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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

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AccountAntsy · 29/07/2020 16:43

Sounds like you’re reading too much into it to me. I’m sure 2 small children is difficult (I wouldn’t know, I’m one of those lazy part time mothers with one) but presumably you had an inkling about that before you chose to have a second? She’s made a choice (or possibly not, secondary infertility is a thing) and you’ve made yours, it doesn’t all have to be a competition about how hard life is and who has it worse.

I probably do a lot more “stuff” with my DD than my friends with 2+ do with theirs but that’s often because I have to - she and I get bored otherwise and sometimes it’s harder to stay at home all day than it is to go on a day trip.

Hardbackwriter · 29/07/2020 16:47

She sounds a bit annoying with her 'suggestions' but I think it's a bit weird to put it down to her having one child rather then her generally being a bit interfering. It also sounds like you've been moaning quite a lot to her, which may be why she feels like it's appropriate to suggest possible solutions?

mosquitofeast · 29/07/2020 16:49

I foster, so have different numbers of children at different times. It is not as straightforward as "two is harder than one". It depends on the ages and the children. There are many times when two is much easier than one

malificent7 · 29/07/2020 16:50

This is why many of us don't want a seccond...we KNOW it will be tough.

Ace1185 · 29/07/2020 16:51

Each to their own. Everyone's family dynamics are different and we should get on with our own lifes and stop worrying/comparing/competing against others

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:51

No it's not about me not being happy with two. Or she only has one. It's because I feel she doesn't understand it's a hard patch right now. Being out all the time is hard work. Even a simple thing like walking to a park to meet her and her son is hard work. It's great for my eldest. My youngest is just not that sort of toddler yet. some at this age are alot more understanding of danger. He's just not ready. We've found he is hard work right now.

What seems really simple to her feels like she's not taking into account my son won't sit and eat a picnic at the river. He's boistrours and will spend it all running off and I end up flustered and unable to relax. Which is why I choose sensible activities for us like the nearest park or woods.

You are also not a part time mum. I think you've taken that personally.

My point is its hard to explain to her how much multi tasking I have to do right now and it's not enjoyable. No my second hasn't had the focus of my first. But that's the way it had to be. There's just been a few comments this year that make me feel she doesn't understand personally for me right now it's not an easy stage and staying home for the occasional day is ok for us.

She's out everyday popping allover. I can't do that on foot with the kids in all weather's. If I had a car I would be able to....

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Todaywewilldobetter · 29/07/2020 16:52

It's getting like The Four Yorkshiremen sketch on here! It's not a competition!

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:57

Not particularly been moaning. I spoke about the struggle on my day out. But equally she tells me things too as she struggles herself. She's witnessed me trying to keep a baby happy whilst trying to be sociable and take my eldest to meet them. She's used to seeing me with both kids.

Ofcourse all families are different. I tried my best to state that in my op. It's not a competition. But I feel like she thinks I stay home too much because I'm not popping to Aldi and to pick things up etc. But she has a car. I've just had a chat to her today and her advice was well meant I'm.sure.... she just made a couple of comments that felt judgey.

I'm just personally in a stage that's hard work. I don't think it will last forever.

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Mary46 · 29/07/2020 16:58

Harder with 2. While mine alot older my friend did say to me lately alot more running around with 2. It does get bit easier 1 at school 1 at home.

TooFrickinHot · 29/07/2020 17:00

I'm sure she doesn't fully understand what it's like to have 2, but then you don't fully understand the unique challenges that come with having one and stopping.. And the same could be said about single parent families, blended families, kids with ASD... The list goes on.

SauvignonBlanketyBlank · 29/07/2020 17:01

I have one and I know only too well how easy I have it which is why ds is an only Grin

TooFrickinHot · 29/07/2020 17:02

And it's as much to do with not having a car as the number of children..

ikus84 · 29/07/2020 17:08

Do you want to learn to drive OP? You've mentioned her having a car a few times.

AllesAusLiebe · 29/07/2020 17:10

Agreed. This is probably more to do with the freedom that having a car brings.

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 17:10

I do understand that having one comes with different challenges. You have to be there for them as a playmate and provide company too. You have to expose them to other children so they have company. She is a great mum too! I'm just meaning she's got to a calmer stage of parenting. She doesn't need to leave the house with a pushchair and all the toddlers stuff. She gets up and gets her son ready for school. I do that plus get my toddler ready. If he's in a foul mood or he's tired it's abit harder on those days. I walk back from school with a toddler (half an hour walk) so by the time we are home we just potter about, maybe go to a park. Then collect his sister and stuff.

I feel like she thinks I need to try harder based on her comments. But I'm very limited at the moment.

I sometimes want to tell her I love seeing her but I hate having to drag my toddler around whilst my eldest plays with hers. Sometimes it's nice. But often it's just draining for me and abit shit. But I hope when he's at school I'll be more outgoing again. But I can't say that.

It's very full on for me at the moment is all I meant. I meant I feel my friend thinks I could do more. But I feel she doesn't understand the dynamics of having two fairly young kids. She had two years of the toddler stage. I'm heading towards 5 with another 1-2 to go. So it's just been a longer stage for me with an extra kid.

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SRS29 · 29/07/2020 17:11

I think it's easier with 2! Initially hard work but as they get older they play together and always have someone to interact with which isn't always mum or dad. I think holidays are easier too, I have friends with 1 child who find it hard to 'entertain' them all the time...lockdown being a good example. There are 3.5 years between our 2 DD's, maybe that has helped.

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 17:12

Eventually I would like to yes. But I meant she would do less too if she couldn't drive and had a half an hour walk plus to get anywhere with two kids. If its raining she can still nip out to do bits. I have to get soaked. It's just different and I was sh she acknowledged that sometimes.

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clockoclock · 29/07/2020 17:13

Sounds like it's equally (if not more so) to do with not having a car, than having two kids.
Presumably you chose to have two kids and chose not to drive - she may not have chose not to have another child.
Not having another child is not always a choice and it's hard to entertain an only child, compared to two siblings who play with each other.
It maybe that in a few years you have it "easier" than you- you both could do with being more empathetic to each others situation.

Capr1 · 29/07/2020 17:13

Well it doesn’t really matter what she thinks tbh OP. Can I ask why you don’t drive though?

Notonthestairs · 29/07/2020 17:14

It is quite easy to misremember the toddler years as being easier than they were in reality. Why else would anyone do it again? Grin

I think it's easier to go out for the day with one, and easier to stay at home with more than one.

Stop second guessing yourself and let her comments go over your head.

Atadaddicted · 29/07/2020 17:15

A big factor seems to be... she drives, you don’t!

Sarahlou252 · 29/07/2020 17:16

My best friend has been shielding with two young children and is extremely anxious to begin leaving the house again, to the point where I have been really worried she is developing agoraphobic tendencies. And as her friend, yes I have been gently suggesting she goes for a little walk by the river, or comes and sits in my garden as she has begun to get upset that people's lives are slowly getting back to normal. I never thought she could mistake my my concern as criticism as I swan around easily with my one child.

BelleSausage · 29/07/2020 17:16

Does she have one child by choice? This is a different conversation if not.

User50000999788887876655 · 29/07/2020 17:18

My friend with 3 under 3 thinks I’m mad when I complain about my 2 I think my friends with only 1 have so much time and are so luck, the friends with just 1 kid think that their friends with no kids don’t get it ect ect ect someone always has it harder but being a mum is hard and great for everyone (most people) just accept she is coming from a good place...

SantaClaritaDiet · 29/07/2020 17:21

I agree with above, depends on the children, the gap, the parents...

You seem to be struggling, your friend should be more sensitive and understanding.

Comments like but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. Confused or I have to get soaked
it's about you struggling, not about everything else. Walking in the rain is a non-issue for others! So unless you are clear, you can't expect her to follow.