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To not understand why Ex can't leave his GF for me and the children?

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calidreams · 08/08/2020 09:26

I left him, and he’s been with someone else for 18 months. I left him because he was lazy, but I see the change in him now and really want him back because we didn’t have other problems other than his laziness. I really love him, I regret I let him go and he says he loves me but can’t leave his girlfriend for me because they’ve talked about marriage, and he doesn’t want to “do what I did to him”, he says he’s not someone who leaves people, once he’s committed he’s committed.

We had a really heart to heart talk a few months back where we both cried, he said it’s my fault for leaving him and now I’ve put him in a awkward position where he can’t leave her even though he wants to be with me. He says he loves us both in different ways? He’s always talking about how hard it is to live away from the children, and all he wanted was for us to be a family. In my head I’m like, if that’s the case why is it so hard for you to leave this woman when you say you love me and you want us to be a family again, you cry over not living with the children?

I told him I know you don’t want to leave her because you love her. And he said yes that’s true, but it’s also because her ex treated her bad and left her, and he doesn’t want to do the same to her? He says there’s many reasons why he can’t leave.

I just can’t wrap my head around it, he’d rather not do what he’s crying about than to leave this woman. AIBU for thinking this way? Wouldn’t his children and us being a family more important than this woman? I’m sorry for the way it sounds, I know it’s ridiculous because I left him. But still he’s always crying about how hard it is to live without them and how he wished he could still live with us. Well, you have a choice, that’s just how I think? AIBU? I’m just so hurt and regret splitting up. I’m jealous of her now.

OP posts:
RyanBergarasTeeth · 09/08/2020 03:05

Jesus fucking christ you sound exactly like my dps ex. You havent recently moved house have you? Im the girlfriend in this situation honestly dont bother. My dps ex left him and now wants him back, refuses to mention me and at the moment due to moving she is spending every day with my dp acting like they are a couple again and talking none stop about dp to anyone who will listen. Its pathetic. You left him. He sounds like a shit telling you he loves you. But the poor girlfriend.

DianaT1969 · 09/08/2020 04:50

I'm being honest. He probably misses the children and that is why he cries. But he doesn't miss life with you. She is still fairly new. Perhaps he enjoys sex more with her. Maybe he likes their quiet home. She might be a lovely person and he feels lucky to have found her.
The bottom line is that you gave him the chance to come back. He didn't. You need to move on.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/08/2020 05:20

But because he’s stepped up, and is more hands on with the kids, that’s what made me think maybe he has changed? I don’t know maybe I’m just seeing things through rose tinted glasses.

You are. I guarantee if you beg him to come back he'll do even less than he did before. Just move on.

PeriPeriMenosauce · 09/08/2020 06:20

and I just can't wrap my head around why he won't leave her if he's that upset about not living with his children

So, he's obviously not that upset.

AliceinBunnyland · 09/08/2020 10:18

Yes OP you need to move on but it's the same as he did when you left him and he managed it. You left him for a reason as you say and that was right for you at the time sk don't regret anything.

QuizzlyBear · 09/08/2020 10:39

it's like he'd rather go through the pain of not living with his children than to hurt her. It's weird

Not really - going through pain yourself to avoid inflicting it on someone else means her loves his gf. Sorry, but it's practically the definition of love.

cakewench · 09/08/2020 10:58

Ok having seen your latest post.. he’s now “stepped up” and is less lazy, but it’s likely because he’s not a resident parent anymore. Dealing with the everyday mundanities of raising babies, he was there and proved exactly what he was. You weren’t incorrect in your assessment. Just remember what he was like when you needed him, because it’s highly unlikely that he has changed that much.

He isn’t interested, it doesn’t matter that he’s cried. It’s past time to move on from him, I’m sorry.

GinDrinker00 · 09/08/2020 11:00

Pretty simple, he doesn’t want to be with you otherwise he’d of left her by now.

AlternativePerspective · 09/08/2020 11:05

So the grass wasn’t greener after all... Hmm

TBH I think it’s possible to retain feelings for someone after they have been the one to instigate the split. You don’t miraculously fall out of love even if you do move on and fall in love with someone else.

But he has been clear. If he could be, he would have been with you but he’s now in love with someone else and doesn’t intend to ditch her when you click your fingers.

ShebaShimmyShake · 09/08/2020 11:54

@AlternativePerspective

So the grass wasn’t greener after all... Hmm

TBH I think it’s possible to retain feelings for someone after they have been the one to instigate the split. You don’t miraculously fall out of love even if you do move on and fall in love with someone else.

But he has been clear. If he could be, he would have been with you but he’s now in love with someone else and doesn’t intend to ditch her when you click your fingers.

OP didn't leave because she thought the grass was greener. She left because he was bone idle and she was going to be worn out like a tired old washing machine.
blurpityblurp · 09/08/2020 11:58

I just can't wrap my head around why he won't leave her

Because he loves her and doesn’t love you.

Sorry to be brutal, but you can’t make someone love you and want to be with you when they don’t.

blurpityblurp · 09/08/2020 12:01

Give him an ultimatum he either leaves her or your relationship ends and he has to go to court to get access to the kids.

Literally the most psychotic comment I’ve ever read here.

“If you want to date someone who isn’t interested in you, exploit the court system and seriously harm your children in order to blackmail them into ending their current relationship!”

sruitfalad · 09/08/2020 23:22

@blurpityblurp

Give him an ultimatum he either leaves her or your relationship ends and he has to go to court to get access to the kids.

Literally the most psychotic comment I’ve ever read here.

“If you want to date someone who isn’t interested in you, exploit the court system and seriously harm your children in order to blackmail them into ending their current relationship!”

Apparently @GrumpyHoonMain has a habit of making such remarks? Judging by her user name, she's Indian so unless it's a cultural thing where people do this and that's all she knows, her comments are beyond reprehensible.

northernstar0412 · 10/08/2020 12:59

Hi OP, I hope you're still reading. I do have some sympathy for you and can understand your feelings. It's quite a common scenario and I know of others who had a change of heart when their ex met someone else, so your feelings are not that strange or unusual.

However, just because you have feelings doesn't mean they are right.
In fact I often think their only function is to hurt and confuse us! The challenge is to recognise this and start to move forward.

I have an abusive ex I broke up with years ago - even though he begged me not to. (I realise now that he didn't love me, he just didn't want to be on his own.) At the time I was SO relieved to be out of it. But years later I was plagued with regrets and longing because we had a lot of good times too.

I think it's because I never met anyone else and was lonely. Because the ex is not there in your life anymore you conveniently forget the bad times and remember the good times.

BUT.... I know it would never work if we were to get back together. He knows it too - about a year ago he told me it was "too late", which upset me at the time but he is right.

What helped me to move forward was coming across a list I'd written when deciding whether to break up, of all the reasons to stay or go - and some ugly incidents I'd forgotten about. It reminded me of the REALITY - and that longing and wishing will not change someone.

How do you know your ex has changed? You are not living with him anymore to truly know - of course he loves seeing his kids now because he gets to be the Disney dad and doesn't have the reality of dealing with them day in, day out - feeding, sleepless nights, preparing their lunchboxes/evening meals, cleaning up after them, playing with them, reading them stories, disciplining them etc etc.

I do believe on the whole (though I do know of one or two exceptions) that people don't change much and were you to get a second chance, he would revert to type.

His current gf will at some point notice his laziness - if they are living together she will be the one picking up after him and doing the chores. Some women are willing to settle for this. It's not a life I could live and you know it's not a life you could live either. Please remember this.

Remember also that actions speak louder than words. He is telling you with his actions what his real intentions are - and those intentions are not in your favour - and that is no bad thing, you will come to see - you're just not "there" yet, but you will get there.

Oprah says we are all at where we're supposed to be. What you are going through now is an intense period of personal growth, when life is difficult and painful. When life is good we are not undergoing personal growth because we're not having to question anything or look deep inside ourselves to think about where we went wrong and how we can do better next time.

Personal growth feels like shit, but it is actually what is best for us. Change is ultimately for the best, although we often resist it.

It is OK still to love someone who is not right for you and who chooses not to be with you. The definition of love, it has been said, is to put the other person's needs and wishes before yours, even if his wish is not to be with you. Do you love him enough to honour that?

For your own peace of mind, try to distance yourself from him as much as you possibly can, given that he still sees his kids. Don't engage in conversations with him, don't hang around when he picks up the kids. The more you can disengage, the faster you will move on from him. It's like a "he-tox".

I have found that counselling really helps, so get yourself some counselling to put your recovery on fast forward. Onwards and upwards, OP, right?

Eeeeeeeok · 10/08/2020 17:44

If he wanted to be with you he would be.

calidreams · 10/08/2020 20:59

@northernstar0412 thank you so much for writing that. I needed to hear it. Yes I've thought about having counselling, I've thought about CBT therapy. I've suffered from depression in the past and still suffer from anxiety. I think I just have some issues I need to work out. But thank you, I loved reading that ❤️

OP posts:
Singalonggong · 10/08/2020 21:52

He showed you who he was and he wasn't there when you needed him. Because he plays a good Disney Dad changes nothing. Would you have been happy with him carrying on being bone idle? Because he would have. If he moved back in he'd likely revert to old patterns fairly quickly. What you see now isn't reality. Let him go and focus on you. Only have conversations about kid logistics. Therapy would really help. And a reset shag with someone else!

northernstar0412 · 10/08/2020 23:43

Calidreams, my pleasure. Do write a list of all the awful things he ever said and did - write down everything you can think of - and keep it handy to read when you feel yourself weakening. It will help. Flowers

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northernstar0412 · 11/08/2020 01:55

MumsyMum - how are your comments helpful or constructive?

notsodimwit · 11/08/2020 05:21

Mumsymum...that's a very unkind post! You are the ' silly woman' Angry
OP Flowers for you xx

NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 11/08/2020 06:51

Jesus you sound like a selfish twat, chucking him out then emotionally blackmailing him as soon as he moves on. Get over yourself YABU

Tooshytoshine · 11/08/2020 07:42

Oh mate... He is stringing you along and punishing you for dumping his sorry arse. He isn't a prize though.

You'll do better. And the greatest revenge is a life well lived. Nothing like a break up glow up for you to feel better about yourself and feel less about himFlowers

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