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DH has checked out of family life due to his mental health

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99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 21:40

Name changed for this. I don’t know what to do anymore. I basically feel like I’m a single parent.

DH suffers with depression, panic disorder and generalised anxiety disorder, he’s been diagnosed within the last year but I think I have known for a while that there were some mental health issues. He’s never been massively hands on as a dad, and in the past has blamed it on his demanding job, which saw him out of the house for most of the day. But he would do things with the kids when he could, like take them to their hobbies, to the cinema, do some school and nursery runs, and during lockdown he did his fair share of home-schooling etc.

But in the past couple of months it’s got to the point where he cannot even be in the same room as them. (They are aged 1, 3, 6 and 8). He says the kids’ noise exacerbates his mental health conditions. I try to keep them as quiet as possible as I understand the noise is a particular trigger for him and as you can imagine at those ages the kids have their moments, though I would also say the older three do keep relatively quiet for long periods if told to. We also have a large enough house that he can escape to other parts of the house when it all gets too much for him. But what I’ve found is he will do that in the morning and then we won’t see him for the rest of the day. He usually comes back to spend time with me after they’re all asleep.

In the past week he’s also said he won’t be able to do the things he used to do anymore (examples above). He’s said that given his deteriorating mental health I’m expecting too much from him. For what it’s worth I rarely ask him to do anything anymore, everything he does is because he feels like it. And I do everything else including all the housework and trying to work a full time job (from home due to Covid). He won’t do any of the housework but will cook the occasional meal. I still can’t get my head around why he won’t do any housework as that has nothing to do with listening to the kids’ noise....let’s just say that when I bring things up I’m accused of being insensitive or uncaring and on a really bad day I’m blamed for giving him a panic attack.

I feel utterly miserable. Part of me feels like this isn’t the life I signed up for, and then I feel like a complete bitch for feeling that way, because it’s his mental health and although he’s getting regular treatment for it, it’s not working yet and he doesn’t seem to be able to cope with any aspect of family life. We never go anywhere as a family, we never play games with the kids together, he doesn’t even help with bedtimes and hasn’t read any of them a bedtime story in ages. He’s either sitting upstairs in the bedroom feeling depressed or anxious, or he’s just too tired from work. Are these just excuses? How will I ever know if he’s perfectly capable but very ill, or whether he’s just plain lazy?

On top of looking after four children I have to be constantly mindful of his conditions and do everything I can not to trigger a panic attack. Having a conversation with him about something I’m feeling upset about is impossible, there is almost no emotional support back, it’s all one way. It is exhausting and I’m forever walking on eggshells. Lord only knows how the kids feel - probably the same way.

Here’s the AIBU part.... I know this is a ridiculous question but at what point would you cut your losses and go your separate ways? AIBU for considering leaving someone who is clearly very ill? I am already basically a single mum and if I’m honest I feel so much relief when he’s not around. Obviously I love him and miss him at times but it’s one less person to look after and the kids are happier too. But I’m conscious I feel this way because of his deteriorating mental health. So I would feel like I’ve left him just because of a disability ...does that make me pure evil? I sometimes wonder how I’d feel if I had post-natal depression and he left me. But then I realise I’d still be expected to parent and look after my baby if I had PND....and he literally is saying he can’t do ANYTHING now, it’s like he’s got a get out of parenting free card which he now uses daily.

YABU - he’s ill and you need to be there for him even if he can’t contribute to family life anymore.
YANBU - you can’t be expected to do everything / he’s using his mental health as an excuse.

Any thoughts or comments would really help me right now...even if it’s to tell me I’m being an insensitive and uncaring bitch!! Thank you

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MotherofTerriers · 18/08/2020 16:35

Don't forget you don't have to let him move back. If he says he's changed, worked on himself etc etc he can take you out for dinner. He can come round and look after the children for a few hours while you go out and enjoy yourself.

Chaotic45 · 18/08/2020 21:41

@99WithTwoFlakes don't be hard on yourself, many of us identity with how this can happen. It's like the boiling frog analogy!

Can I suggest that you consider writing a list of all the negative stuff that has been happening. It may feel uncomfortable but I found this enormously helpful- once I started and gave myself permission to admit to everything that wasn't right I couldn't stop and it became a very long list. It really helped me focus. There's no need to add reasons, dwell on things or apportion blame and I fully accept that your DH is unwell so it might feel uncomfortable to list things- but it can be a very powerful thing to do.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 18/08/2020 22:38

Thank you. Just ashamed and embarrassed I let it continue for this long

Don’t be . I let go of that feeling , and my
Eldest was 12

He should be ashamed , not you

ArabellaScott · 18/08/2020 22:45

Flowers to you, OP. All the best.

99WithTwoFlakes · 18/08/2020 23:14

Thank you all. Yes the list sounds like a good idea. I know it’ll be uncomfortable and very long indeed. But you’re right, it will help me focus.

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BlackSwan · 18/08/2020 23:58

Nothing to be ashamed of - you’re a decent person trying to do the best for your family and especially your kids. It just goes against the grain to say my husband isn’t carrying his weight. Women are trained to martyr themselves like this - it’s very hard to say enough is enough.

justilou1 · 19/08/2020 01:17

Oh God, OP - Don't be embarrassed. You were COPING! Coping and existing and holding your head above water for as long as you can and BEING STRONG!!! AND - you did all of this for the right reasons!!! You should be proud!!! Now you have stopped doing that and you are going to live.

diggadoo · 19/08/2020 07:27

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olympicsrock · 20/08/2020 09:29

99 - I just wanted to let you know that I’ve been thinking of you and rooting for you. I’m sure you have done the right thing.
My situation also going better ( v similar situation) - DH has actually booked and had first therapy session within 2 weeks of the big chat and us being apart for a space apart break. He seems very willing to change and makes things better.

Do PM me if you think it might help xx

99WithTwoFlakes · 21/08/2020 00:14

Thank you so much all. @olympicsrock that’s great to hear. I’m so pleased for you that progress is being made. It’s all about the other person being willing. DH will stay with family for the foreseeable future, maybe weeks or maybe months. As long as it takes to get himself the help he needs! We are talking, we are both happy with the arrangement, and ultimately we love each other enough to give it one last shot. But not until he’s had lots and lots of therapy and tried different medication etc. Thanks for rooting for me!!

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99WithTwoFlakes · 21/08/2020 20:31

So, a bit of an update... STBXH has refused to take any medication, when gently asked if he plans to talk to the dr / get a specialist referral. Said he wont be taking ANY medication no matter what he’s prescribed as he thinks they all mess with his ability to work... not sure how he can say this having only tried one. But there we go. So basically he’s not coming back to live with me and the kids (which I’m sure he’s delighted about! Zero responsibility and all that...) Anyway I’ve spoken to a solicitor and will be commencing the divorce process on Monday. Hand holds please!! Sad

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katmarie · 21/08/2020 20:36

Hi OP, that's tough, it looks like he's made the decision to put himself before you all. You have got through the last few years though, you can get through what's coming now.

ArabellaScott · 21/08/2020 20:39

Flowers, OP, I'm really sorry. Take it a day at a time for the time being, be kind to yourself.

99WithTwoFlakes · 21/08/2020 20:46

Yes he has sort of decided to put himself first which he always has done but on this occasion he is not even choosing to help his own health which is a shame. Oh and sorry to drip feed but the thing that clinched it for me was that he has now decided to contact my family members (through my MIL) to say, if i want him to take medication then I also need to take medication because apparently I also have mental health problems Hmm - eg. I shout at him and cry sometimes so apparently that indicates I have anger issues and depression. I didn’t realise he was a GP all of a sudden (he’s not). I wouldn’t say I have anger issues as much as I have arsehole husband issues. But don’t worry I’ve read up on reactive abuse so I’m fully aware that this was coming. Any advice on how to handle this allegation?

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D4rwin · 21/08/2020 20:51

Flowers my ex husband was another one unwilling to engage with a recovery. You've got this, I do believe that. It's such a hard step you have taken to prioritise your children and your own needs with all that guilt the other adult has been laying on you to avoid responsibility? Health? Reality?. To get their own way anyway. But at some point they stopped seeing others as part of their responsibilty and started twisting things.

D4rwin · 21/08/2020 20:54

Oh god. Is it my ex?! He had a lot of (bollocks) to spread about me too. Proper eroding your support network type abuse. Wine Brew
I found my own stresses evaporated when he left. No meds needed. But a sort of post trauma from being around someone like that can be a thing. I'm sure you know yourself. Don't let him mess with your self perception

Pumpkinnose · 21/08/2020 21:10

I’m so sorry, I haven’t read all. But a lot resonated with me - I had a DH with mental health issues which massively impacted my life. We almost reached breaking point a few times. But never did I feel he was shirking they responsibility of being a father.

I can see you’ve had a huge amount of good advice here. But the best thing I did was to go see a therapist myself. My DH was seeing a psychotherapist and that made a huge, ultimately, life altering difference. But I needed a third party who didn’t judge me and was on my side, so to speak. She made me realise how incredibly difficult living with someone with mental health issues is. And I still hear her voice reminding me that when I have a wobble. I did some things I’m not proud of to cope but the space to talk to a therapist kept me sane.

Good luck. I don’t think I could have stayed in your position. Children don’t get quieter as they get older - they should be free to express themselves... I remember saying a lot of don’t do that it will upset Daddy... never again

Iamnotminterested · 21/08/2020 21:17

What a shit.
The very best of luck going forward.

Mary46 · 21/08/2020 21:41

Feel for you op. Hard going. Friend had something similar. He never finished tablets as didnt like side effects. But he didnt give them a chance either. He drank too which didnt help. Some people wont change. Im sure the tension in house was difficult.

99WithTwoFlakes · 21/08/2020 21:57

Thank you all. I have been having counselling for some time as it’s been incredibly difficult to live with. I have never felt like I’m mentally unstable or anything, but I’d say 80% of the time have felt like I could’ve reacted differently to a situation in order for things not to escalate. However I’m also conscious that he has made me doubt myself so often that I quite possibly handled things as well as anyone could and that he was just an abuser relying on eroding my self worth to the point where he could lead me to believe that I’m insane or something. Luckily my counsellor has been wonderful and has been doing what yours did @Pumpkinnose and making me realise that none of this is my fault despite what he may have people think. I guess if things get really nasty in the divorce and he starts making baseless allegations to try and hurt me I will have notes from therapy and also a load of WhatsApp conversations which show just how unreasonable he was about the kids/his Meds/treatment etc. I just worry that he would make up something so bad to get the kids taken away from me or something. Has this happened to anyone? He really is a nasty piece of work. Part of me now thinks this is not a mental health issue but just him being plain evil.

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justasking111 · 21/08/2020 22:42

@99WithTwoFlakes

Yes he has sort of decided to put himself first which he always has done but on this occasion he is not even choosing to help his own health which is a shame. Oh and sorry to drip feed but the thing that clinched it for me was that he has now decided to contact my family members (through my MIL) to say, if i want him to take medication then I also need to take medication because apparently I also have mental health problems Hmm - eg. I shout at him and cry sometimes so apparently that indicates I have anger issues and depression. I didn’t realise he was a GP all of a sudden (he’s not). I wouldn’t say I have anger issues as much as I have arsehole husband issues. But don’t worry I’ve read up on reactive abuse so I’m fully aware that this was coming. Any advice on how to handle this allegation?
Contact family members through MIL that is pure gaslighting I would ignore. Disappointed in MIL for being sucked in. Still his family are stuck with him now, how long before that starts to unravel, he may be on best behaviour but that will not last.
ArabellaScott · 21/08/2020 22:47

I would start with ignoring the allegation he's making about you, don't respond. Maybe now is the time to get down in writing all the things he's done, get witnesses when possible to corroborate, screenshots/copy text messages, dates when you can. Just so you have a record - that might help you from 'wobbling' as much as anything else.

I suppose you are building a case for the lawyer. Sorry, OP, it must be very hard.

TorkTorkBam · 21/08/2020 23:27

Men like him make shit up upon divorce all the time. People see through it easily, including social services, teachers and your friends. Don't worry about it.

99WithTwoFlakes · 22/08/2020 01:09

Thank you for all the reassurance. Sound advice. I have been noting everything with my counsellor and she assures me I can have the notes whenever I need them. I also have WhatsApp chats saved, screenshots taken, and even some voice recordings, and yes I absolutely will tell the solicitor everything too. I’m so glad people tend to see through this. It’s terrifying to think that someone can ruin your life by spreading a few lies. I always thought he was a very honest person. This has brought out a rather ugly side of him.

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Weenurse · 22/08/2020 01:35

Try not to use solicitor as a substitute counsellor. It is too expensive.
It does not change the divorce, only the child care agreement.
It also does not change financial agreement, unless he is financially abusive.
List property, pensions, accounts, any financial paperwork, assets and debts.
Find important documents and keep in a safe spot.
Get divorce paperwork started with solicitor.
Keep the other stuff in case he challenges things.
You may not need to use any of it if he does not challenge things.
Will he take the children for access visits at all?