To leave Greater Manchester Lockdown to stay in self contained accommodation in another area.

[Bishybarnybee]

Rising numbers of cases in Greater Manchester and new restrictions - no mingling of households.

Holiday booked for Saturday - self contained accommodation in another part of England.

We've been meticulous about masks, handwashing etc.

Are we unreasonable to still go?

Did Eid take Matt Sillysocks and his chums by surprise?!
Tweets at 10am at night on what is effectively Christmas Eve - Jeeeeez this government really is acing it 🙈🙈🙈

Matt Hancock said travel is still allowed just now on the news.
I would go op.

It’s aimed at preventing meet ups for Eid ... but the government won’t say that as it sounds racist. This time next week the order will have been lifted.

The idea that we can control this virus in the long term is daft. Eradication would only be possible if the whole world was coordinated to do this and because people in some countries are having to choose between lockdown and starving this won’t happen so we have to learn to live with it. It is spreading more now in populations that were hit less hard earlier in the outbreak. Better it does that over summer. So go and enjoy your holiday. There is no rational basis for not going.

Go Op, have a great time.

The guidance does not forbid you going on holiday @Bishybarnybee
NEW GUIDANCE FOR THE NORTH WEST

It would be sensible for you to get a test though if you have any symptoms.

If it hasn't been said before, the reason for not meeting in homes is that it is far far harder to observe social distancing. People forget, they stand closer, they kiss and hug (potentially.)

In pubs etc there is social distancing in place with reduced numbers, hand sanitisers put out, and some kind of control over what's going on and a max of 6 people per table.

That s very different from a family having a gathering of maybe 30 people and all using the same room, loo, etc.

The reason for the change is that too many people have ignored the rules so far. As with all laws and rules, the law-abiding people suffer because of the minority who behave badly.

Anyone booking a holiday now has to accept it may be cancelled either because their home area or the destination may change the rules.

@Bishybarnybee

Why would you base your decisions on mumsnet? So strange. You could at least base it on government guidance - it's fine - or on a general concept of travel during a pandemic - not fine. But why base it on the opinions of randomers online?

It's not a legally binding referendum! Why does anybody put anything on AIBU? Because I found out about the local lockdown at 10pm tonight, I'm trying to work out what I think, and actually, the views of people living outside the lockdown area are of interest to me.

I'm pretty sure there hasn't been any guidance saying we can't travel. There's a lot of local anger that we can still go in pubs but not meet one other household - it's not consistent.

But I'm trying to work out what the right thing to do is. As with any other AIBU poll, I'll get a mixture of some random ignorance, some patronizing put downs and some thoughtful ideas I haven't thought of. Thank you for your own unique contribution to that.

The Brexit vote wasn't a legally binding referendum but we're still having to toe the line on that one. Haven't read the rest of the thread, but hopefully you've seen sense and cancelled your plans, because the rules clarified overnight say you shouldn't stay at someone else's house in another area.

Haven't read the rest of the thread, but hopefully you've seen sense and cancelled your plans, because the rules clarified overnight say you shouldn't stay at someone else's house in another area.

You probably should as it has already been clarified by the gov that going on holiday is ok.

but hopefully you've seen sense and cancelled your plans, because the rules clarified overnight say you shouldn't stay at someone else's house in another area.

@Longwhiskers14 Maybe you ought to READ THE RULES before posting and giving your 'advice' . I linked to them.

'Staying in someone's home' means WITH the family in it there are well.

It does NOT mean you are not allowed to stay in a holiday cottage as one family unit.

I’d go. You aren’t breaking rules and you haven’t broken rules.

We are supposed to follow rules. Implying rules that don’t exist is going to lead to chaos.

Look at Jet2 insisting customers cut short holidays and return from the Balearics and Canaries because they are cancelling flights.

They don’t actually have to do that. It’s not ‘the rules.’ It’s highly likely to be an economic decision.

Quite another matter to go on holiday if you’ve been in contact with somebody with Covid, or if you have symptoms. Or to go abroad when you might not get back.

Go, be sensible out and about, and enjoy your holiday.

TheGreatWave JinglingHellsBells My bad, I did misread them.

I agree with RichardMaarx. It's self contained accommodation - you aren't breaking lockdown, you are travelling in your own family group. Assuming you are planning to follow social distancing and aren't exhibiting symptoms, why wouldn't you go? The advice hasn't banned travel. As AHF1975 points out the general level of insanity so its okay to mix in pubs and restaurants but not mix household gatherings seems like that is entirely economically-driven advice rather than health advice. From a mental health perspective I would imagine that it is good to have something to look forward to and get some time away from work etc. From your post it doesn't sound like you are going to be going out massively or putting your towel/picnic mat close to another family on the beach.. If you are coming under any (societal) pressure to cancel, get everyone tested and once you have your negative results back, hop in the car..

Crankysaurus says it all really..

I came back this morning in the hope that you're going.

Please use the batshit and paranoia filters when reading this thread. You are clearly allowed to travel, and there is absolutely no moral imperative not to, despite the 'rules' that people are just making up out of thin air on this thread.

I am pretty risk averse, but I have absolutely no hesitation in telling you to go. Have a fantastic time!!

It’s only a don’t mingle indoors lockdown at the moment, why does that mean you can’t go away?

And what does ‘The rules don’t apply to me’ attitude even mean when it isn’t against the rules to go, misery loves company.

I'm getting fed up with the current mentality of "Fuck the safety regulations, we still need to live our lives by doing whatever the hell the we want,"

With no thought for the people who may not be able to live their lives if you pass covid onto them.

For heavens sake, go!

You have to wear masks in shops, and around others.
The people that own the accommodation have strict guidelines wrt cleaning.
I would go

The Brexit vote wasn't a legally binding referendum but we're still having to toe the line on that one

I know I asked for it by mentioning referenda, but LOL at the idea that I should "toe the line" on a narrow majority on a mumsnet AIBU poll.

Anyone voting under the impression that they have the final say in our holiday should be warned that this vote is purely advisory....

Go you are going to a self contained apartment not mixing in a Hotel, you have no covid symptoms, I do not see you as being of any greater risk compared to anyone else tbh.

In Ireland our numbers have been low and steady for weeks and now we are getting spikes, most seem to be connected to food processing plants but the scaremongers are calling for another lockdown, our restrictions haven't lifted as quickly as in England, we are still advised against all non essential overseas travel our pubs are not yet allowed to open. We have cancelled two foreign holidays we have not left our area since March we have stuck to all the rules. We are due to go on a staycation holiday next week to a self catering house, if they locked us down again I would still go, me and my family need a break for our own mental health I could not face the autumn and all that would bring without having this break people need to live otherwise what is the point!

LOL at the idea that I should "toe the line"

Sorry, that was a bit rude - I do appreciate people coming on to give their views and it has given me food for thought. I think the 50:50 split reflects the reason I posted in the first place - you can argue it either way.

We would be cycling during the day so minimal contact with local people except for buying food - and we are really careful about masks, handwashing and sanitiser.

Waiting to hear from our friends.

Are you familiar with the actual safety regulations that have been put in place in the area OP is talking about @Littlemeadow123? No one is saying fuck them.

Just go.

@flumposie

Just go.

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