The South West is on course to be locked down next

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According to the data, the South West’s R number is the same as the North West at +1. Will local councils be trying to sort it before the government impose official stricter lockdown measures as in the NW?

Struggling to understand why someone would want to sit on a crowded beach full stop let alone during a pandemic. I long for the sea but there is no way I would.go anywhere near tourist hotspots right now.

I doubt it, our actual numbers are incredibly low fortunately.

@FelicisNox

yawn

The whole country is facing a 2nd wave. We already know this yet here is ANOTHER Covid thread.

Next!

Thank you for your constructive comment!

If you feel unwelcome in Cornwall, just say you're from somewhere the other end of Cornwall. They will be none the wiser. You might even be invited to have a few Stellas in a car park somewhere.

If Newquay, where I live, is anything to go by, Cornwall tourist spots are definitely next. The town centre here is like Oxford Street, social distancing impossible, holidaymakers not even trying. I've banned my parents who are in Devon from visiting me as I fear for their health, that's how bad it is.

I don't know what going on. If you know whats been going on you've been misinformed

I wish we had a clicker counter in Devon and Cornwall, so many in then one in one out like they used to do in nightclubs years ago Many of us forgo the beaches at the best time of the year due to the hoards of tourists. Nice for businesses not so nice for those who need to go about their business the same as they do every day.

My son is off to Cornwall soon for a few days. I’m really worried now.
We live in the south west but we’re about five hours from Cornwall. It’s a huge area. Surely they’ll lockdown parts of it rather than the entire south west

I don't think it will be. Tory MPs holiday there and some of the infections will only be realised once the tourists are back home.

@AramintaLee yeah those people in hosp are all tourists and there were zero in for 3-4 weeks prior to the mass influx at start of July

Mrskingfisher - if the tourists are impeding your ability to 'go about your business', have you considered moving to a less desirable part of the country?

No, I know we have lots of visitors, most of whom are abiding by the rules. Our actual data shows the amount of people who have covid is still low in comparison to lots of places. There are some places which are very busy and expect there will be the odd outbreak in holiday parks, it's to be expected. Most people are sticking to the rules, I don't like the scare mongering that is going on. People are allowed to come here on holiday, they need a break and we rely on tourism. There are many pictures in the media of packed beaches/streets etc. I've not seen this but not denying it, most places I've been (apart from asda) have all been fine and I say this as someone who is very cautious. The media doesn't help

LakieLady, if only everyone was like you.
I am Cornish, welcome visitors generally...... I don't benefit financially from tourism.....but not now; it is irresponsible to visit now. People should stay close to home.
We can't enjoy our own area; too busy, too risky, too unpleasant.

[quote Emmie12345]@AramintaLee yeah those people in hosp are all tourists and there were zero in for 3-4 weeks prior to the mass influx at start of July[/quote]
How do u know they're all tourists in hosp. Apparently nobody with covid in hosp in nddh

Cornwall - population approx 570,00
current infection rate 3.3 per 100,00
Last recorded Coronavirus death - 2 July

crowded beaches and streets are nothing to get overly worried about

We visited North Devon the first week of the summer hols and it didn't seem as busy as this. The roads, inc the motorways all the down (from Wales) were nowhere near as busy as they usually are in May half term, never mind peak summer, nor were the local roads.

We were staying in a static on a well spaced and controlled caravan/camping park, which seemed busy but not full. And we supported several local businesses as the site had arranged them to come to the site on a rota to provide food if you wanted to purchase it. We ate out once in a quiet pub where we booked a table and enjoyed an open air wildlife park that was well organised too.

The only time I didn't feel as safe was when we walked the coastal path into the local village, as there was very little to no distancing of people on the narrow lanes. So we made it a short trip, kept to the areas where you could keep your distance, popped only into 2 of the larger shops where distancing was possible easily, and then retreated to the more open spaces again.

It felt AMAZING to get away. The owners of the food vans said they welcomed the tourists as it was their business, but I can agree that I'd feel very unhappy if I was a resident, seeing the lack of rule following from some.

@DrMadelineMaxwell

We visited North Devon the first week of the summer hols and it didn't seem as busy as this. The roads, inc the motorways all the down (from Wales) were nowhere near as busy as they usually are in May half term, never mind peak summer, nor were the local roads.

We were staying in a static on a well spaced and controlled caravan/camping park, which seemed busy but not full. And we supported several local businesses as the site had arranged them to come to the site on a rota to provide food if you wanted to purchase it. We ate out once in a quiet pub where we booked a table and enjoyed an open air wildlife park that was well organised too.

The only time I didn't feel as safe was when we walked the coastal path into the local village, as there was very little to no distancing of people on the narrow lanes. So we made it a short trip, kept to the areas where you could keep your distance, popped only into 2 of the larger shops where distancing was possible easily, and then retreated to the more open spaces again.

It felt AMAZING to get away. The owners of the food vans said they welcomed the tourists as it was their business, but I can agree that I'd feel very unhappy if I was a resident, seeing the lack of rule following from some.

We welcome people like you. Although it's got considerably more busy now than the first week of summer hols...

Didn’t see a single person wearing a face covering part from people working in shops.

I find this really hard to believe. Everywhere I have been, from naice MC Aldeburgh to Brixton, mask wearing inside shops has been very high. I have barely seen anyone not wearing a mask. Where are all these non maskers? Or are you trying to make a point about people not wearing them outside (when they don't need to)?

The likelyhood of catching it on a beach is miniscule. The photos are taken from terrible angles. I'd be more concerned about workplaces that can't do social distancing and schools going back.

In Brighton, the coastguards and police were patrolling the beaches. I have no doubt that they have been influential in keeping infection down. However, I am concerned where no handwashing and toilet facilities are available outside Brighton where they open. I think a lot of the other councils have been lazy. Handwashing is vital. And under the new regulations, the police do not have clarity.

@Bluewavescrashing

FFS!

We've booked a self catering cottage in Cornwall next week. Middle of nowhere but on the coast on a tiny rocky beach. It's what we've been looking forward to. Tesco delivery booked and we're jot interested in shops or restaurants while we're there, or busy beaches, just a change of scene and nice walks. If we can't go I'll cry. 2 foreign holidays cancelled this year already. 😢

Can I just say how selfish this is.

I lived in a small village in national park. It had 3 pubs, thriving shop and post office, ice cream/gift shop and a school with 100 children.

It had some second homes but as it was remote visitors used the pubs and shops. Rural and so mostly walkers etc

Sainsbury’s started delivering and suddenly the van would do 10 then 20 drops each Friday/Saturday

The shop closed and we lost the post office, then one of the pubs, then the gift shop went and now the school. The majority of homes are now holiday accommodation as families need facilities and schools. The thriving village that tourists lived is gone and they moan it is boring.

Please spend as much as you can with local businesses if you holiday on the uk and Tesco isn’t local. We need responsible tourists who contribute to the economy and don’t just strip it of resources and take from our area of beauty.

The South West relies quite heavily on tourism income, so won't get locked down until the end of the summer. The North West isn't as dependent on tourism, so can be locked down now. Economics has a part to play.

I'm just waiting until parts of London need more stringent measures. That'll be fun.

Tourist areas need you cash now. They rely on summer income to fund the winter. Ironically as furlough ends in November so does much of the tourist income until March with the exception of a quick burst at Christmas.

I am away and the hotel is at 40% of typical capacity- usually have to book months in advance. The hotel in London which is usually £250 a night was £100 at at 12% capacity, again usually hard to book on a Saturday night.

Well you can't simultaneously complain that local shops and supermarkets and village streets are heaving, and that the tesco van turns up. We're trying to stay out of everyone's way.

@Bluewavescrashing

Well you can't simultaneously complain that local shops and supermarkets and village streets are heaving, and that the tesco van turns up. We're trying to stay out of everyone's way.

I wasn’t complaining

Who pays for the roads you use to get there? The footpaths that you walk on? The beaches that you enjoy?

It all has a cost, it isn’t free and everyone who uses resources whether natural or man made needs to be responsible and contribute to the local economy.

Lots of holiday homes are owned by absentee landlords who don’t live in the community. They register for business rates which they are then exempt from and so they also contribute nothing/very little. Some got £10,000 in CV19 funding whilst many locals who are relying on tourist income got nothing (seasonal worker). Money needs to come into a community and stay in the community or villages die.

@venus22, it's not down to any noble motive, we just don't like crowded places!

We avoid going away in school holidays, too, because it gets so busy.