To leave Greater Manchester Lockdown to stay in self contained accommodation in another area.

[Bishybarnybee]

Rising numbers of cases in Greater Manchester and new restrictions - no mingling of households.

Holiday booked for Saturday - self contained accommodation in another part of England.

We've been meticulous about masks, handwashing etc.

Are we unreasonable to still go?

That would be accommodation in the title, obvs.

I would.

It’s not a lockdown as such, we just shouldn’t be going into other peoples houses or having other people in ours.

Very unreasonable. What if every tenth person did that? All those cases of "but it's ok for us because...." can have a massive cumulative efffect.

I'm very close to these areas and I've been inside someone else's house in Greater Manchester today. We are going camping next week and wild horses couldn't stop from going.

Isn't it Eid tomorrow, that's going to stop a few get togethers isn't it. Pubs and restaurants will still be open won't they?

Spread it round and share then everyone can enjoy further restrictions just like us! Ffs

That would be irresponsible and inconsiderate.

Ok, that's interesting - for the record, our assumption is that we probably won't be going but just wanted to see what people think.

Gutted.

It’s ok and meet someone at a pub that’s full
But you can’t go to sisters house

At least you know where your family’s been

I'm appalled at some of the answers, very much in a "rules don't apply to me" mould. This thinking is one of the reasons the UK has far greater virus spread than other countries

I think we are all going to have to do the right thing, not the thing we want, for a bit longer.

You need to check the rules and if you are not breaking them you can go, if you are then you can't. Will you be just your household? If not then you are probably not doing as asked.

If it is allowed for you to go, when you are there, act as though you have it so you don't give it to anyone. I mean maybe don't eat out etc.

You can't go somewhere else on holiday, possibly taking the virus with you. Hope you've got insurance.

My parents were planning on coming up for a visit. My brother lives in Liverpool, I live in Manchester, they can go into his house but they can't go into mine and I can't go and visit him. If they do come we'll have to meet in a local park.

I can't get my head round it at all.

So people are advocating cancelling a holiday you could go on yesterday but not tomorrow?

@PhilSwagielka are pubs restaurants and shops closing ?

@bigchris Not that I know of. I think pubs etc. are staying open, we're just not allowed to have people in our houses.

“ BBC Newsnight correspondent Lewis Goodall said the Department of Health and Social Care had confirmed the restrictions will apply to all indoor settings - so it will mean that no two households should meet in places including pubs and restaurants.”

You would be socially distanced from others in a pub, but not from others you know,

Look at the infection rate. It is going back up - significantly. If restrictions in your area are being tightened then you should stay in that area. Leaving to take the virus elsewhere is supremely selfish and will just cause more restrictions across the country and further damage to the economy as well...

Ah here we go, the Covid police have appeared

Why are people saying the OP can't go on holiday? The new restrictions aren't a new lockdown, as far as I can tell there is nothing saying people can't leave home or travel, it is banning meetings of separate households from meeting indoors. If the OP is holidaying just with her own household then it would appear it isn't against the restrictions (and I cam very much a rule follower)

There is nothing in the restrictions to say you cant travel

I've been really careful to follow the advice - however, it makes no sense to me that household gatherings are banned but pubs and restaurants are still open. If this remains the case and you know that your own behaviour is 'low risk' (I.e avoiding gatherings and things like public transport if at all possible) and nothing else kicks off in the meantime, then I'd potentially consider still going.

It could happen to any area. It's a good thing, because the alternative is another national lockdown. So yes, that means cancelling holidays and not having family over if your area is affected.

They haven't mentioned travel so as far as I know we'd be within the guidelines. Not leaving the country, just going south west.

But for the record, I'm not selfish, I do think the rules apply to me and Idon't want to do anything irresponsible. So I'm trying to work out what the right thing to do is. And I suspect that is stay at home.

Yeh,if you cant meet your folks in your house just go to the pub