The South West is on course to be locked down next

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According to the data, the South West’s R number is the same as the North West at +1. Will local councils be trying to sort it before the government impose official stricter lockdown measures as in the NW?

Easy to get slots coming out of tesco Truro FYI

We live in Cornwall. I had to come back home yesterday from going shopping in our town as it was so busy with people. It's not the beaches that will cause the surge but the poor infrastructure down here. Our nearest supermarket is 30 min drive away (now 45mins with the traffic). The local shops are now inaccessible due to numbers of people in narrow lanes. I cant get food delivered for weeks as there are no slots. I'm counting the weeks until September!

Easy to get slots coming out of tesco Truro FYI
Sadly, I'm the other end of the county/duchy. Our delivery comes from Barnstaple. Poor sods, it's a 90 mile return trip.

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Easy to get slots coming out of tesco Truro FYI Sadly, I'm the other end of the county/duchy. Our delivery comes from Barnstaple. Poor sods, it's a 90 mile return trip.

Blimey. Barnstaple our nearest too!

And we're near polperro. Truro is an hour each way!

I’m in Cornwall and usually enjoy people coming to visit but it is completely rammed everywhere we go. I’ve not been to the shops yet but I live in a coastal town and could barely get my car past the hoards of people. Like other locals I avoid the beaches in the nice weather but I have seen them from afar and people are definitely not socially distancing properly. These people will then take the virus back to their own areas and it will be worse than ever, and there seems to be a lot more car accidents this year too.

why do people think it is safe on a beach when you still have to walk there and back.
As a local it is too dangerous.

I am really hating tourism everywhere it is killing the planet

And tourists mostly bring in money to a few businesses that are probably incomers anyway.

It's frightening. We have a fairly elderly local population too which have been relying on community enterprises to drop off groceries, books and the like. They are now too afraid to go out as the town is rammed and volunteers are having difficulties delivering with the increased congestion. We have had to stop our children going to out play on the beach or park as they are packed. Garden only (thankfully!) for my kids for the next few weeks.

All of the maps and stats I've now seen show that (for the most part) rural areas are now worse than urban. Northumberland worse than Newcastle City. Rutland quite high and it's very rural. Cumbria ditto. I think Derbyshire higher than Derby city. Manchester city and Leeds not as bad as surroundings. Some exceptions, obviously, like Leicester/shire.

A bit concerning?

I was working in Fowey this morning - don't think I've ever seen it so busy. People squeezed together on the pavements to allow cars to pass, no room to SD, very few masks being worn.
Restaurants, cafes, pasty places etc all rammed.
I'm awaiting the spike. 😫

I just don’t understand the ‘need to get away from it all’ mentality. You can’t outrun the pandemic and surely you’re putting yourself more at risk by going on holiday.

[quote SachaStark]@PhilCornwall1, hello!! We are neighbours! That is my local beach, too!

Although, I’ve been using the small and hidden beaches recently for paddle boarding and swimming off in the evenings.[/quote]
Hello!!

Was down there earlier (Saturday beers at Gylly Beach) and it was great. Everyone was completely sensible on the beach (not packed at all) and everyone in the queue for ice creams distanced from each other properly, there really isn't a problem around here at all, it feels safe.

Everyone was being really sensible, it was great to be out and about. It feels almost normal.

If I got to a beach to see that number of people on it (packed) I would leave.

We love the beach, I have a new paddleboard that I’m itching to try out, planned on going yesterday but was then warned about how packed the beaches were so stayed at home. It is frustrating that locals are too scared to use what’s on their doorsteps but we do need tourism. I drove through a small town near me today (popular due to a certain hill) and it was packed with people, never seen it that busy and it does worry me a little but it would be wrong of me to complain as last week we went camping in Devon, next week we are in Somerset. We like to visit places, we like to camp but we do avoid busy places and go to the smaller beaches (usually in the evening or early morning) to avoid people.

I'm in Somerset and going to be absolutely devastated if we get locked down next. PLEASE CAN WE GET A VACCINE. Can't keep living like this.

I’ve just come back from a week in Dorset. I was nervous about stopping at a service station on the M3.

But 99% of people were wearing masks and sanitising their hands in the way in. People were making such an effort. Same on the beaches, they were busy but SD was being maintained.

I don’t recognise the reports of tourists flouting rules.

We are booked to come down on the bank holiday weekend to stay local to my dad who has been shielding since February. He has just had a date for an op that was cancelled back in April, he is worried that the behaviour he is seeing is going to cause his op to be cancelled again. He is now back in full lockdown to ensure he can have the op. We are unlikely to see him but are still visiting, the place we are staying at has a private beach which will help.

PLEASE CAN WE GET A VACCINE

Honestly, so many people round the world are working on this. If it can be done it will be done. Just hang in there.

@Rainingopal I hear you.

I don’t know if you use the Zoe app, but I do. Some areas of Somerset are really low. 0.00 cases per million. It’s not as bad as people are making out.

I think a lot of the news reports are propaganda and control. I’m as scared of the virus as anyone else. But, I do find the results on the Zoe app reassure me.

Hang in there.

@SachaStark and @PhilCornwall1 I’m another near neighbour although Swanpool is closer by a whisker!

The West Country won't be locked down until MP 2nd home season is over, I suspect...as someone who lives in a seaside town in Somerset (though not one that's trendy or posh enough to attract the likes of MPs) I'm missing the relative peace and quiet of early lockdown....not that it lasted very long.

Rutland quite high and it's very rural

Rutland is
a) so small that even only a handful of cases will make it look like a hotspot
b) it has popular leisure areas, extensively used by multigenerational families from Leicester
c) population is dominated by the rural poor and the comfortable/affluent retired (may affect vulnerability?)
d) stats are usually out as it has no hospital, and the disaggregation if Rutland residents from Leicester and Peterborough stats can be late and arrive in clumps

So it's a difficult one to assess as a hotspot, or to use to illustrate a trend. I'd leave it to one side . Other examples much more likely to be representative.

Yes, I thought it was odd and agree with your reasoning.

Snowdonia is the same. Its been blissful without the flip flop brigade. But they’re back in droves and to be honest I'm resenting them. Good for the hospitality trade but my god take your fucking rubbish home with you. No excuses for leaving rubbish on any mountain.

Rubbish left anywhere literally blows my mind... Why the hell????

Why are so many getting stressed about packed beaches and bust streets? It is virtually impossible to catch coronavirus outdoors.

Relax and enjoy the sunshine.