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AIBU?

DH has checked out of family life due to his mental health

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99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 21:40

Name changed for this. I don’t know what to do anymore. I basically feel like I’m a single parent.

DH suffers with depression, panic disorder and generalised anxiety disorder, he’s been diagnosed within the last year but I think I have known for a while that there were some mental health issues. He’s never been massively hands on as a dad, and in the past has blamed it on his demanding job, which saw him out of the house for most of the day. But he would do things with the kids when he could, like take them to their hobbies, to the cinema, do some school and nursery runs, and during lockdown he did his fair share of home-schooling etc.

But in the past couple of months it’s got to the point where he cannot even be in the same room as them. (They are aged 1, 3, 6 and 8). He says the kids’ noise exacerbates his mental health conditions. I try to keep them as quiet as possible as I understand the noise is a particular trigger for him and as you can imagine at those ages the kids have their moments, though I would also say the older three do keep relatively quiet for long periods if told to. We also have a large enough house that he can escape to other parts of the house when it all gets too much for him. But what I’ve found is he will do that in the morning and then we won’t see him for the rest of the day. He usually comes back to spend time with me after they’re all asleep.

In the past week he’s also said he won’t be able to do the things he used to do anymore (examples above). He’s said that given his deteriorating mental health I’m expecting too much from him. For what it’s worth I rarely ask him to do anything anymore, everything he does is because he feels like it. And I do everything else including all the housework and trying to work a full time job (from home due to Covid). He won’t do any of the housework but will cook the occasional meal. I still can’t get my head around why he won’t do any housework as that has nothing to do with listening to the kids’ noise....let’s just say that when I bring things up I’m accused of being insensitive or uncaring and on a really bad day I’m blamed for giving him a panic attack.

I feel utterly miserable. Part of me feels like this isn’t the life I signed up for, and then I feel like a complete bitch for feeling that way, because it’s his mental health and although he’s getting regular treatment for it, it’s not working yet and he doesn’t seem to be able to cope with any aspect of family life. We never go anywhere as a family, we never play games with the kids together, he doesn’t even help with bedtimes and hasn’t read any of them a bedtime story in ages. He’s either sitting upstairs in the bedroom feeling depressed or anxious, or he’s just too tired from work. Are these just excuses? How will I ever know if he’s perfectly capable but very ill, or whether he’s just plain lazy?

On top of looking after four children I have to be constantly mindful of his conditions and do everything I can not to trigger a panic attack. Having a conversation with him about something I’m feeling upset about is impossible, there is almost no emotional support back, it’s all one way. It is exhausting and I’m forever walking on eggshells. Lord only knows how the kids feel - probably the same way.

Here’s the AIBU part.... I know this is a ridiculous question but at what point would you cut your losses and go your separate ways? AIBU for considering leaving someone who is clearly very ill? I am already basically a single mum and if I’m honest I feel so much relief when he’s not around. Obviously I love him and miss him at times but it’s one less person to look after and the kids are happier too. But I’m conscious I feel this way because of his deteriorating mental health. So I would feel like I’ve left him just because of a disability ...does that make me pure evil? I sometimes wonder how I’d feel if I had post-natal depression and he left me. But then I realise I’d still be expected to parent and look after my baby if I had PND....and he literally is saying he can’t do ANYTHING now, it’s like he’s got a get out of parenting free card which he now uses daily.

YABU - he’s ill and you need to be there for him even if he can’t contribute to family life anymore.
YANBU - you can’t be expected to do everything / he’s using his mental health as an excuse.

Any thoughts or comments would really help me right now...even if it’s to tell me I’m being an insensitive and uncaring bitch!! Thank you

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HotelRoomforOne · 22/08/2020 06:22

No no no. This is not acceptable OP. If being around the children is too Hard for him then give him an ultimatum:
He puts on noise cancelling headphones and listens to music or mental health podcasts ( there are heaps of good ones) while he does ALL the housework. All of it. While you deal with the children and your work.

He dies the cleaning, washing, ironing, cooking. The lot. Physical activity and accomplishments are a great way for him to manage his depression.

You are doing enough with 4 children and a job. Stop doing any more. Either he puts on his headphones and does everything house work related or you cut your losses and go it alone. He has no excuse. If he lived alone he would have to clean up after himself.

But he doesn't live alone. He has the benefit of living with you and your 4 children. So he can get over himself and do his part. He still wont have to engage with anyone, but he will be contributing. He must do this at least, and continue therapy and find an effective medication as well.

This is not fair on you OP.

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HotelRoomforOne · 22/08/2020 06:28

Sorry OP just read your update about divorce after posting.
You will be ok
STBXH hasn't given you much option has He?
All the very best to you

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cantarina · 22/08/2020 07:06

The only thing you can do about your STBXH's campaign against you is to ignore it. If you really have to address it, do it quick and shut it down - tinkly laugh and 'I'm not surprised he said that, but it's so not true'. Then change subject.

Sorry you find yourself in this situation OP.

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mathanxiety · 22/08/2020 07:12

So he has unleashed the Flying Monkeys.

They all use the same manual.

www.goodtherapy.org/blog/leaving-person-with-narcissism-here-comes-smear-campaign-0920174

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Theluggagerules · 22/08/2020 07:28

You've had some great advice here, just ignore him or practice your eye roll while saying "Oh is it my fault this week? It was something else to blame last week". You don't need to prove he's a selfish ass, you just need to be rid of him. People will see him for what he is

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Wallywobbles · 22/08/2020 07:33

Information is empowering. And will limit his power over you. 

If possible find some friends/contacts that divorced well. Ask them for lawyer recommendations. 

Get appointments with recommended lawyers. 2 reasons for this. It's important to find a lawyer you can work with. I got lucky with no 4. The other reason is if you've seen them he can't use them. 

Divorce is a long game. Do you and your lawyer a massive favour. While waiting for appointments get all your and his financial information together:

Tax returns

Bank accounts

Salary slips

Savings accounts

Investments 

Life insurance 

Pensions

Mortgages

Debts

Assets

Get the house valued

This will enable a lawyer to tell you what you might reasonably receive. 

Divorce for unreasonable behavior as cited in your op. 

50:50 childcare is normal but sounds unlikely.  There are sites like entitledto that will tell you what you might be entitled to from the state. There are also maintenance calculators. 

Write 2 lists in terms of kids, house, cars, maintenance etc:

What you'd like (copy to lawyer)

What you'd accept (private) 

Do not tell him what you are doing. Just get on with it quietly. The more of a head start you have the better of you will be.

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GlummyMcGlummerson · 22/08/2020 07:40

Why is it only ever men who get to do this - decide they family THEY chose to have is too hard so check out? Why do women never get to do this? And what if, haven forbid, something happened to you OP? What if you were hospitalised for a few weeks or if you died? Will he just leave them in the gutter as someone else's problem.

I know what it's like to love with someone with depression and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy but I do think there an element of "pulling the mental health card" when people (men) decide the one thing that will make them feel better is sitting around doing jack shit and being waited on hand and foot while someone else conveniently raises their kids

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Porcupineinwaiting · 22/08/2020 09:11

As I pointed out up thread @GlummyMcGlummerson, it's not just men.

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ithinkiveseenthisfilmbefore · 22/08/2020 09:54

No it's not just men. But it does seem to be overwhelmingly men who do this.

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justasking111 · 22/08/2020 10:46

He may come after papers while you are out so keep somewhere safe and change the locks. My friend regrets not doing this

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mathanxiety · 22/08/2020 10:49

Yes indeed, justasking.

OP - Take all important papers and leave them with a trusted and clued up family member. Not someone who can be flattered or browbeaten into handing over important stuff.

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justilou1 · 22/08/2020 11:10

I would email him and all his family members and advise them that your phone is broken. You can now be contacted by email. Set up an email folder and send everything directly into that. Block them all on your phone. This email will now be their way of contacting you and any abuse will then be usable for evidence later if necessary.

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Dinosauratemydaffodils · 22/08/2020 16:11

I just worry that he would make up something so bad to get the kids taken away from me or something. Has this happened to anyone?

Whilst I'm not divorced, I do have horrendous mental health (low points include trying to leave dc1 in Nicu because I thought he was a doll and suicide attempts) and at no point has anyone mentioned taking my children away from me. I've only been offered support. Given that he was happy to let you parent 24/7 and moved out, he'd be hard pushed to make a case for you being abusive.

However having worked with women fleeing abuse, document everything from now on. I'd also include copies of the messages your Mil (what a let down) sent your family members plus any sent to the kids if they have phones. Also depending what he does for living (IT?), make sure your recordings/evidence aren't somewhere he could access. Possibly backed up at a family members etc (not paranoid...just dealt with the aftermath of a lot of controlling men losing that control). I'd also move anything which he knows is super important to you assuming he has a key.

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SecretDoor · 22/08/2020 18:47

I feel furious on your behalf. After all you have done for him and the children. Has he suggested having them over fir a visit? If so send them with their nosiest toys!

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DeRigueurMortis · 22/08/2020 19:23

Well he's showing his true colours now isn't he.

In a way OP it's a good thing in the sense that it underlines the fact you've made the right decision to end the marriage.

Having MH issues isn't an excuse for being a nasty bastard who not only takes his family for granted but emotionally abuses them using his illness (that he refuses to get treatment for) as justification.

I think you're well rid.

Get a good solicitor and gather all your paperwork together then crack on with divorce proceedings as quickly as you can.

Life will be so much better for you and your children Thanks

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timeisnotaline · 23/08/2020 02:30

‘I’ve asked him to take medication so the whole family can stop tiptoeing around his moods and my children don’t have to live I careful quiet and so he could occasionally parent. I do it all. Absolutely everything. There is literally not one single thing he does. So not sure why he thinks I need medication, I definitely need a break, but not having him here feels like one tbh. I’m happier already without that selfish dictator.’

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justilou1 · 23/08/2020 07:59

His family will soon get weary of his antics and know exactly what you have been dealing with. Let them crack on. I'm serious about the email trail though. It's more admissible in court.

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SecretDoor · 23/08/2020 10:16

Write down everything you did (with times) on a typical recent day and what exDH did on the same day, and keep safe in case he starts other allegations.

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99WithTwoFlakes · 23/08/2020 10:33

Thank you all for the wonderful advice Smile Record keeping already, absolutely essential, I agree! @timeisnotaline is this something I wrote previously or something you think I should say and if so to whom.

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timeisnotaline · 23/08/2020 15:49

Sorry I mean it’s a calm response to any family members he’s poured his pathetic little woe is me story out to :)

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99WithTwoFlakes · 23/08/2020 16:14

Ah okay, thank you. Totally agree. Anyone who really cared about him would make damn sure he got proper treatment too. Oh well!

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ShebaShimmyShake · 23/08/2020 16:26

I just worry that he would make up something so bad to get the kids taken away from me or something.

The entire purpose of this was to get out of doing any parenting or taking on any family responsibility. Have no fear of this happening.

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99WithTwoFlakes · 23/08/2020 18:01

That’s so true @ShebaShimmyShake - he will not want sole custody at all.

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Pumpertrumper · 24/08/2020 01:56

The last thing I would worry about this man pursuing is sole custody.

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Bella2020 · 24/08/2020 02:17

It sounds to me like he wants to leave but doesn't want to be the one to instigate it.

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