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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

OP posts:
Nicknamegoeshere · 01/08/2020 08:22

I feel gutted for those women who only have one child due to a dreadful experience of labour and/or birth. It doesn't always have to be like that.
Personally speaking, my two hospital births were horrendous; the second was particularly traumatic both during and after. I felt pressured, scared, not listened to and completely undignified. My son became very ill due to an unecessary cascade of lnterventions.
I now have a new baby and chose a home birth from the get-go. I know of course for some women this might not be an option, but it can be for a lot. It was bloody brilliant - very minimal intervention and so empowering. It helped me to heal mentally regarding my previous two births. I honestly could not recommend it highly enough.

Mywifeandkids1 · 01/08/2020 08:25

@squeekums
You don’t even need to defend yourself. I personally wouldn’t want 1 child nor would I want to be one but luckily we aren’t all the same in this world! I also truly believe happy, healthy parents are much more important than siblings. I have a sibling and you can bet only one of us will take on any sort of caring or responsibility for our parents. I’ve also chose to stop at 2 as I personally wouldn’t cope with any more, everyone’s breaking point is different. Sounds like ops reached hers too though

squeekums · 01/08/2020 08:48

We all have problems and it's not a competition

Not a competition you say
Yet you claim mothers of only kids don't understand.....
That is making it a you v only mums

studychick81 · 01/08/2020 08:49

I totally agree and have felt the same previously when I had two under three. When I see people who are in the position I was in a few years ago, toddler and baby I breath a huge sigh of relief that's not me anymore.

It is definitely harder and she will never understand. I totally understand you point about it being such hard work to do anything, even getting out the house took us an age, going to the park, shop etc was really hard work. I could never pop anywhere. I had a friend with one child who had a great life, two days not working whilst her child was at Pre-school, time to go out, see friends and do whatever she wanted. But these weren't days 'off' apparently as she was cleaning and doing shopping etc. But she didn't seem to understand that I had to do those things too but always with two children in tow. I chose not to talk to her about it very much in the end, I would save talking about my struggles with Nct friends going through the same thing. If she makes suggestions like your friend does I would just smile and nod and change the subject it worked out well as she was my friend who I didn't talk about children's with which was actually really nice as it does get boring being all about the children.

It's a short lived time so just hang on and get through it. Before you know it they are both at school and you have your life back.

LaGoulueRevenue · 01/08/2020 08:53

She's one of those who thinks she has to make suggestions, give advice or find solutions instead of just actively listening when you're sounding off.
Everyone is so different, giving advice in situations like this nearly always ends in bad feeling as it feels like judgment, but she might feel she's expected to.
I wouldn't dwell on it.

squeekums · 01/08/2020 08:57

@Mywifeandkids1 thanks, its definitely one of the myths I hate about only parents, that we selfish. Its far from the truth. I know my coping levels and where i break and totally agree, happy parents much better than not. 10 years on and just the mere sound of a newborn cry makes me run for an exit lol. The first 3 years are a literal fog mostly.

I feel gutted for those women who only have one child due to a dreadful experience of labour and/or birth. It doesn't always have to be like that
Even though birth is one of the things that puts me off, was horrid for me, technically it was text book, I was home in 24 hours, dd born in 3 after I slept through early labour at home.
I have medical fears and phobias so just the whole setting and huge risk of major surgery is a main hell no, not risking it again. I was given an early discharge on advice of a counsellor in the hospital, she overrode the midwives call to keep me in as I was a first time mum. It was deemed my mental health was declining fast in hospital.

Dandelion34 · 01/08/2020 10:11

@squeekums

Read my title. Read my op!

some! Not all! But some. It was never a dig at parents having one child. You know full well it wasn't. Please go and argue elsewear. There is no need to spoil a post making accusations. @lemoncarafe was rude to me, so I stuck under for myself. I am happy to read different views. But I get fed up of rude people on Mumsnet bullying others and telling them to get a grip. Everyone is allowed to feel how they feel. If you don't like it. Don't come on here.

OP posts:
lemoncarafe · 01/08/2020 10:14

@Dandelion34
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Rude to you....get a grip.....

dandelion34 · 01/08/2020 10:22

@lemoncarafe

"Your post has just really irritated me op"

"I'd not want to be your friend because you clearly moan too much"

"I bet it's your friend that puts all the effort in and you put none in"

Then you sent me sarcastic flowers. Didn't like it because I stuck up for myself. So you came back with more. I will treat you how you treat me. Simple.

OP posts:
lemoncarafe · 01/08/2020 10:27

@Dandelion34
You're aware you're on AIBU, are you?
You asked a question.
Anyway, I'm out.
Actually, I'm going for a picnic.

disorganisedsecretsquirrel · 01/08/2020 10:29

Personally I found having two FAR Far easier than one.

I drive. I wouldn't of had any if I didn't. As no PT round here.

TomorrowAlways · 01/08/2020 10:42

@hopsalong

I think (as an only child) that what people with one child often don't understand is how hard it is for their child. My parents were young and healthy and simply didn't want more children so I don't mean this to apply to the many people who have struggled with secondary infertility. But I think there's something a bit me-me-me about people who could easily have more children and choose only to have one. All the only children that I know have found life extremely difficult once their parents started to need lots of help and/or died, leaving a single survivor or (my current situation) both died.
I think there shouldn't be a competition, parents of two DC have to deal with more exhaustion, bickering and juggling...parents of one DC have to deal with loneliness and boredom...

Why is it a competition to be the one suffering the hardest? What do you think she feels when her DC says they've got noone to play with, especially in this situation, there was 10 weeks of lockdown...maybe she is trying to be upbeat and enjoy her life and time with her child best she can?

To be honest it sounds like you are pissed off with her for making the best of her situation

TomorrowAlways · 01/08/2020 10:43

Sorry i didnt mean to reply to you hopsalong, it was meant for the OP

backseatcookers · 01/08/2020 11:21

You chose to have two kids and you've chosen not to drive yet, so she may feel frustrated when you moan about those two things. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just an observation.

And some people are wired to offer solutions / advice when sometimes someone just wants to hear "ugh that sounds shit, poor you." I have epilepsy and if I moan about something eg not being able to see a film I really want to coz of strobe lighting / pain after a seizure people often offer advice that isn't useful (and could be taken as them being judgy) but I know they don't mean anything bad and are just trying to help so I take it with good grace instead of taking it as criticism. I have a huge scar and I'd be a millionaire for every time a relative stranger told me about bio oil! But again, it's not meant nastily and there's no point letting it get to me.

So try not to take it as her judging you. As I said she might be a bit frustrated that you're complaining about a situation you've chosen to be in. Also if she is feeling as sensitive as you she may think "she's always going on about having two, so I think she thinks I have it easy when actually I struggle too. She must think I'm a lazy mum if I ever complain about stuff because I only have one." See how it can happen both ways?

You need to do what you've done on this thread and stand up for yourself. Be firm. If she suggests something that doesn't work for you, just say it doesn't work for you and suggest something else. If she can do it, great, if not, you'll do something with her another time. It doesn't need to be a massive deal. I think you're stressed with your two and are slightly taking that out on her in your mind.

Americanwoman · 01/08/2020 11:21

But unfortunately you’ve opened a can of worms OP by pitching mums of one against mums of two (maybe unintentionally?) which is a pretty contentious issue - of course us mums of one don’t want to be labelled selfish etc. I think it’s not really about that, but your friend has just been a bit tactless and pissed you off...

backseatcookers · 01/08/2020 11:25

@LaGoulueRevenue

She's one of those who thinks she has to make suggestions, give advice or find solutions instead of just actively listening when you're sounding off. Everyone is so different, giving advice in situations like this nearly always ends in bad feeling as it feels like judgment, but she might feel she's expected to. I wouldn't dwell on it.
You said what I meant far more succinctly than I did!
Sorryusernamealreadyexists · 01/08/2020 11:27

Agree. They don’t have to deal with the constant bickering and arguing which sometimes comes with having two

Cauterize · 01/08/2020 12:05

I have one child - there are some parts of life that are incredibly easy with one and some parts of life that are more difficult.

Sometimes I envy people with two children close together who play really nicely and then there are times that I spend with families with two or more and the fighting and tantrums make me think, thank fuck that isn't me!

Swings and roundabouts.

trixie1970 · 01/08/2020 22:07

I haven't read all the replies but I think you need to relax a bit. Whether you have ten kids and your friend has one, it's none of her business how you parent your children. I'm not saying tell her to mind her own business but to just r-e-l-a-x and be positive about your parenting skills; you do what you feel is right and let what she says you should and shouldn't do, go in one ear and out the other.

I had only one child (he's 21 now) but that was my choice. One of my sisters had four - of course having one is easier! That's a no-brainer but everyone is different and I think your "friend" has no right to tell you what you should do as a mother.

Be positive, be confident and enjoy your children and being a mother in your own way. Good luck Smile

Bananabread8 · 01/08/2020 22:16

@Sorryusernamealreadyexists

Agree. They don’t have to deal with the constant bickering and arguing which sometimes comes with having two
No child argues all the time though. When your children play together. The parent of an only child will be their play mate.
squeekums · 02/08/2020 03:22

[quote Dandelion34]@squeekums

Read my title. Read my op!

some! Not all! But some. It was never a dig at parents having one child. You know full well it wasn't. Please go and argue elsewear. There is no need to spoil a post making accusations. @lemoncarafe was rude to me, so I stuck under for myself. I am happy to read different views. But I get fed up of rude people on Mumsnet bullying others and telling them to get a grip. Everyone is allowed to feel how they feel. If you don't like it. Don't come on here.[/quote]
oh honey, be a big girl and own it, you started a thread that incites the competition AND havent got the response you wanted.
Your getting snippy cos we aint bowing down going "oh yes dear you have it sooo hard and your friend an evil witch"

YOU need to understand that being a parent is hard full stop, be that 1 kid or 10. Shit in some ways you sound jealous of her.....

IJumpedAboardAPirateShip · 02/08/2020 03:39

This too shall pass....

lemoncarafe · 02/08/2020 06:09

Applause @squeekums

Sorberret · 02/08/2020 09:51

I've got to say lemoncarafe and squeekums, you are the ones coming across as bitter right now

PablosHoney · 02/08/2020 09:57

Yeah, you are coming across as pretty unpleasant people, maybe pack it in now.