 14/08/2020 22:50

You are not being unreasonable at all. Think of your children first and do the best for them. Is there any talking therapy in your area where you could go together to discuss this family breakdown? Maybe GP a good place to start. I wish you well.

99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 22:52

Thank you @Lillygolightly for your incredibly thoughtful and comprehensive post. I think that is exactly what needs to be done. I really appreciate all your posts everyone. Thank you for taking the time to read and reply. It means a lot.

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GlassMarble · 14/08/2020 22:52

That’s no life for you but even more so it’s no life for the kids.

To be honest, whilst I’m not disputing his MH, I also think you being there allows him to “opt out” of life. And I think he’s milking it re housework especially. You leaving might be best thing for him and force him to “opt in” to life again.

For the same if your poor children - get him to leave or you leave. It’s the only way.

ShawshanksRedemption · 14/08/2020 22:53

Anxiety can make the sufferer very controlling I have to admit. They will fear that rising panic, then they will fear that fear. It's a horribly vicious circle.

However, if you feel you can't continue like this, you have every right to protect yourself and your kids from the impact of the illness.

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