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AIBU?

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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

252 replies

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

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clairedelalune · 29/07/2020 21:54

It's obvious two are harder than one. I have one and couldn't cope with more. However, I don't think your friend is being totally thoughtless, it sounds to me like she has heard you talking about how hard you are finding things and is trying to help you find solutions (albeit without thinking through the logistics of them). I have a friend who has complained about her job every single time (for 95% of the conversation each time) I have spoken to her over the past 8 years (we speak weekly). I cracked after about 8 months and asked if she had considered looking for a new job (she still won't look for one, seems to prefer moaning, and it is very wearing). I probably sounded very thoughtless, but I am the type of person who can't sit moaning about a problem, I look for a solution. It sounds to me that this is what she is doing. Talk to her about the issues you have and why they are issues, maybe ask her for help in getting out and entertaining both children. And I echo what others have said about her driving and not thinking about logistics of getting from a to b via c.

UnaCorda · 29/07/2020 21:56

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives.

And you chose to have more, so you have less freedom.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

This could all have applied to you - presumably no-one forced you to have a second child.

Sorry if I seem unsympathetic, but as someone who has no children, not by choice, I find it very galling when people complain about things like this that were entirely their decision.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages.

You can't create a "perfect" family of two or more kids without sometimes having to do things which are boring or tiring.

ItWasNotOK · 29/07/2020 22:02

Everyone always wants everyone else to understand how hard their specific situation is.

People with no kids don't understand how hard it is with one. People without disabilities don't understand how hard living with one in. Mentally well people don't understand how hard life with depression is.

That's life. Tell her her suggestions are unworkable and get on with your life.

nestisflown · 29/07/2020 22:05

To be fair I found 2 easier than 1 because my second has a much calmer temperament. And also loves to play with the eldest so the only time I have to entertain them separately is when my eldest wants to go on an age restricted activity.

As others have said it really depends on the family dynamics. But sounds as though your dynamics means 2 is harder than when it was just 1 - in which case I have sympathy. But I’d have resented it if my friends felt that I had it easy with my eldest just because there was only one- my eldest did not sleep, cried and tantrumed constantly, bolted to the road at every opportunity, did not play independently or with other children without me until she was nearly 4. If someone had told me then I had it easy, I would have cried. I definitely have it easier now that she has grown out of her difficult stage, even though I had more children.

Rainbowb · 29/07/2020 22:14

I have one child which brings its own challenges. I feel like I have to constantly be my child’s playmate or have kids round for playdates quite often (and they’re not all delightful), just to ensure she is socialised. Lockdown has been particularly challenging and I have felt guilt at only having one. I find the “you have it easier, you only have one” comments irritating. I chose to have one which means I take all the benefits and challenges that comes with my decision. You have to take the benefits and challenges that come with choosing to have two. If your friend is an annoying know-it-all that’s her personality and she would probably be like that with ten children. Be careful of making generalisations based on one person.

2020wasShocking · 29/07/2020 22:16

@PleasePassTheCoffeeThanks

Well I had twins and I don’t drive either, do I win? 🙄
🤣 yes you do.

You also win fit best comment! Fab

2020wasShocking · 29/07/2020 22:16

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TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 29/07/2020 22:33

Yeah I agree 2 kids.just be harder than 1. Hence I have 1. It's lovely.

Lifeisgenerallyfun · 29/07/2020 22:40

Personally I think two must be so much easier, you are just at a different parenting stage.

Chocoholic12 · 29/07/2020 22:47

Are you regretting having 2 kids?! Sounds it. YABU. Jealous much.

QuiteCleanBandit2020 · 30/07/2020 07:32

@Dandelion34

I can't tell the GP I don't enjoy picnics.

I do go out. I do strap him in when he bolts. I'm not avoiding picnics until he's four. I just don't want to do it all the time. I don't want to drag two kids out most days to do those things.i am not cooped up all the time apart from lockdown limitations. I think you don't understand me. You wrote that like I never go out.

I meant see your GP regarding MH you knew that You sound very down, negative and blaming towards your friend. Yes small chidren are hard work but I found getting out and about really helped me.

Some not very nice "smug" comments on here about only having one which I doubt will help much.

Mary46 · 30/07/2020 09:03

Hi could she meet you a bit nearer the house? I have 2 one was a clingy toddler so not always the case of oh its handy with 2. Some days she was hard work to bring places. I think being able drive would be a bonus.

Iwalkinmyclothing · 30/07/2020 09:10

Well yeah, it is hard to understand someone else's situation when you haven't been in it. There was a woman I used to work with who was lovely, really lovely, but when she got a kitten she would talk to me at length about how she now understood what it was like to have a baby (I'd just come back from mat leave) and how demanding the kitten was and I would look at her and think, woman, it's a cat, you have no idea.

User50000999788887876655 · 30/07/2020 09:15

@TakemedowntoPotatoCity

Yeah I agree 2 kids.just be harder than 1. Hence I have 1. It's lovely.
That’s a really helpful comment. Thank you. I’m sure it has changed OPs life and she is on the way to have one of her kids adopted.
Cloudfrost · 30/07/2020 10:03

I think YABU. You actually sound judgemental and not your friend. OK your friend might be thoughtless, as all people who drive don't realise the difficulties of going places for non drivers, but she just tries yo be helpful with suggestions. And she is probably right in that you should go out more often. It sounds like your youngest has a lot of energy and not enough opportunities to use it up.

I have 3 kids (18m,3y,just turned 5 y), single mum, their dad usually can't be bothered to help, all my family leaves abroad, I don't drive. The 3y old is literally the worst. 2secs of inattention and he will be doing something dangerous he will destroy anything and everything, he will squeel, and screen and throw himself on the floor for literally anything. Absolutely exhausting he is. Friends often make suggestions about things to do, I follow suggestions if they might work, or I laugh and tell them exactly why their suggestions are not feasible. The problem is not your friend suggesting going to a park 30mins away on foot, the problem is you not communicating clearly. You need to say sorry that doesn't work for me due to xyz reason. Can we do this or that instead? No? OK well another time then. Communicate your wants and needs clearly. Stop getting overworked about ur friends suggestions, and thinking u are always being judged.. Don't avoid the problems by not going out, find solutions to solve the issues with your youngest.

You will find the more u go out with them the easier it gets

Snog · 30/07/2020 10:17

This is a friendship issue really not about how many kids you have.
Your friend should respect your decisions!
And you should feel confident in them. You don't have to agree on what is best.

If you feel bad listening to your friends judgey comments then let her know how you feel. And if spending time with her isn't enjoyable then spend less or zero time with her. Friends should build you up not rip you down!

CottonSock · 30/07/2020 10:19

My youngest has turned 4 recently. It's got much easier in the past few months and they play better together. I bet there will be times when a single child will be harder to entertain

FuckPolitenessSSDGM · 30/07/2020 18:06

It is definitely harder with two! Mine are the same ages as yours and they are a handful. It is difficult taking them both out together to certain places. I find wide open parks better where they can run, and will be safe if I need to take my eyes off of one of them to deal with the other for a minute. I have experienced the same response from some friends as I was the first from my group to have a second child. Even my own mother, who had 4 kids in 5.5 years, has forgotten what it's like and keeps telling me that I should be taking my children to the canals on a regular basis to see the ducks and wildlife, but all I see in that situation is me having to jump into a filthy canal to rescue one of my children! The worst offender in my group of friends for acting holier than thou, and was completely dismissive of me when I had my second child, is currently expecting her second and the bitch in me is waiting with a bucket of popcorn for it to unfold. She is very highly strung and struggles to cope with the most mundane aspects of having a single child so I know it will all come home to roost when number 2 is born.

It will get easier, try not to let other people's actions get you down. You seem like a good mum and your simpler days will come soon enough.

Angelil · 30/07/2020 18:09

This is why I’m choosing to have mine 4 years apart. Not even thinking of TTC until my first child (who’s 20mo now) is at least 3. I know it’s hard to have 2+ generally but it’s even harder I’m sure when they are close together. I’ve also chosen to continue working and send him to nursery, which makes things easier as well compared to being at home all the time.

itchaftershaving · 30/07/2020 18:13

I see where you are coming from but I can’t relate as I am a lone parent, have been since half way through my pregnancy so to me having the one child is a massive challenge. I think your friend means well, she genuinely wants you to do more, in my opinion. I wouldn’t take it personally. Maybe highlight to her about the the differences in age in the children and the things they can all do together

cherish123 · 30/07/2020 18:14

I guess it depends on a number of factors. My cousin had 4 and breezed through it. Others struggle with one or two. I found pre-school years very easy, primary school years quite easy but teens harder.

victorisnera · 30/07/2020 18:15

I knew exactly how hard it would be with more than 1, so I just had 1

turncornmeal · 30/07/2020 18:16

I have four children, however, there is a 6 year gap between the first and the second. The leap from two to three children was extremely challenging, made more difficult because we were living in a small maisonette without a garden. I do however recall finding it very demanding having an only child for 6 years as they have only you (aside from when they're at school and play dates etc) and require your full attention. As soon as my second child was born, although the workload increased, my eldest was enamoured with the new sibling and had someone other than his parents with whom to spend all of his energy and attention needs.

madcatladyforever · 30/07/2020 18:17

Yes I do know. This is why I chose to only have one child.

PasstheBucket89 · 30/07/2020 18:18

YANBU, OP ive irked a few in the past saying having 1 child is a p*#@ easy, a bit tongue in cheek of course but not fully. it is easier, but it will get easier OP.